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06-05-2017 , 08:54 AM

#38551

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"The latest Gallup track on June 3 put Trump's job approval at a dismal 36% -- a single percentage point away from the lowest ebb of his time in the White House. (On March 28, Trump's job approval was at 35%.)

The Gallup numbers are no anomaly. A Quinnipiac University poll released in late May put Trump's job approval at 37%. A Monmouth poll conducted in mid-May put Trump's job approval at 39%."

06-05-2017 , 08:56 AM

#38552

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Originally Posted by simplicitus

COME ON COMEY CHAMELEON ONE TIME!

Now we just need to dodge witness tampering in all forms or a war with NK before Thursday.

06-05-2017 , 08:59 AM

#38553

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Originally Posted by Namath12

It begs the question of how

I'm with jon lovett when it comes to fighting this incorrect but pervasive use of "begs the question". Does it bother anyone else?

06-05-2017 , 09:01 AM

#38554

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No, just you. Everything bothers Lovett.

06-05-2017 , 09:03 AM

#38555

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Originally Posted by champstark

Those tweets are actually great for making sure the Muslim Ban is completely rejected by SCOTUS. He's truly an idiot.

How stupid could you be when they are trying to judge intent in the courts? Maybe the first time a man loses a SCOTUS case because he tweeted too much.

06-05-2017 , 09:05 AM

#38556

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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson

It's like he's losing a game of 0-dimensional chess.

Single line tic-tac-toe is an analogy that has come to mind.

Literally, the thought that goes into chess is the series of probable consequences to a given move. All I ever see with Trump is bold move followed by inevitable countermove that puts him in a weaker spot. Pretty soon, if not already, he's just running around from chack to check with a lone king, but no checkmate with a gop congress.

06-05-2017 , 09:06 AM

#38557

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Originally Posted by master3004

So good.

06-05-2017 , 09:09 AM

#38558

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Originally Posted by awval999

If GWB would have temporally banned all travel from SA nationals after 9/11 would that have passed the strict scrutiny test? That's what ACLU is arguing right?

How I understand it, the reason that the ban is being struck down is because since it appears to target certain Islamic countries without evidence of national security issues.

Hypo GWB ban would have passed. As Sally Yates noted, president has wide latitude, even with poor justifications, but religious animus is not a permissable basis.

It's a hard case to lose, but Trump can.

06-05-2017 , 09:12 AM

#38559

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Originally Posted by King_of_NYC

If he is, it's not intentional. Cheeto isn't that thought out

It doesn't matter if it's intentional when his petulance is so high that he's essentially a bot who will never deviate from this pattern on this road towards fascism and erosion of checks and balances

I doubt very many of history's worst strongmen thought they were engaging in a devious master plan

More like paranoia combined with their reflexive personality flaws

06-05-2017 , 09:12 AM

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Pretty sure he's just sensationalizing again. Bad Trump news gets drowned out, he thinks. So he creates controversy, throwing in a few jabs at the media, the courts, the Democrats, the UK, the Muslims (no wait, not the Muslims ((but then again, tweets don't matter)) (((oh **** me!)))) in order to cast doubt on institutions, make himself feel good, and piss off the left.

06-05-2017 , 09:14 AM

#38561

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Originally Posted by master3004

lol, awesome

06-05-2017 , 09:19 AM

#38562

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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days

Not trying to give Trump too much credit but it is possible he knows that the ban is gonna get shot down again.

No. He is very stupid and has no idea how our government (any of it) works.

People really really really need to stop giving him any credit for some sort of secret plan/agenda. Jesus ****ing christ.

06-05-2017 , 09:19 AM

#38563

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Originally Posted by Our House

Everybody always thinks that, throughout history, even with Hitler. At some point his intentions don't matter, though, when you go down this road, as long as there are enough citizens in the cult

06-05-2017 , 09:23 AM

#38564

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Originally Posted by PocketChads

Good article relating to this, essentially arguing we assign grand themes/vision to actions of buffoons that caused great damage and think of them as evil supervillains because our brains/historians need to assign structure/meaning to important events:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/0...democracy.html

06-05-2017 , 09:29 AM

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This is funny, in light of the current discussion about tweets not counting:

https://twitter.com/thehill/status/871700399660707840

06-05-2017 , 09:33 AM

#38566

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Quote:

Originally Posted by PocketChads

Everybody always thinks that, throughout history, even with Hitler. At some point his intentions don't matter, though, when you go down this road, as long as there are enough citizens in the cult

Trump doesn't even have to pass along orders to ignore the courts and refuse visas to Muslims. He certainly may try to do that, but even if he doesn't he's already giving a wink and a nod to every ahole in customs/state dept/whatever.

And Trump has certainly been asking about ways to force the courts. What does he say when someone suggests that Marines could block the justices and military courts could replace them? The Deep State will probably prevent that, but Trump would probably do it if he could and 25% of the country would cheer.

06-05-2017 , 09:34 AM

#38567

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Originally Posted by PocketChads

Everybody always thinks that, throughout history, even with Hitler. At some point his intentions don't matter, though, when you go down this road, as long as there are enough citizens in the cult

Aside from what I said in the one post you quoted, his intentions could also be:

1) Provoke a terrorist attack on US soil.
2) Increase the divide between white and X or Christianity and Y.
3) Base's red meat.
4) He's got $ riding on it somehow.

Prob many more.

06-05-2017 , 09:36 AM

#38568

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

You say scared as if there is any doubt at all this will happen. He will 100% do this. There is no doubt. They are itching to do this. He desperately wants to be a dictator. He loves all dictators and loathes everything about the political checks that previously operated in the US.

It is not hyperbole to say there is a non-zero chance that the US may not be a democracy in a few years. I don't think this is likely but it is a real possibility.

its not a democracy now.

06-05-2017 , 09:39 AM

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Trump's a huge gambler, right? He must be having a field day playing with all the resources at his fingertips. When he's finally stopped, withdrawal is gonna be a *****!