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Originally Posted by Sighsalot
these next 4 years will be a valuable lesson to the american people. elections matter, not voting matters, it all matters. The good thing about being an american is knowing that this too shall pass, and in 4 years his bull **** will be sent out the door with him.
Since the end of the Cold War and colonial rule in Africa, countries -- for instance, Ethiopia -- have vacillated between genuinely competitive multi-party elections in the early 1990s to backsliding into autocracy by the mid 2000s. The backsliding isn't always obvious and doesn't always involve goose-stepping down the street in uniform and the cops roughing up political opponents (although violent intimidation of political opponents does happen in Ethiopia). But on the merits, there's enough political freedom for political opponents to operate and vote counting is done transparently and fairly enough that you see results like
this where in 2010
the opposition Medrek party wins more than 30% of the popular vote but got 1 seat out of 547 in parliament due to the ruling party re-writing the rules on how the seats get awarded.
The cynics and thisisfine.jpg types will cry foul but the GOP is essentially crafting the same system where gerrymandering, voting restrictions and burdens will functionally suppress the popular will and where expressed, the results are designed not to reflect it, to empower certain voters over others. Consider how much time Trump is STILL dedicating to myth-making about voter fraud. Think about how many GOP controlled state legislatures are sitting on voter ID laws and other similar legislation and regularly trotting them out, and how much mind-share and consensus building exists on the right to mythologize voter fraud to justify this stuff. They mean it. They should be taken both seriously and literally.
Transparently, the GOP has abandoned outreach and growth as a party and have set to work on a project to entrench the political power of ~25% of the eligible electorate (turnout in 2016 was ~55% and Trump got 46% of the vote) as far as they can take it.
The GOP is obviously distracted this week but as the elections approach in 2018 and 2020, their efforts will be focused on both rewriting districts (gerrymandering), rewriting the rules (e.g., having blue state legislatures controlled by GOPers turn their electoral apportionment into Maine/Nebraska style systems where EVs are awarded by CD) and curtailing the voting rights of populations they perceive as opposition (voter IDs, limiting polling hours, aggressively pursuing drug crimes and then disenfranchising felons, other onerous voting restrictions).
And that's just the obvious, transparent stuff. The hand they will play completely face up. Who knows what Nixonian-or-worse type tactics Trump will engage in to use the state authority for propaganda and/or harassing his opponents.
t;ldr summary: your confidence this too will pass due to free and fair elections providing a bulwark against malfeasance seems misplaced, GOP is absolutely going to work on that now.
We have agency to create a different outcome and this is not fate but I'm not convinced a confident attitude democratic norms will ensure voters' will is respected is the right play anymore.
Last edited by DVaut1; 01-31-2017 at 05:05 PM.