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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

06-03-2017 , 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Remember when Maher got fired for saying the suicide attackers on 9/11 weren't cowards?

I like most of his takes, but he just doesn't seem capable of understanding that's his knees are jerking about Islam. I think his ranting about whiny snowflakes or w/e is perfectly consistent and tolerable from his position as a comedian/pundit. Caveat though that I've seen maybe 10% of Real Time max.
He also said the cowards are the people that launch missiles from 2000 miles away. Good times. It's what makes his current Islam ranting so nonsensical.
06-03-2017 , 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Drudge knows he'll be in the 3rd or 4th group into the ovens under Bannon-rule.
Didn't Breitbart serve as the BS news source Drudge would link to, prob for big kickbacks, and then it kinda changed direction under Bannon? I'm 98% sure any criticism by Drudge is just personal, not pro Kushner. No one but Ivanka is pro Kushner.
06-03-2017 , 02:55 AM
I feel like 50% of the poly sci/modern history PhD dissertations over the next 30 years will be Trump-related.
06-03-2017 , 03:06 AM
Trump will forever be a blot on American history like a bad tramp stamp. Only question is whether true self respecting Americans can get rid of him in under a year.

Mueller has taken over the existing Manafort and Flynn investigations, including personnel in Ukraine. He's going to be running a 2nd, more elite FBI, with the sole job of investigating Trump.

Remember how Trump was going to visit the FBI to rally the troops? That's been cancelled for fear of his reception. Same with Iowa rally. The director of the FBI search is going badly. Now the administration cannot staff up not only because of its sheer incompetence, but also because no one will take a job.
06-03-2017 , 03:10 AM
Impeachment and removal in under a year would be pretty impressive.

A lame duck presidency where he can't get anything done and then utter annihilation in 2020 after severe losses in 2018 are maybe good enough to leave us with a shred of self-respect?
06-03-2017 , 03:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
p.s. And full disclosure I am a Maher fan but he's in the doghouse on my ****list right now. He's gone overboard with the Islamophobia and the PC-run-amok-on-campus and it's so stupid and transparent. He obviously was shook by the trump victory, as were most of us, and at some point while he was off-air in between seasons he found the outlet for this shookness to be blaming liberals for not being tough on terrorism and for running wild on campus with the PC. It's right-wing derp medicine he swallowed down to take the edge off. It's simple and comforting and it's why so many swallow the same, but I kinda expect more form a person in his position.
My dude, Mahr is just s refined version of FoldN's shtick. Turn him off and pick up a book or something. Trust me, he's garbage.
06-03-2017 , 03:12 AM
If we get rid of Trump within a year it'll really be like the evil Kirk in The Enemy Within.
06-03-2017 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
My dude, Mahr is just s refined version of FoldN's shtick. Turn him off and pick up a book or something. Trust me, he's garbage.
Mahr is one of the few people I know of who has put his money where his mouth is, and he's taunted Trump like a good American.
06-03-2017 , 03:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
My dude, Mahr is just s refined version of FoldN's shtick. Turn him off and pick up a book or something. Trust me, he's garbage.
lol wat

shats fired?
06-03-2017 , 03:29 AM
Meh, Bill Maher. He's as smug as he is out-of-touch, and despite calling himself a rational person he can veer off the road a bit. His politics are all over the place so I'd think that pretty much everyone would agree with him on something, myself included, so maybe that's his appeal.

And not that funny at all. I think he's in that dead spot between serious journalism and political comedy for me. Or he's just too much of an ahole to listen to.
06-03-2017 , 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Minirra
Meh, Bill Maher. He's as smug as he is out-of-touch, and despite calling himself a rational person he can veer off the road a bit. His politics are all over the place so I'd think that pretty much everyone would agree with him on something, myself included, so maybe that's his appeal.

And not that funny at all. I think he's in that dead spot between serious journalism and political comedy for me. Or he's just too much of an ahole to listen to.
That's exactly it. Even when I agree, I find him annoying to listen to.
06-03-2017 , 05:16 AM
Something that doesn't get talked about much is Trump's role in the LEAKS sideshow. What part of it is either his responsibility, or a manufactured con job?

We know several things:

1) Trump manufactured a tweet falsehood about Obama wiretapping him at Trump Tower and couldn't back it up since.

2) Trump spent at least a few weeks manufacturing stories with Nunes and others around him to try to explain the above falsehood.

3) Trump has a long history of leaking manufactured bull**** to various media outlets. Just ask John Miller.

4) A ****load of leaks have come out of the White House itself.

5) Non-classified details are not leaks.

Just like the whole Comey vs Trump situation and pretty much everything else related to Russia or the cover-up, it's a matter of weighing the credibility of Trump vs the credibility of the IC.
06-03-2017 , 05:34 AM
The better joke as a response to being invited to work in the fields would've been "Hey man, don't look at me, I'm a house cracker."

Same joke, but minus the visceral turnoff of the N-Word (and potential backlash) and plus a touch of self deprecation.
06-03-2017 , 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
idk what the courts will do but I'd defer to Tribe on almost any legal matter related to the Constitution. If you went to law school and took con law he probably wrote your textbook.
No, that's Chemerinsky.
06-03-2017 , 06:49 AM
Speaking of manufactured bs and WH credibility, someone on MSM said that the main issue in the scandal part of the Iran Contra scandal was Reagan's White House running a deception against Congress and the general public. It was so bad that the President came clean.

Well ****, if that's all it takes, this administration is now running a public deception all day long. Pretty much every sentence spoken. That's gotta account for something to Mueller. While lying isn't illegal, this is much worse than just a few probable obstruction charges that are actually impeachable crimes. The current level of provable deception makes a functional government and functional democracy impossible.
06-03-2017 , 06:53 AM
Also, the chances of Trump being a real billionaire are decreasing hourly. He's definitely rich, but also 1000% a con artist about everything he does.

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06-03-2017 , 07:17 AM
Who was it that said, "Things got so bad that Donald Trump has become a parody of Alec Baldwin"?
06-03-2017 , 07:22 AM
Trump is not going anywhere guys. 67 Senators would have to vote to convict to remove him. It's time to dig in and resist. He's there for at least four, possibly eight years. The Senate Republicans will NEVER remove him.
06-03-2017 , 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Trump is not going anywhere guys. 67 Senators would have to vote to convict to remove him. It's time to dig in and resist. He's there for at least four, possibly eight years. The Senate Republicans will NEVER remove him.
If he gets 8 years, he will be there until he dies and Republicans will hold all 3 branches of government until there's no country (or world) left.

Barring Trump somehow creating a big enough rift between himself and GOP of course. He might try to get rid of parties and look to own the whole gov't by himself with some close friends & relatives.
06-03-2017 , 07:31 AM
The chance of him creating and implementing fully functional concentration camps for "undesirables" here is 100x more than the chance of him ever being removed through impeachment. Republicans aren't functioning in that kind of system any more. They are functioning in a cronyist dictatorship, and in these kinds of environments self-preservation thrives.
06-03-2017 , 07:52 AM
If Trump grows powerful enough, he will look to do away with Republicans. Not just Republicans, but anybody standing in the way of his goals to have even more money and even more power. You know he's already dreaming about it now. Maybe not all at once, but if he starts clipping them off one by one at first to send a message to others to not **** with him...IDK...it's a matter of enough time I guess.
06-03-2017 , 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Impeachment and removal in under a year would be pretty impressive.

If this happened, we may get to maintain most of our standing in the world...as bad as it is that we allowed Trump at all, and how the world now knows we are always one election away from utter stupidity, if we get rid of him within a year then they may feel better given how quick we were able to get rid of the virus

It helps mitigate the downside risk when we take care of it so quickly
06-03-2017 , 07:57 AM
Believe me guys I would love to see him removed as much as anybody. It would be great. But it's just not realistic, especially not in a year.
06-03-2017 , 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27
If this happened, we may get to maintain most of our standing in the world...as bad as it is that we allowed Trump at all, and how the world now knows we are always one election away from utter stupidity, if we get rid of him within a year then they may feel better given how quick we were able to get rid of the virus

It helps mitigate the downside risk when we take care of it so quickly
Hopefully Mueller has been grilled about this over and over by Comey and other reputable people in respectable positions. And hopefully he realizes the urgency as much as these folks. Oh, and hopefully he stays legit.
06-03-2017 , 08:48 AM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Believe me guys I would love to see him removed as much as anybody. It would be great. But it's just not realistic, especially not in a year.
I'm seeing this as a big chess game of sorts, and its in the early stages still. But things have a way of escalating quickly. Will the king run around until he's cornered or will he see the writing on the wall?

Also a lot like a poker game where we're a bit perplexed at what Mueller may be holding. Middle pair is one thing, but he could be holding a monster as well. Dude's got a good poker face. Is the turn card coming Thursday? Anyway, I think a year is certainly plausible...and I think more likely than eight years.

      
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