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06-02-2017 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Putin needs to shut the **** up. Every time he opens his mouth to lie and cover up crimes, Trump learns. Then he uses it and GOP learns. Then they go on TV and deplorables learn. Then deplorables go around defending Putin, saying Russia has no effect on the US or its policies.
It really is amazing that the Reagan 80's fanbois that grew up TERRIFIED of the USSR now think Putin and Co. are our BFF's because Daddy says so.
06-02-2017 , 02:29 AM
You've got to see this thread...Santorum being roasted alive in it.



Pretty funny stuff.
06-02-2017 , 02:30 AM
The sun! Where do it go at night??
06-02-2017 , 02:31 AM
Mark Levin going all in on unamsking today, calling it the "scandal of the century." Expect to hear endless derp from fox and friends and then the president on down for the time being. Wouldn't at all be surprised to see more unmasking tweets in the morning.
06-02-2017 , 02:31 AM
Dude thinks dinosaurs existed 6,000 years ago. What did you expect?

Last edited by RV Life; 06-02-2017 at 02:32 AM. Reason: Sick Rantorum
06-02-2017 , 02:52 AM




U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A! U-S-A!
06-02-2017 , 03:13 AM
so I'll be that guy

To be fair to trump, we really didn't give a **** about climate change so the outrage over an agreement that's probably about worthless on that front anyway has gotta be totally ****ing with his mind.

Not that I mind, but boy is there some overlevel of outrage over a weak at best agreement.

I obv agree we really need to stop ****ing up the planet, but we needed to start that awhile ago. Trump's problem on this is simply he might be the end of the last chance at mitigating the carnage and lol us.
06-02-2017 , 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
The bluff will be enough to get them to back down. His unpredictability and unreasonableness will make him seem like the kind of person who would actually do it.
You're thinking at Trump's level. It would be foolish and patently illegal. I think the courts will likely kill his sanctuary city threats, even though they have some semi-plausible basis.
06-02-2017 , 03:35 AM
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Originally Posted by DudeImBetter
Can you elaborate on the flavor of insanity that lead you to this rabbit hole of ****?
Spring / summer 2016 was not good for me and I was just trying to take my mind off stuff. I had planned to catch up on the show and decided I might as well do so before it disappeared to some pay platform.
06-02-2017 , 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Elon Musk, Bob Iger and whoever the **** else think it's a good look to bail on Trump now!?! can seriously go **** themselves

That anyone falls for this **** is so ****ing demoralizing
Falls for what? They got put on big commisssions, thought they could do some good for their country or their company. See that the president isn't rational, say "smell you later."

What is complex here? Should they have just refused the initial appointment? I mean that's not unreasonable, but there could have been potential benefits to being a member (like being able to influence Trump on climate change).
06-02-2017 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
so I'll be that guy

To be fair to trump, we really didn't give a **** about climate change so the outrage over an agreement that's probably about worthless on that front anyway has gotta be totally ****ing with his mind.

Not that I mind, but boy is there some overlevel of outrage over a weak at best agreement.

I obv agree we really need to stop ****ing up the planet, but we needed to start that awhile ago. Trump's problem on this is simply he might be the end of the last chance at mitigating the carnage and lol us.
no **** sherlock the agreement could have been better. Why do you think they had to lock congregations of 190 something countries in a room for days for them to sign on something common.

You've got to realize there are some incentives for poor countries to delay the agreement. The longer they wait to sign on, the hotter the planet becomes, the more the situation becomes critical for everyone, the more money they can ask for. 100 billions was an absolut bargain. In 10 years, it will be hundred times that.

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06-02-2017 , 04:11 AM



https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...51796354269184
06-02-2017 , 04:42 AM
Berlin tabloid, "Earth to Trump: **** You!"

https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/statu...32722237853697

(Man, I don't think you can swear even in a foreign language in the newspapers here, def not the front page.)
06-02-2017 , 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Nope. I live in another one. I mean we ratified Paris but:

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A [conservative government] MP who chairs federal parliament's environment committee has the 'champagne on ice' for Donald Trump's expected decision to withdraw from the Paris climate agreement.

Mr Trump is scheduled to announce his position on Friday at 5am (AEST), with a number of media outlets quoting sources saying the US president will pull out of the 2015 deal.

NSW MP Craig Kelly, who is also chairman of a [conservative party] party committee on energy and the environment, wrote on his Facebook page: 'It's not confirmed yet but we have the champagne on ice.'

Environment Minister Josh Frydenberg said he worked closely with Mr Kelly, but the government was committed to the Paris agreement and meeting its 2030 target.

'The Turnbull government announced the ratification of the Paris agreement the day after Donald Trump was elected - it was a pretty significant statement,' Mr Frydenberg told Sky News on Thursday.
06-02-2017 , 05:04 AM
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Originally Posted by yeSpiff



https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...51796354269184
This is one of those scary Trump tweets I was talking about the other day that hasn't really haunted us...yet.
06-02-2017 , 05:08 AM
we had a big old row about coal here back in the 80s

the problem was that in order to dig up £90 worth of coal we had to spend £100, so the govt got rid of the entire (at the time, nationalised) industry over the course of about a decade. the upside was that the rest of the country stopped pouring money into a losing industry, the downside was that many rural communities - which had for generations relied on the mining industry for jobs - were completely shattered and to this day have not recovered

~no private firms entered the space left behind by the public sector withdrawal due to the aforementioned spend £100 to earn £90 problem

my question is this: even if drumpf strips away environmental regulations etc, can a sizable american coal industry exist without indefinite government handouts?
06-02-2017 , 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BABARtheELEPHANT
no **** sherlock the agreement could have been better. Why do you think they had to lock congregations of 190 something countries in a room for days for them to sign on something common.

You've got to realize there are some incentives for poor countries to delay the agreement. The longer they wait to sign on, the hotter the planet becomes, the more the situation becomes critical for everyone, the more money they can ask for. 100 billions was an absolut bargain. In 10 years, it will be hundred times that.
Is the aid the only enforceable part of the agreement?
06-02-2017 , 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by BOIDS
my question is this: even if drumpf strips away environmental regulations etc, can a sizable american coal industry exist without indefinite government handouts?
Though I'm sure Microbet will be along shortly to disagree, coal isn't subsidized directly here. The degree that coal exists in the future will depend on how long natural gas prices stay low and solar prices stay high.
06-02-2017 , 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by corvette24
I was born and raised in Ada. Been in this state for my entire 44 years on earth. I live in Norman and work in OKC now. Out state is a political embarrassment. I have been considering a move myself. Several blue states, Australia, Denmark, and Canada are among the current considerations.
I'd advise against Denmark. The cost-of-living is very high. The logistics of getting all the paperwork sorted out to legally move there as an American citizen would be a pain. From a social perspective, it's quite hard to integrate into the community. It seems that after a certain age, Danes just say "I have all the friends I need. No more talking to strangers." and then shut down socially.
06-02-2017 , 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by dlk9s
"I was elected to serve the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris."
06-02-2017 , 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by gingersnaps
the amount of butthurt in this thread is cracking me up
So you keep posting the same comment over and over again.
06-02-2017 , 06:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
@Adebisi: It's a more than fair price. Literally 25 cents per day. The people who have your mentality generally won't pay any amount more than zero. I'd be shocked if they could quintuple their subscriptions by charging $2 per month instead of $9. Charging the highest amount that the average person who's willing to pay will pay is a solid tactic.

Edit: There's also a large contingent of people like zikzak who are paying not so much for a product they use, but to support the creators of work they appreciate. So the options for these people are currently 9 dollars per month or no support. Imo anyone who had the impulse to buy WaPo as a show of support would not find < 30 cents per day prohibitively expensive.
Plus they always have all kinds of deals. Before I got it through prime I got an Apple Pay deal from the website that was like $1.99 for 6-8 weeks. It renewed at a higher price but I still think you could probably get wapo digital for $4.99 a month, at least I regularly saw that price out there. As someone who grew up with two to four physical newspaper subscriptions I read every day to becoming someone who didn't pay for any newspapers for years, the Washington post is certainly the one paper I feel offers guaranteed value.
06-02-2017 , 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I am paying for LA Times and WaPo online - literally just to try to support investigative journalism. That cannot be a sustainable business model.

And freaking LA Times has already pissed me off half a dozen times by making it nearly impossible for me to cancel the Sunday paper, which I just threw away every week, and felt psychic stress over. They basically said they would charge me more if I switched to online only - because I had some special deal for online + Sunday paper for 6 months. So I waited 6 months, called back, dude said the same thing. I said - then why are you offering online only right now on your website for cheaper than I am paying? Oh. Yeah ok we'll cancel your Sunday paper and give you that price.

Ugh - openly hostile to your customers is not a good business model either.
Newspapers physically pushing Sunday editions makes sense as that is when they have 80% of their ads and if people read it or not is meaningless to their ad rates. Newspapers have been the kings of epic fail when it comes to monetizing online content versus their print content.
06-02-2017 , 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by iron81
Though I'm sure Microbet will be along shortly to disagree, coal isn't subsidized directly here. The degree that coal exists in the future will depend on how long natural gas prices stay low and solar prices stay high.
It is subsidized in different forms but compared to other industries not so much:

https://thinkprogress.org/top-three-...t-a11e3f39d48b
06-02-2017 , 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by gingersnaps
the amount of butthurt in this thread is cracking me up

Raping the environment isn't Schindler's list funny, but it's pretty funny.

      
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