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06-01-2017 , 11:03 PM

#37901

synth_floyd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by will1530

So was it the most important monologue evar?

06-01-2017 , 11:04 PM

#37902

Kirbynator

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

The bluff will be enough to get them to back down. His unpredictability and unreasonableness will make him seem like the kind of person who would actually do it.

he's already done lame bluffs about sanctuary cities and crap.

Governors in blue states will just gain more notoriety by standing up to Trump, it's a win win for them

06-01-2017 , 11:04 PM

#37903

Victor

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

Trump will probably get less evil accomplished than other Republicans, but there's more risk.

the risk is so vanishingly small that it doesnt matter

06-01-2017 , 11:17 PM

#37904

Riverman

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Elon Musk, Bob Iger and whoever the **** else think it's a good look to bail on Trump now!?! can seriously go **** themselves

That anyone falls for this **** is so ****ing demoralizing

06-01-2017 , 11:19 PM

#37905

ScreaminAsian

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06-01-2017 , 11:20 PM

#37906

stinkubus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

What would it take for Trump to get the majority of America's support?

Literally nothing that could get through congress other than a declaration of war, but who knows if the generals are even listening to anyone other than Mattis at this point.

06-01-2017 , 11:22 PM

#37907

Our House

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

Was hoping this would end with "secede from the United States"

Noooo! I know it's tempting, but also selfish. We need a strong country. We need to take it back, because it's getting clearer and clearer that one of Trump's goals is to weaken the US for Vladdy Vlad. This is speculation of course, but...

Why is it that all of Trump's "unprecedented" actions have been harmful to either foreign relations, national security, democracy, etc.? These aren't partisan issues either, so Trumpists can **** off bigly with their nonsense about the left and the media targeting poor, naive, idiotic, malicious Trump.

06-01-2017 , 11:30 PM

#37908

Riverman

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9/11 attack and coherent speech after would get him over 50%

06-01-2017 , 11:35 PM

#37909

stinkubus

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0 < P(attack) < 1, but P(coherent speech) = 0

06-01-2017 , 11:37 PM

#37910

Our House

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

9/11 attack and coherent speech after would get him over 50%

Can "reading from a carefully crafted document, designed not to incriminate the president in 1000 different ways" even be considered a speech anymore?

06-01-2017 , 11:44 PM

#37911

+rep_lol

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

9/11 attack and coherent speech after would get him over 50%

van jones: this is the day he won re-election folks

06-01-2017 , 11:47 PM

#37912

RV Life

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eyebooger

I'm terrified to say this, but a terrorist attack on US soil would probably push him over 50%.

Ehh...not sure about that. 2-3 months ago? Yea, for sure. But except for the Trumpkins does he really have any strong support at this point?

He's pretty much becoming the laughingstock of the country and a caricature of himself.

I think a lot of voters were just 100% in the Never Hillary camp and willing to give him a chance. That ship has long since sailed.

If he can manage to stop embarrassing himself for a period of time and then an attack occurs, yea he probably gets 50% easy. But this dope manages to one up himself every week.

06-01-2017 , 11:50 PM

#37913

RV Life

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

9/11 attack and coherent speech after would get him over 50%

LOL.

But in all seriousness, any attack is going to be immediately followed by "I told you so!" Dude can't help himself. He is not an uniter. His way is the best and everyone else is wrong.

06-01-2017 , 11:58 PM

#37914

batair

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Originally Posted by awval999

Don't hold an effigy of the President's bloody decapitated head during a photo shoot.

Obama hung in effigy

Trump is a soft little snowflake. So are those crying about this but not the other.

06-01-2017 , 11:58 PM

#37915

Subfallen

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Jesus ****ing christ. Is this real life? If we don't get at least one credible non-Boomer candidate in 2020 I'm going to lose it. How long will this generation of sociopaths torment us?

06-02-2017 , 12:00 AM

#37916

Loki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Subfallen

Jesus ****ing christ. If we don't get at least one credible non-Boomer candidate in 2020 I'm going to have a nervous breakdown. How long will this generation of sociopaths torment us?

i'd say the dems should run someone young like macron, but their party seems to reject the idea that it needs new blood

06-02-2017 , 12:01 AM

#37917

Onlydo2days

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Originally Posted by Our House

He lost votes today, for sure. The 51% of Republican voters against pulling out of Paris reflects a good amount of people financially affected by this, many losing their jobs and livelihoods. This includes a lot of rich people too.

I'd go as far as to say the above is a larger portion of his base than those who care about climate change.

Who is financially affected? What are you talking about?

And obviously I am pro-agreement but I don't think this is hitting the wallet of as many people as you think.

06-02-2017 , 12:24 AM

#37918

MrFeelNothin

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

"Jared Kushner, a senior White House adviser and Ivanka’s husband, agreed with the president that the Paris agreement was a bad deal. He felt that the carbon emissions standards were too high and that a U.N. fund that helps developing countries counter climate change was costing the United States too much. But he, too, felt Trump should not withdraw but simply renegotiate better terms."

WTF! It is a non-binding agreement! It served as nothing more than a sign of worldwide solidarity regarding our environment and recognition of the negative impacts global warming has on all of us. We had to put out some kind of plan but there were no penalties if we didn't meet our goals. We could have written down our plan on the back of a dirty napkin and it wouldn't matter.

"“He’s stayed where he’s always been, and not for a lack of trying by those who have an opposite opinion,” said Kellyanne Conway, counselor to the president. “He started with a conclusion, and the evidence brought him to the same conclusion.”"

He was never going to change his mind. Can't teach an old dog new tricks.

He saw numbers and went "Oh, those are big." and never questioned the sources or reliability of those statistics.

I was thinking while listening to the "speech" today hiw obvious it was that Trump comes to conclusions about what he should do first then looks for "evidence" to support.

Nice of Conway to confirm.

06-02-2017 , 12:42 AM

#37919

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Originally Posted by wheatrich

he recused himself on russia (though he's actually not doing that either), not going after libs.

Obstructing the Russia investigation is an unrecusal. Of course, your point in parentheses is valid for 2 reasons we're aware of at the moment:

1) Nunes has been attending CIA briefings, using his level of security clearance to gain information specifically on Russia. Most likely to report back to Trump, but we're unsure.

2) He issued the 3 subpoenas about unmasking in violation of the terms of his committee. He is supposed to get approval from a Democratic member before issuing any subpoena, and didn't do it.

06-02-2017 , 12:49 AM

#37920

amoeba

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

Elon Musk, Bob Iger and whoever the **** else think it's a good look to bail on Trump now!?! can seriously go **** themselves

That anyone falls for this **** is so ****ing demoralizing

Musk got a lot of crap from dumb liberals when he was on the council. Besides, if Ivanka can't convince Trump, what good is staying on? It's a lose lose. Get nothing accomplished and get blamed for it.

06-02-2017 , 01:05 AM

#37921

corvette24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jwax13

As someone who lives in OKC, it's worth noting that the city limits sprawl out to fairly rural areas. I imagine that the actual "city" was more in line with other cities on that list.

Area wise, OKC is massive and includes a lot of sq miles that no one would classify as being part of the city.

Edit: Don't get me wrong, politically, Oklahoma is a dumpster fire. One of the main things that pushes me towards moving.

I was born and raised in Ada. Been in this state for my entire 44 years on earth. I live in Norman and work in OKC now. Out state is a political embarrassment. I have been considering a move myself. Several blue states, Australia, Denmark, and Canada are among the current considerations.

06-02-2017 , 01:11 AM

#37922

ecriture d'adulte

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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

i'd say the dems should run someone young like macron, but their party seems to reject the idea that it needs new blood

Im not sure that rigging the primary is the way to go.

06-02-2017 , 01:36 AM

#37923

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The 51% of Republicans that wanted to stay in the climate accord should be repolled immediately after Trump's decision to pull out so we can see the change in percentage.

06-02-2017 , 01:39 AM

#37924

BABARtheELEPHANT

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Macron's statement in English
https://www.pscp.tv/w/1jMKgoodLyqKL

the poaching has begun. Soon all america will be full of mouth breathers.

Last edited by BABARtheELEPHANT; 06-02-2017 at 01:48 AM. Reason: body language is awkward af tho

06-02-2017 , 02:16 AM

#37925

Our House

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Originally Posted by Paul D

http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2...dd-tsr-dnt.cnn

Not sure if pony. Putin trolling.

Putin needs to shut the **** up. Every time he opens his mouth to lie and cover up crimes, Trump learns. Then he uses it and GOP learns. Then they go on TV and deplorables learn. Then deplorables go around defending Putin, saying Russia has no effect on the US or its policies.

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