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06-01-2017 , 06:21 PM

#37801

einbert

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It's no coincidence that a guy like Trump won the R nomination and not a guy like say Mitt Romney who would've stayed in this deal. That is the soul of the Republican party speaking its voice right there.

06-01-2017 , 06:25 PM

#37802

RV Life

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Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 1,935

Not sure how accurate this is, but on Twitter people are saying that the US can't withdraw from the Paris Accord until November of 2019.

If that's the case, why the **** is Trump doing this now?

06-01-2017 , 06:27 PM

#37803

00cooler00

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Lol Lloyd ****ing Blankfein joins twitter today just to **** on Trump

06-01-2017 , 06:30 PM

#37804

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

Not sure how accurate this is, but on Twitter people are saying that the US can't withdraw from the Paris Accord until November of 2019.

If that's the case, why the **** is Trump doing this now?

Another report is that it's a non-binding agreement and the only point of withdrawing is rolling coal.

06-01-2017 , 06:30 PM

#37805

Kirbynator

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did you guys see that Nunes (yeah that guy) issued subpoenas abotu the unmasking?

Guy is supposed to have recused himself LMAO

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecur...ion-of-recusal

06-01-2017 , 06:30 PM

#37806

fatkid

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

Remind me is Claude Taylor one of the good ones? I can't keep them straight at this point

That dude blocked me cuz I called him out on a donation scam he was running.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigt2k4

I'm turning this off and going to buy beer and order pizza

Go ahead and take a dump in the river on your way home cuz it's legal now MAGA suck dong roll coal.

06-01-2017 , 06:32 PM

#37807

SuperUberBob

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They cannot officially withdraw until November 4th, 2020 which is one day after the next Presidential election. Pretty amazing.

06-01-2017 , 06:34 PM

#37808

Dominic

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ASAP17

Scott Pruitt literally just said he was fighting special interests with a straight face. LMAO.

Just tweeted at Pruitt:

@ScottPruittOK The restraint you showed today not to kneel down and fellate Trump as you sold out the environment & our future was inspiring

06-01-2017 , 06:34 PM

#37809

wheatrich

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbynator

did you guys see that Nunes (yeah that guy) issued subpoenas abotu the unmasking?

Guy is supposed to have recused himself LMAO

http://thehill.com/policy/cybersecur...ion-of-recusal

he recused himself on russia (though he's actually not doing that either), not going after libs.

06-01-2017 , 06:38 PM

#37810

RV Life

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Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 1,935

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

They cannot officially withdraw until November 4th, 2020 which is one day after the next Presidential election. Pretty amazing.

Yea, so what is up w/ that? Is Trump actively trying to not get re-elected? If he loses, he can claim it was rigged.

This Paris Accord better be #1, #1A, #1B for the Democratic nominee in 2020 election.

06-01-2017 , 06:39 PM

#37811

einbert

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Quote:

Is Trump actively trying to not get re-elected?

Trump and the rest of the GOP are actively signaling that the voters don't matter. Look at the RepubliCare bill as well. This suggests that they are intending to win the 2018 elections through massive subversion of the democratic process, like massive voter suppression, rather than through being more popular.

06-01-2017 , 06:40 PM

#37812

aflametotheground

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goldman sachs ceo has never tweetet before but comes out to slam trump

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/33...th-first-tweet

06-01-2017 , 06:41 PM

#37813

wheatrich

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you guys realize republicans support leaving paris agreement right? What votes did trump lose today?

06-01-2017 , 06:44 PM

#37814

Loki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wheatrich

you guys realize republicans support leaving paris agreement right?

49% of them do, at most

06-01-2017 , 06:45 PM

#37815

Kirbynator

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there are a lot more americans in favor of the paris accord than there are republicans and democrats

not all republicans are ******ed

06-01-2017 , 06:46 PM

#37816

Onlydo2days

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Trump lost no votes, Americans don't care about global warming. It sounds nice but they just don't. They care about it as much as they care about the Middle East when push comes to shove.

And Lloyd Blankfein and the rest of the CEO/"elite" class attacking him for this is just going to further harden his base.

06-01-2017 , 06:46 PM

#37817

wheatrich

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

49% of them do, at most

It won't stop the 51% from voting R anyway in 18. That's my point.

06-01-2017 , 06:47 PM

#37818

Clovis8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wheatrich

you guys realize republicans have no idea whatsoever what the paris agreement is right? What votes did trump lose today?

FYP

06-01-2017 , 06:47 PM

#37819

m_reed05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wheatrich

you guys realize republicans support leaving paris agreement right? What votes did trump lose today?

Wrong.

06-01-2017 , 06:50 PM

#37820

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wheatrich

you guys realize republicans support leaving paris agreement right? What votes did trump lose today?

Over 70% of American support staying in the agreement.

51% of Republicans support staying in the agreement.

Only 26% of Republicans support withdrawing.

47% of Trump voters say we should participate and 28% of Trump voters say we should withdraw.

http://climatecommunication.yale.edu...ment_by_state/

This is unpopular with Republicans and 3% of Democrats support withdrawing so it's just lose lose for Trump.

Now most Trumpkins will fall in line, but this only hurts Trump, which may well make this withdrawal from a non-binding agreement worth it.

06-01-2017 , 06:50 PM

#37821

JPantz

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I'm sure if they would have just renamed it the Mar-a-lago Accord Trump would have stayed in.

06-01-2017 , 06:54 PM

#37822

wheatrich

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Quote:

Originally Posted by m_reed05

Wrong.

Do you have an example? I haven't seen one person yet.

06-01-2017 , 06:59 PM

#37823

wheatrich

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

# was like 22 R senators that openly supported it. It won't hurt trump at all, you forgot the support #'s of anything that causes liberal tears.

06-01-2017 , 07:02 PM

#37824

ASAP17

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Bob Iger is the latest to say he's done...

06-01-2017 , 07:06 PM

#37825

stinkubus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wooders0n

I don't think it's lol to think that which is why I've asked what she/Germany have done for us. Your answer to that legitimate question is a pretty terrible one. If there are plenty of legitimate answers I'm perfectly happy to learn something and change my stance.

I cannot find any evidence of a single thing that Germany has done to benefit American citizens, much less for there to be massive panic about losing them as our "strongest ally".

There hasn't been too much warring in Europe since NATO was founded, and that's good for American companies that do business there.

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