The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. - Page 1511 - Politics and Economics

You as much as anyone else on 2p2 know that I can get into a bit of a patriotic flame war with foreigners attacking the USA, but that's certainly not easy to do anymore. People around the world have often said "America sucks, but Americans are cool" or something to that effect and I don't know if we can even get that anymore.

People sometimes have crazy reasons for voting and the more desperate they are the crazier the reasons. A poster in the UK election thread has just said that he knows of someone who will vote against the PM partly because she has a 'hunched back'.

I doubt that most people who voted for Trump expected him to be this bad, and were probably just being stupid in thinking it a protest vote. What I find astonishing about the US system is how it appears that one person can do this singlehandedly.

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06-01-2017 , 04:54 PM

#37753

JacktheDumb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

Wut?

What i meant to say is: Nepotism is bad for democracy

06-01-2017 , 04:54 PM

#37754

The_Bends2

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America abdicates its leadership of the world community.

06-01-2017 , 04:56 PM

#37755

2pairsof2s

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Originally Posted by dinopoker

Actually you can get by just with some good google skills, since pretty much everything you could ever want to do in Excel (or any MS Office app) are either in easy to follow articles or YouTube videos.

For that matter I'm not sure what isn't. Flying lessons maybe?

The "Barefoot Bandit" supposedly taught himself to fly using flight instruction videos and flying games... He had continuing problems with landings though.

06-01-2017 , 04:56 PM

#37756

Loki

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Originally Posted by ASAP17

Clearly my intentions are to talk about all the eligible voters who didn't. Not kids, elderly, sick etc.

okay, but you responded to my response to jalfrezi, so i'm not sure of your point at this time

06-01-2017 , 04:59 PM

#37757

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Bends2

America abdicates its leadership of the world community.

Not even leading, just being a part of it. 195 countries are supporting the Paris agreement.

06-01-2017 , 05:01 PM

#37758

ASAP17

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Originally Posted by Noodle Wazlib

okay, but you responded to my response to jalfrezi, so i'm not sure of your point at this time

I'm in agreement with you man, that's the point. Those who didn't vote for Hillary all share some level of responsibility.

06-01-2017 , 05:03 PM

#37759

fuluck414

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2pairsof2s

The "Barefoot Bandit" supposedly taught himself to fly using flight instruction videos and flying games... He had continuing problems with landings though.

There's a very large thread somewhere on 2+2 about a prop bet with a guy having to take off and land an airplane with nothing but a flight simulator computer game as training.

06-01-2017 , 05:04 PM

#37760

pudley4

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi

No, he has the support of his party. They put up with some of the more outlandish stuff because they have no spine, no morals, no ethics, and no cause other than enriching themselves and their benefactors. They are in favor of most if not all of his policies, they may just slightly differ on the extent to which the policy goes.

06-01-2017 , 05:05 PM

#37761

jalfrezi

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If he can pull this **** the odds on him nuking a country must come right down.

06-01-2017 , 05:06 PM

#37762

SuperUberBob

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Bends2

America abdicates its leadership of the world community.

Back to the isolationism of the 1920s.

He did want to go back to the good old days. He just didn't specify when.

06-01-2017 , 05:08 PM

#37763

Double Down

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If this administration continues to enact policies that destroy the world, would there come a point where it would be justified for the rest of the world to collectively declare war against the US since it would have become a malignant tumor? And who would win that fight?

06-01-2017 , 05:10 PM

#37764

SuperUberBob

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Originally Posted by Double Down

MAD would occur

06-01-2017 , 05:12 PM

#37765

sofocused978

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According to CNN app Resorts world "terrorist attack" was just robbery.

06-01-2017 , 05:12 PM

#37766

dlk9s

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Originally Posted by Double Down

We would.

06-01-2017 , 05:13 PM

#37767

SuperUberBob

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So Trump said nothing about Manchester, nothing about Portland, nothing about Mississippi, but took time out of his speech for a robbery in Manila?

Geez.

06-01-2017 , 05:14 PM

#37768

RV Life

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Got back from vacation. Of course Trumpy does this **** w/ climate change. JFC.

He is literally a petulant child angry at everything big brother Obama did.

06-01-2017 , 05:15 PM

#37769

SuperUberBob

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

He is literally a petulant child angry at everything big brother Obama did.

A video representing what Donald Trump did today

06-01-2017 , 05:16 PM

#37770

LostOstrich

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Originally Posted by jalfrezi

My thoughts at thIs time are with the 50% of Americans who aren't evil or stupid.

yeah, this. As pointed out above, it's probably less than 50%, but still. If you voted against Trump, you don't deserve the shame you're inevitably feeling right now.

06-01-2017 , 05:16 PM

#37771

otatop

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Originally Posted by ASAP17

Preibus to remain chief of staff by the end of June odds are plummeting today on PredictIt. Looks like a coin flip he survives the month, Dave Urban is the leading contender to replace him.

That's because ol' Reince is getting the Greek ambassadorship.

06-01-2017 , 05:17 PM

#37772

BlueWillow

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All empires come to an end at some point and Trump would appear to be leading the US's demise as #1 world leader who everyone looks too. China/EU time to step up and claim the mantle.

Let's not kid ourselves withdrawing from this means nothing in real terms - renewables are better value or soon will be significantly better value (insert arguing). It's a big step away from the world stage in reality.

How will you Americans deal with being #2/3/4 etc in the future? I'm guessing not well.

06-01-2017 , 05:20 PM

#37773

einbert

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A lot of people won't deal with it. Why would they have to? It's an abstract concept and like any other abstract concept they'll just lie to themselves. In fact in a lot of GOP voters' minds this makes America greater than ever because it's a huge middle finger to the civilized world.

06-01-2017 , 05:20 PM

#37774

otatop

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Originally Posted by BlueWillow

How will you Americans deal with being #2/3/4 etc in the future? I'm guessing not well.

The same way we've dealt with our decline in things like health care and education: by plugging our ears and chanting "USA! USA!" when anyone points out we're not #1.

06-01-2017 , 05:22 PM

#37775

jalfrezi

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If the possibility that the US might not be #1 in the future attracted voters to Trump, I shudder to think how they'll react when that day actually comes.

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