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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

01-22-2017 , 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
Holy crap, adios must be totally shook if he's defending a woman in a position of authority.
In a few years adios may be in position to claim some liberal family's house and wear jewelry made from their gold fillings.
01-22-2017 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
They've been doing it since Conway and Bannon took over the campaign and it's worked because media is more concerned about ratings. Shock and hyperbole = viewer entertainment while they can't keep up with the onslaught of lie after lie. And god forbid they get one thing wrong, they are immediately attacked and labeled as fake and unreliable news. It boggles my mind they play right into their hands and have not figured out how to adjust by now.
It's hard because the ratings reflect what people are interested in. There may not be much the traditional media can do about as if they don't give the people what they want, the people will switch to other 'news' sources to get their fix.

The internet has changed the world in a fundamental way.
01-22-2017 , 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RainierWolfcastle
Chuck Todd is correct though. Spicer isn't some wacked out Trump fanboy who somehow slipped into a key administration position. Trumps advisors concluded that they could get an edge by sending out Spicer to point at a dog and scream that its a cat. The reaction from Chuck Todd et al is exactly what Bannon had to have anticipated. I'm not going to say its genius or that I know where it leads, but this is a trap of some kind.

That Bannon might know what he's doing is what is frightening.
Or Trump just can't handle the idea that his crowds were smaller and told him to say they weren't. I think what we see is what we get.
01-22-2017 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
I do like being sent that KellyAnne video by a friend, watching it and being like "well, surely #alternativefacts is a thing", then checking Twitter to find it atop the trending list.

lol
01-22-2017 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Is this real?

If Trump actually does recreate the Gestapo there are only two appropriate responses and I have kids, so leaving the country is the one for me.
Hopefully the CIA isn't going to let that happen.

But then again, rooting for the CIA to do the right thing feels a lot like having to count on FL, PA, and OH in the GE.
01-22-2017 , 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by th14


Protection squadron would be a good name.
01-22-2017 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Kellyanne is Goebbles.
Wow.

Kellyanne in a Nazi uniform. Now you've got me all hot and flustered.
01-22-2017 , 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrochu
Hopefully the CIA isn't going to let that happen.

But then again, rooting for the CIA to do the right thing feels a lot like having to count on FL, PA, and OH in the GE.
One of the scarier aspects of this whole thing (Fly and others have touched on this) is how often we hear some variant of "Surely ______ [person/body/institution] will stand up to him now. They won't let something like ______ [ever more egregious Trump proposal/action] happen. This is fine."

He doesn't care about institutions. "Checks and balances" require accountability, honesty, and patriotism - our elected officials have none of these things. There is no one that will save us.

****ing idiots. Who the **** thinks it's a good idea to make this guy the president?

ETA, slightly more optimistic - The only thing that can save us is ourselves. So good luck with that one too.
01-22-2017 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
I would guess well below 50% of the people in Trump's inner circle know what the UN does.
they appointed Nikki Haley to rep us in it, clearly they don't even care
01-22-2017 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle
Or Trump just can't handle the idea that his crowds were smaller and told him to say they weren't. I think what we see is what we get.
It's what that woman on Samantha Bee said. It's not 4D chess. It's at a level that comes naturally to any 3rd grade bully. "Give me back my pencil box. " "What pencil box? "

The reactionaries LOVE it when their big daddy is called a bully, so unfortunately this doesn't work well as an insult.
01-22-2017 , 05:17 PM
01-22-2017 , 05:23 PM
Literacy is just leftist elitism. Ldo.
01-22-2017 , 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
lol, I hope this becomes a recurring bit.
01-22-2017 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by th14


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01-22-2017 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
lol, I hope this becomes a recurring bit.
Oh don't worry it will.

Plus the people who used to make those Bush-ism calendars must be loving life right about now.
01-22-2017 , 06:06 PM
I'm curious about this, what do you guys think?

What did Trump think when he started running regarding his tax returns?

1/ He thought he could never win & knew he was never going to release them. Him running served a different purpose.
2/ He thought he could release his tax returns if he became a serious contender (but decided against it eventually due to reason x).
3/ He thought he could win while never releasing his tax returns.
4/ Something else?
01-22-2017 , 06:21 PM
He never was or will release his tax returns
01-22-2017 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bbfg
I'm curious about this, what do you guys think?

What did Trump think when he started running regarding his tax returns?

1/ He thought he could never win & knew he was never going to release them. Him running served a different purpose.
2/ He thought he could release his tax returns if he became a serious contender (but decided against it eventually due to reason x).
3/ He thought he could win while never releasing his tax returns.
4/ Something else?
Has to be 1. He ran to get publicity and didn't think he could win.

He was never going to release them. He just kept changing his story to delay, each time to a further out date (and then at some point it wouldn't matter any more - either he loses and no on cares, or he wins and then he doesn't care about the criticism).
01-22-2017 , 06:21 PM
You assume he isn't just making it up as he goes along.
01-22-2017 , 06:24 PM
5) He doesn't think beyond step 1. It never even crossed his mind until someone asked him about it.
01-22-2017 , 06:37 PM
Trump is on the senility spectrum, so who knows, but he had to be familiar with Howard Stern's run for Governor of NY where Stern pulled out because of laws requiring financial disclosure. I think Trump planned to just lie about releasing them from day one.
01-22-2017 , 06:43 PM
Here for the alternative facts.
01-22-2017 , 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
If the economy was good he wouldn't have gotten elected. That's why the midwest voted for him. It's not for the common person over here compared to 8 years ago. (in before things that only rich people have or benefit from get posted as the rebuttal)
GDP is up (nominal and per capita), the market is at all time highs, unemployment is down, what else do you want? You really can't say that the economy isn't good. Now there are still problems, sure. Median wages aren't rising all that fast, people are working more hours, more and more jobs are becoming part-time or short-term. But that's not the economy, that's something else. It's a group of different problems with different solutions than the ordinary economy being bad.
01-22-2017 , 07:23 PM
01-22-2017 , 07:28 PM
The CIA either steps in and does the right thing, or we are absolutely ****ed.

      
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