The Euro and EU has greatly benefitted Germany, there is no cheap labour or reason for any country to produce anything in Greece since the labour is the same cost. If the Greek Drachma was still around and you could get 15 Drachmas for a Mark instead of 1 Euro for 1 Euro, there would be a lot more jobs in Greece (as well as Italy/Spain/other places) than there currently are and a lot less manufacturing in Germany since the Marks is too expensive to produce anything there. They basically killed the invisible hand with the invention of the Euro so the strong got stronger and the weak, weaker.

Yep this was pure genius. Should be required reading.

Cite? Fake news. Coveefee.

Inconceivable! In January I was told we shouldn't bother with such incidental contacts. It makes us look petty or vindictive or something.

Re that article about Trump, I've gotten into meditation last few years. The stuff I'm doing is non-denominational but is based around (Tibetan, specifically) Buddhism. It's impossible not to see Trump in those terms. He's like the Anti-Buddha, a creature of pure wanting, ego and dissatisfaction. The article is making the same point.

elon musk is more concerned about it than you are so not sure why u are talking.

CNN. Trumpists are knocking it down of course.

Is this why he delayed announcing the Paris pull out (distraction)? Does it explain the sudden increase in twitter bots?

#PutinsPayDay

Jay Sekelow just got owned hard twice on Anderson Cooper. (one of those shows that Hannity is fighting to take off the air)

the agreement is detrimental to corporate profit. companies like exxon mobil do not benefit which means the state department will ensure withdrawal.

Tillerson wants us to stay in.

exxon ceo released a statement saying the U.S. should not withdraw from the Paris agreement.

0 for 2 on your post.

all in the game yo

Maddow did show while sick on Fri., was out sick Tues and Wed. Trump is going to kill her due to overwork.

The CEOs you know may all be cool guys, but they didn't spent $119M in 2016 lobbying for more taxes on the products they sell.

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/to...16&indexType=i

I don't see the green lobby on the list there. You can find Alternative Energy if you look at all industries - $5M.

https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/in...e.php?id=E1500

That's just part of the disinformation campaign.

And even if he's telling the truth who cares if Trump is going to withdraw us anyway. Good to know our SOS is useless and has no clout.

I think the POTUS and SOS publicly having opposite opinions on a major international treaty and would be noteworthy in a normal administration.

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One of the largest industries on earth spends a lot of money on lobbying. This is evidence of what?

You really need to rethink this boogeyman view of all oil and gas people you seem to have. Of course there are bad companies who act with willful disregard for the environment but this is not all or even a majority of them.

Trump is treating this Paris accord thing like a reality show reveal. Will the accord be kicked off the island/fired? Tune in tomorrow.

This is the twilight zone with the little kid with massive powers.

I disagree, a shrewd negotiator always gives away assets for nothing in return.

I really don't. You should stop forgiving them. I know most of the hundreds of thousands, or millions, of people in the industry are decent folk who love their dogs and such, but the industry is one of the major players in a myriad of environmental tragedies with global warming being the most catastrophic, but hardly the only serious problem. Not just that, but the massive amount of money have corrupted governments everywhere, have played a huge part in conflicts, and support some of the most oppressive regimes in the world.

The oil and gas industry spending a lot of money is evidence of them influencing the government to enact policies which benefit the oil and gas industry.

I know the industry can't disappear overnight, but I can't think of much more important work than doing what it takes to speed that along.


There are a million examples and this is hardly the worst, but it's something like this, one after the other. It's massive amount of money used to corrupt government to do things like exclude oil and gas from regulation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/03/opinion/03tue3.html

We need to wish Trump to the corn field. That's right.

There was an NPR story within the last 10 days on this very subject. A ton of oil and gas companies give outstanding lip service to the environment, while giving huge sums of money to trade associations and lobbying firms whose goal is exactly the opposite.