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05-31-2017 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by jwax13
Why do 45* and his droogs want to leave the Paris agreement? I've been searching for a coherent argument against the accords, but can't seem to find one, other than GLOBALISM BAD.
it's the opposite of what all the eggheads that got us into this mess want, which triggers trump's gut to enter reaction mode
05-31-2017 , 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Bahaahaha.
I will wait for the CBO score.

RWNJ's fundamentally don't understand how economic boycotts work especially when they have the moral low ground.
05-31-2017 , 06:45 PM
Oh and by the way I'm actually fine with CNN firing Kathy Griffin. I just think they should be consistent. And it's not impossible to have "the right" be represented but not have on craven liars that are just agents of untruth. MSNBC manages to do that just fine, not that MSNBC is perfect but it just shows that you can represent the conservative point of view without having those kind of people on your channel.
05-31-2017 , 06:47 PM
Is Twitter cracking down on the bots? I'm seeing a lot of "Tweet unavailable" replies under Trumps tweets today that were there this morning
05-31-2017 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jwax13
Why do 45* and his droogs want to leave the Paris agreement? I've been searching for a coherent argument against the accords, but can't seem to find one, other than GLOBALISM BAD.
Something something jobs

Something something illuminati.

That's literally all they have.
05-31-2017 , 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jwax13
Why do 45* and his droogs want to leave the Paris agreement? I've been searching for a coherent argument against the accords, but can't seem to find one, other than GLOBALISM BAD.
If Putin has something on Trump, this could be a perfect example of that leverage. There is no good reason to pull out, and considering how it will harm our relationships with other countries and create deeper fractures which is exactly what Putin wants, this could be the reason why.
05-31-2017 , 07:07 PM
Something something Obama did it so it's bad.
05-31-2017 , 07:11 PM
The answer is simple **** Obama. That's it.
05-31-2017 , 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jwax13
Why do 45* and his droogs want to leave the Paris agreement? I've been searching for a coherent argument against the accords, but can't seem to find one, other than GLOBALISM BAD.
American energy companies don't want to pay for the pollution they cause,any solution is going to involve some kind of governing that isn't cutting taxes or easily making poor or minority lives harder so it's an anathema to Republicans. I can't find the article but Trump's budget guy basically said they didn't want to spend money on it.
05-31-2017 , 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
American energy companies don't want to pay for the pollution they cause
This is a very odd way to look at it. Energy companies don't cause the vast majority of greenhouse gas production. The use of thier products by thier customers, and all of us, does.

I personally know many energy CEOs and to a person they don't mind taxes for externalities as long as they make sense in the actual world in which we live and not some fantasy world in which our global petro-economy is magically replaced overnight by green energy.

Before I get jumped on as some pro-oil nut I did my PhD on paleoclimatology, run and large environmental company and believe the biggest threat to humanity is global warming. I simply want us to focus on actual solutions and not fantasy ones dreamt up by the extreme green lobby.
05-31-2017 , 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
http://lithub.com/rebecca-solnit-the...-donald-trump/

Phenomenal article on Trump that is both beautifully written and the best take down I've ever read.
This is incredible--anyone who skipped over it, go back and read immediately
05-31-2017 , 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by aflametotheground
mitt romney comes out in support of the paris deal. and of course elon musk says he will withdraw from trumps business advisory board (or whatever it is) if he withdraws.
they seem deeply concerned
05-31-2017 , 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jwax13
Why do 45* and his droogs want to leave the Paris agreement? I've been searching for a coherent argument against the accords, but can't seem to find one, other than GLOBALISM BAD.
Why would somebody who thinks global warming is a conspiracy created by the Chinese bother dealing with it?
05-31-2017 , 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by champstark
This is incredible--anyone who skipped over it, go back and read immediately
Thanks for the heads up.

"The man in the white house sits, naked and obscene, a pustule of ego, in the harsh light, a man whose grasp exceeded his understanding, because his understanding was dulled by indulgence. He must know somewhere below the surface he skates on that he has destroyed his image, and like Dorian Gray before him, will be devoured by his own corrosion in due time too. One way or another this will kill him, though he may drag down millions with him. One way or another, he knows he has stepped off a cliff, pronounced himself king of the air, and is in freefall. Another dungheap awaits his landing; the dung is all his; when he plunges into it he will be, at last, a self-made man."
05-31-2017 , 07:42 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.9eda7fcb201a

Trump administration moves to return Russian compounds in Maryland and New York

Washington Post - 17 minutes ago

The compounds were being “used by Russian personnel for intelligence-related purposes,”
05-31-2017 , 07:49 PM
That article is straight fire. Phenomenal.

And she's right. When he finally goes down, he'll die within 6 months. These dudes can't handle exposure.
05-31-2017 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Why would somebody who thinks global warming is a conspiracy created by the Chinese bother dealing with it?
Well: 1) it's possible to be wrong and 2) it put you in a camp with Syria and Ecuador (and the latter because the accord was too weak).

Sometimes leadership means rolling up your sleeves and getting dirty, just like a grunt. This both earns respect from the troops or team and renews a sense of the work involved in a common effort. The US is not a dictator. To the extent it has led, it has led through pragmatism, example, coaxing, coercion, and understanding the interests of the parties involved. Even if climate change were a hoax and everyone knew it, it would be best to stay in. That it is not a hoax means withdrawing is little more self-destructive petulance and an abdication of leadership. No one is willing to trust, let alone follow, a petulant leader who denies reality and does not respect others. Nothing Obama ever did comes close to what Trump has done and continues to do in terms of weakening US leadership.
05-31-2017 , 07:52 PM
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Last edited by All-In Flynn; 05-31-2017 at 07:54 PM. Reason: I'm very tired
05-31-2017 , 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by All-In Flynn
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covfefe?
05-31-2017 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by xyberman
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.9eda7fcb201a

Trump administration moves to return Russian compounds in Maryland and New York

Washington Post - 17 minutes ago

The compounds were being “used by Russian personnel for intelligence-related purposes,”
I could swear he's being blackmailed.
05-31-2017 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by master3004
Is Twitter cracking down on the bots? I'm seeing a lot of "Tweet unavailable" replies under Trumps tweets today that were there this morning
Trying to delete the evidence? I'm kind of deeply concerned about this. Does anyone know how the internet rules Trump recently changed could affect either Twitter or sites that have records/archives of his tweets?
05-31-2017 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
covfefe?
In all honesty, probably even covfefer. And since the only thing we have to covfefe is covfefe itself, we must ask not what our covfefe can covfefe for us, but what we can covfefe for covfefe.
05-31-2017 , 07:58 PM
I think I'm finally ready to pronounce a generalized doctrine for Trump to follow in all matters, foreign and domestic: The Constanza Doctrine.

It's simple: evaluate all options, decide on the best course of action, do the opposite.
05-31-2017 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
Well: 1) it's possible to be wrong and 2) it put you in a camp with Syria and Ecuador (and the latter because the accord was too weak).
I know it's only 3rd party heresay, but didn't that reporter claim Jared told them Trump doesn't really believe it, and he's just going along with filling Republicans?
05-31-2017 , 08:03 PM
YAY! Congress is now investigating the 3rd Sessions/Kislyak meeting at the Mayflower Hotel.

      
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