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05-31-2017 , 01:18 PM

#37326

dlk9s

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Originally Posted by bigt2k4

Or it helps get you out of the well.

05-31-2017 , 01:19 PM

#37327

tomdemaine

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Trump is just the moral authority we need for a lesson on ****ing civility.

05-31-2017 , 01:24 PM

#37328

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

the Conservative movement has been with us like something you just can't shake off for over 50 years and continues to hold a ton of political power.

Sadly, conservatives may be one of the few 50 year things that this administration won't shake off.

05-31-2017 , 01:28 PM

#37329

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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

Don, Tiffany, Ivanka and Eric are traumatized by Kathy Griffin lol gtfo

If they didn't get excited at first, thinking it was a news report.

05-31-2017 , 01:29 PM

#37330

microbet

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

so the only countries not in the paris agreement were nicaragua and syria?

lol

Nicaragua's reasoning is that the agreement doesn't go far enough and the targets aren't binding.

http://heavy.com/news/2017/05/paris-...ving-trump-un/

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“We’re not going to submit because voluntary responsibilities is a path to failure,” Quist [Nicaragua's representative to the Paris talks] said at the time, reports TelesurTV. “It’s a failed mechanism that’s leading us down the road to 3 degrees Celsius, 4 degrees Celsius, 5 degrees Celsius.

Syria is busy.

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05-31-2017 , 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Our House

Sadly, conservatives may be one of the few 50 year things that this administration won't shake off.

Maybe the AHCA will kill most of them off? ONE TIME.

05-31-2017 , 01:40 PM

#37332

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Originally Posted by StimAbuser

Maybe the AHCA will kill most of them off? ONE TIME.

Don't say that. Wishing them death makes us as bad as them.

Actually, no it doesn't. But killing them by the masses and taking their rolls would.

05-31-2017 , 01:43 PM

#37333

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Disgusts me how many around Trump (ESP his family) are enablers. Pulling out of Paris Accord is a disgraceful, terrible message to our kids.

05-31-2017 , 01:44 PM

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Leaving The Paris Agreement Would Be Indefensible

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Pulling out of Paris would cause serious diplomatic damage. The countries of the world care about climate change. They see it as a profound threat. They recognize there is no way to meet that global threat without an effective global regime. And they understand that the Paris regime cannot work in the long run if the world’s indispensable power has left the table. The president’s exit from Paris would be read as a kind of “drop dead” to the rest of the world. Bitterness, anger, and disgust would be the wages of this careless act. As Ronald Reagan’s secretary of state, George Shultz, said recently about Paris, “[g]lobal statecraft relies on trust, reputation and credibility, which can be all too easily squandered. …[I]f America fails to honor a global agreement that it helped forge, the repercussions will undercut our diplomatic priorities across the globe.”

What is perhaps most astonishing about the possibility of withdrawal, given Trump’s business background, is that such a decision would fly in the face of nearly across-the-board support for Paris among top American companies, in sectors ranging from oil and gas to retail, chemicals, utilities, agriculture, finance, information, and autos. Business leaders know climate change is real. They know Paris is an agreement they can work with. They know having U.S. negotiators at the table to protect their interests on matters like intellectual property and trade is crucial. They know that the transition to clean energy is one of the biggest economic plays of this century, that climate change is a major driver of this transition, that the United States is perfectly positioned to lead with our unmatched culture of innovation, but that opting out of Paris will undermine this opportunity to expand markets, create jobs and build wealth.

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Against these potent reasons to stay in the Paris Agreement, the withdrawal crowd has offered up bogus legal arguments that misunderstand the agreement, but they are just excuses. The real reason for their opposition is that they reject the importance of containing climate change in the first place. Remember OMB Director Mike Mulvaney’s words: “we're not spending money on [climate change] anymore; we consider that to be a waste.”

The benefit of leaving is the Trump administration doesn't believe climate change is important? Wat? What are they publicly selling as their reasons leaving?

05-31-2017 , 01:45 PM

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Some possible assassin was just arrested with guns and 90 (?) rounds of ammo at Trump International Hotel in Washington. Just saw it on Wolf/CNN.

05-31-2017 , 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bigt2k4

Oops, but I'm sure the corporations are charged for the cleanup and restoration?

lol no. BP paid about a third as much as the damage their spill caused.

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The left does make up stats from time to time as well to support their arguments.

What are some made up stats about climate change?

Is 400 PPM bogus? Just a bunch of made up hooey? An amazing coincidence that we have more CO2 in the atmosphere than we've had in hundreds of thousands of years right around the time humans start pumping that **** out?

05-31-2017 , 01:51 PM

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Leaving The Paris Agreement Would Be Indefensible

The benefit of leaving is the Trump administration doesn't believe climate change is important? Wat? What are they publicly selling as their reasons leaving?

Based on Trump's pattern, the only private reasons have to be satisfying the GOP or to destroy America for Putin/someone, right? But you're correct. Neither of those is a legitimate public reason.

05-31-2017 , 01:52 PM

#37338

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Originally Posted by Our House

Don't say that. Wishing them death makes us as bad as them.

Actually, no it doesn't. But killing them by the masses and taking their rolls would.

They'd be killing themselves though. But LDO I don't say this anywhere were they'd see it and use it.

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Originally Posted by Our House

Some possible assassin was just arrested with guns and 90 (?) rounds of ammo at Trump International Hotel in Washington. Just saw it on Wolf/CNN.

Martyring Trump would be so bad for us. We need him to get impeached, not dead.

05-31-2017 , 01:54 PM

#37339

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"CNN has fired Kathy Griffin from their annual New Year’s Eve program, which she cohosted with anchor Anderson Cooper."

05-31-2017 , 01:54 PM

#37340

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Elon Musk just tweeted he's pulling out of Trump's council when the decision to pull out of Paris becomes official, really hoping he's not the only one.

05-31-2017 , 01:59 PM

#37341

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

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Originally Posted by formula72

"CNN has fired Kathy Griffin from their annual New Year’s Eve program, which she cohosted with anchor Anderson Cooper."

I didn't even know CNN had a NYE program.

Haven't seen anything on potential Trump assassin. If confirmed, I'm sure the right will be outraged but merely "concerned" about the white supremacist murderer in Oregon.

05-31-2017 , 01:59 PM

#37342

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Really #MAGA when we are leaving crucial world issues to be decided by Germans/Chinese. **** nationalism, these morons are ruining America.

05-31-2017 , 02:02 PM

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Spicey is hosting a rare audio-only press briefing soon.

05-31-2017 , 02:03 PM

#37344

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Originally Posted by jjshabado

If we just lock up one more drug dealer, our drug problem will be solved!

microbet already laid out the reasons why but I'll +1 that this is a bad post

05-31-2017 , 02:04 PM

#37345

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He will make China the world leading superpower in no time.

05-31-2017 , 02:05 PM

#37346

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re: report of possible assassin

Well, initial reports are usually wrong, but

http://heavy.com/news/2017/05/bryan-...ashington-d-c/

was there a threat to Trump?

PTSD veteran doctor with guns, supported Trump, staying at his hotel.

05-31-2017 , 02:06 PM

#37347

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Originally Posted by Our House

Spicey is hosting a rare audio-only press briefing soon.

After the quick pressor yesterday, we aren't far from them being scrapped altogether.

05-31-2017 , 02:09 PM

#37348

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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

I didn't even know CNN had a NYE program.

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They do. It normally consists of Don Lemon getting **** faced.

05-31-2017 , 02:10 PM

#37349

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Originally Posted by aflametotheground

hes pulling out of paris according to Axios

https://www.axios.com/scoop-trump-is...427773025.html

Rick Salomon and Trump have something in common, they both pulled out of Paris.

05-31-2017 , 02:14 PM

#37350

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Originally Posted by otatop

lol no. BP paid about a third as much as the damage their spill caused.
What are some made up stats about climate change?

Is 400 PPM bogus? Just a bunch of made up hooey? An amazing coincidence that we have more CO2 in the atmosphere than we've had in hundreds of thousands of years right around the time humans start pumping that **** out?

I'm not going to read a linked article that you are saying is true because that is the definition of a straw man argument. I said some, then I explicitly referred to Greenpeace as an example

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