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05-31-2017 , 10:25 AM

#37276

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

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Quote:

Originally Posted by +rep_lol

i mean W T F is so "low" about calling a ****ing guy who lies every other word out his mouth a liar?

this ****ing pearlclutching over imaginary standards of civility and ****, like wtf i just dont get it

that dude is a goddamn liar, **** him, and **** corey booker for being uncomfortable saying so. primary his worthless ass. ****ing idiot. how's that for civility

I mean we have to up our fake news game. That was one of the largest contributors to Trump's victory. You think that Democrats aren't unexploitable when it comes to clickbait nonsense? Right now, fake news is right-wing territory and we need to make it left-wing territory.

The truth can **** off. It means nothing in this new world.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

Call me naive like Jared, but I refuse to believe that Mueller, the FBI, and all the other investigations will let it go to 2018 or 2020 elections before putting insane criminal/financial/whatever necessary pressures on the WH and GOP given the irreversible global damages that will occur before then.

Maybe before 2020, but this thing looks like it goes super deep, way deeper than Watergate. I can imagine this taking well over a year to properly investigate let alone everything else. Plus, the GOP and others under investigation will do everything it can to stall the process.

05-31-2017 , 10:29 AM

#37277

ligastar

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i'm not sure how aware he is as an 11-year-old, but i'd be pissed at daddy today if i were Barron.

05-31-2017 , 10:36 AM

#37278

Our House

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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

No **** it's deep. This thing is bigger than Watergate for sure. Investigations have consequences though. Everything we're seeing indicates they are speeding up and getting more involved/intense. And the effects of them aren't only felt at the end either. Trump may be the last to go, just not without dragging everyone down with him and tying his hands a great deal. If that happens, which it probably will, mission accomplished.

05-31-2017 , 10:41 AM

#37279

Our House

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I'm really surprised Trump hasn't tried to get someone around him in the WH to become a double agent against the MSN by leaking disinformation to muddy the waters and drop the press's credibility even lower.

Or maybe he did try, and nobody was willing to tarnish their good reputation (ahhhh hahaha) .

05-31-2017 , 10:46 AM

#37280

bigt2k4

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

Clovis,

If you want to meet the Paris goals, put your body in the way of pipeline construction in Alberta.

https://thetyee.ca/News/2017/01/19/T...Paris-Targets/

Would if you support the pipeline? Think the 'catastrophic' effects are way overblown and almost assume leaks that are never really going to happen.

05-31-2017 , 10:49 AM

#37281

th14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/stat...50030420094976

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/866374018051584005

05-31-2017 , 10:50 AM

#37282

dinopoker

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Originally Posted by Namath12

Dumbest. President. Ever.

Well maybe they can just text him instead.

05-31-2017 , 10:52 AM

#37283

Namath12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

Even if Trump remains completely tiny-hands off (unlikely) this will probably drag on for years. These things often do. There was still Iran-Contra related stuff going on almost into Clinton's presidency. Watergate moved relatively quickly but that was probably more due to the Dems being in charge of the various committees than anything else.

Last edited by Namath12; 05-31-2017 at 10:59 AM. Reason: and the tapes

05-31-2017 , 10:53 AM

#37284

Huehuecoyotl

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Originally Posted by dinopoker

Well maybe they can just text him instead.

I'll have to go find it but there's a flaw in the whatever architecture is used for texting as well. Some thieves were using it to get around the 2 form authentication by capturing the text message that's supposed to be sent to the phone.

05-31-2017 , 10:57 AM

#37285

dlk9s

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I'm just sad that I was a slow pony on trying to register the "covfefe.com" domain. I don't want no stinking .info URL.

05-31-2017 , 11:00 AM

#37286

Our House

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Chatter is saying that the failing state-run Fox News has around 50% fake twitterbot support now too. Not sure how recently it happened, but I saw several screenshots of that Twitter audit page or whatever it's called. It was right about the same %age as on Trump's account.

Have we determined the origin of these bots yet? Is it Putin's palaces? The WH war room? GOP headquarters in Tennessee? Sessions's private prisons? Ecuadorian embassy in London? The Saudi Arabian ORB? So many possibilities...

05-31-2017 , 11:01 AM

#37287

dinopoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

#thatwasthejoke

Knowing Trump he'll probably suggest using DM on Twitter anyways.

05-31-2017 , 11:01 AM

#37288

bobman0330

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Originally Posted by Our House

I mean, where do you think all these stories about Jared and Ivanka as moderating influences come from?

05-31-2017 , 11:09 AM

#37289

Our House

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Quote:

Originally Posted by th14

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/stat...50030420094976

https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/866374018051584005

Dumb dumb dumb comments. These idiots don't grasp confidence intervals in the slightest. They don't even need to know what it's called, just the concept is good enough.

...which is weird, because deplorables use the correct process to assess truth in other walks of life. There's a mental block when it comes to ideologies like Trumpism and religion.

05-31-2017 , 11:14 AM

#37290

Our House

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Originally Posted by Namath12

Comparing what's happening now with old scandals may be a good foundation, but not a good idea overall. When it comes to time frames, we're better off contrasting how fast information is moving, how idiotic and incompetent this administration is, Trump's huge BLABBERMOUTH, etc.

05-31-2017 , 11:15 AM

#37291

otatop

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

...which is weird, because deplorables use the correct process to assess truth in other walks of life.

Gonna need a cite on this one.

05-31-2017 , 11:17 AM

#37292

Our House

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobman0330

I mean, where do you think all these stories about Jared and Ivanka as moderating influences come from?

I guess reputable organizations would just reveal a crooked source anyway. If they're allowed...

05-31-2017 , 11:31 AM

#37293

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bigt2k4

Would if you support the pipeline? Think the 'catastrophic' effects are way overblown and almost assume leaks that are never really going to happen.

Leaks do happen, but the point is really obstruction and to make the process more expensive. And the leaks completely ignores climate change which is caused by the successful operation of this industry. The leakiest way to deliver the oil (per unit shipped) would be to have people walk it down from Alberta carrying open buckets, but that would be a much better way for the environment.

05-31-2017 , 11:38 AM

#37294

FlyWf

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I'm absolutely baffled by how often the NYT employs people who are clearly getting rolled by Ivanka and Jared for shameless PR about how they totes secretly are the liberalist libs who ever libs and they are the constraint on Trump.

05-31-2017 , 11:39 AM

#37295

JacktheDumb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

Trump has to be stopped.

Anyone talking about anything other than the Paris deal is a total moron who should be shunned.

This is the worst political decision in America in decades. It will result in more deaths than the Holocaust and more loss of wealth than all the wars of the past 100 years.

Historians are going to look at our generation as the worst since slavery.

Meanwhile in another reality

Quote:

Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), a leading ally of President Donald Trump’s in the U.S. Senate, told Breitbart News exclusively in an interview in his office this week that at least six million U.S. jobs are at risk if President Trump does not pull out of the leftist Paris climate deal.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...american-jobs/

Disclaimer: Iam really sorry for linking to Breitbart.

05-31-2017 , 11:47 AM

#37296

dinopoker

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That's a lot of jobs for an accord that's non binding.

05-31-2017 , 11:48 AM

#37297

raradevils

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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

Yeah, the baby boomers will be the representation of all that has destroyed our country should it be destroyed.

Ultimately, this is part of the life cycle of a country. Olds had the privilege of living through an America that was the most powerful country in the world. As power and influence fluctuates over time, some generation will get shafted during a downward turn and that happens to be millennials. We will recover but will it be during my lifetime?

We have done a lot of bad but there have also been an awful lot accomplished. Who do you think the flower children were? Pushed for ending the war in Vietnam, earth day amongst many other things.

05-31-2017 , 11:57 AM

#37298

microbet

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People blame the baby boomers, the generation born right after the war, but it was the war itself, its after effects and "progress" in general which led to the corporate, wall st., madison avenue-ization of the world which led to the consumer based, egoistic culture that followed.