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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

05-29-2017 , 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
We should make a running list of all the false equivalencies out there:

Anti-vaxxers are the liberal equivalent of creationists. Sure except they're like 5% of liberals, and almost every liberal I know on FB rails on anti-vaxxers. Don't see that with conservatives and creationism. Almost all conservatives literally believe a plucky band of oil industry shills have exposed 97% of mainstream scientist as amoral liars - whoring themselves out for that sweet sweet grant stipend.

MSM is the liberal equivalent of FoxNews - equal and opposite. That's one of those ones that's so stupid you don't even want to address it, except 40% of the country believes it, and about 60% of those literally believe CNN makes **** up whereas Breitbart spits the truth. Ugh.

Soros is just as powerful and dangerous, if not worse, than the Kochs, Adelson, Robert Mercer, Murdoch, the dude who owns Sinclair, etc. Conservatives have the Kochs. Liberals have... Soros. Conservatives have Adelson, liberals have... Soros. Etc. He's like the Maxine Waters or Al Sharpton of tycoons.

What else?
It's the Democrats fault the supreme Court filibuster was nuked. After all they nuked the filibuster for lower judicial nominees.
05-29-2017 , 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Minirra
What else? ****ing everything else. That's a defining characteristic of hard right-wing mentality; anything can be equated to anything else if you feel they should be equal. Relevance, context, scale, accuracy, objectivity - these things aren't needed to play the game. The list wouldn't end.
I know everything else. But specifics, concrete lists, help fight gaslighting.

Or for you Chronicles of Narnia fans. Specifics are like Puddleglum sticking his foot in the fire to cut through the Witch-Queen of Underland's spell.

Still pissed the movies died at Voyage of the Dawn Treader. I think The Sliver Chair would have made the best movie. After that though it descends into a bunch of anti-Arab stuff. The Horse and His Boy is basically a gigantic dig at Islam. I can't even remember what book 6 is. The Last Battle would have been insufferable - like the last half of Return of the King x 10. All lame anti-climax.
05-29-2017 , 05:26 AM
There's nothing wrong with a backchannel to a country.

There's nothing wrong with talking to an ambassador.

Dems are obstructionists.

So & so Clinton got 5 million from Saudi Arabia.

This nation was divided before I got here.

Comey is a grandstander.

Lyin' Ted.

Crooked Hillary.

It's a witch hunt.

There's lots.
05-29-2017 , 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
I want the option to not have to buy newspaper subscriptions individually. I get enough spam, my CC information is spread out enough, and I'd rather deal with one customer service department instead of a half-dozen. Obviously newspapers are never going to do away with a la carte for people who want that.

Also presumably this package would be cheaper than buying the subs individually - since a) the paper's cost per-subscriber for online-only is essentially zero and b) smaller ****tier websites would probably pay to be part of the bundle with the big boys.

Does anyone know anyone at NYT, WaPo or WSJ I can pitch this idea to?
Maybe Blendle is something for you. It's basically a ppv article aggregator. WaPo and NYT are partnered up. Afaik it's in beta in the US.
05-29-2017 , 06:25 AM
Christian persecution.

Anything from Sessions on marijuana.

No president has accomplished more in their first 100 days.

Biggest electoral college victory since Reagan.
05-29-2017 , 06:59 AM
Here is a nice example of partisan politics and false equivalency (R-TN Senator on Trump vs Obama foreign trips):

https://twitter.com/SenBobCorker/sta...33347254067201
https://twitter.com/TVietor08/status/868868303564845056
05-29-2017 , 07:12 AM
Some dude went on a rampage and killed 8 people in Mississippi, including a cop. It barely gets covered. Sad state of affairs for our country.
05-29-2017 , 07:15 AM
I think people miss something about Trump's tweets. They sound like mostly stupid gibberish, but they often represent an effort at strategic thought or "that's what I intended all along." So the tweet about more money for healthcare just means that he now realizes the house bill isn't going anywhere so he's trying to pivot to another plan. Better late than never.

Was a great episode of charlie rose with Ezra Klein and Peter orzag last week on the basic constraints of healthcare economics. Some of the info seems to be seeping into Trump (not from exposure to Ezra Klein, obv). Of course, if he pivots on HC he needs to pivot on "tax reform" and torpedo GOP fantasies, which is about when he'll be impeached.
05-29-2017 , 07:23 AM
Yeah Trump's got major major problems right now, trying to carefully play a balance game between pleasing his base, staying out of legal trouble for him & his team, avoiding public exposure of secrets, and pursuing a GOP policy agenda. "Carefully" is the key word and Trump, the idiot, cannot do "carefully" at all.
05-29-2017 , 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
The gov is right though isn't she?

It is mostly a result of nat gas/oil prices plummeting after the fracking boom?
Without context yes. With context, a lot of states that have oil and natural gas used high prices as a pretext to cut taxes because the oil and gas were bringing in the revenues. When oil and gas prices fell, which was 4(?) years ago, because of anti tax orthodoxy, states have been politically unwilling to raise taxes to the levels they need. To a significant minority of Republicans the government is inefficient so then having taxes so low these government services stop working is a good thing because private enterprise will step in. So none of this a surprise.
05-29-2017 , 09:03 AM
This is new to me. It looks like NSA and Mike Rogers have been DOing (pun intended, read on) some heavy duty document & evidence preservation on Trump/Russia to report back to Mueller. Has anyone heard about this DO and SIGINT stuff?

NSA in Unprecedented Hunt for KremlinGate Evidence

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In my last column, I broke the news that Admiral Mike Rogers, the director of the National Security Agency, reportedly explained to his workforce last week that he had declined to assist President Donald Trump in his efforts to undermine the FBI and its counterintelligence investigation of the White House. As Rogers is said to have explained to agency personnel, “There is no question that we have evidence of election involvement and questionable contacts with the Russians.”

On this basis, Admiral Rogers confirmed the existence of highly classified signals intelligence which establishes some sort of collusion between Team Trump and the Kremlin during the 2016 election campaign. However, now that the Justice Department has appointed Robert Mueller special counsel charged with running the Russia investigation, NSA is apparently pulling out all the stops to track down any additional evidence which might be relevant to the expanded inquiry into KremlinGate.

Specifically, last week NSA is believed to have sent out an unprecedented order to the Directorate of Operations, the agency’s largest unit. The DO, as insiders term it, manages all of NSA’s SIGINT assets worldwide, making it the most important spy operation on earth. The email sent to every person assigned to the DO came from the Office of General Counsel, the NSA’s in-house lawyers, and it was something seldom seen at the agency—a preservation order.

Such an order would have charged every DO official, from junior analysts to senior managers, with finding any references to individuals involved in KremlinGate, especially high-ranking Americans—and preserving those records for Federal investigators. This would include intercepted phone calls and any transcripts of them, emails, online chats, faxes—anything the agency might have picked up last year.


At the request of NSA officials, I will not name the specific individuals that DO personnel have been told to be on the lookout for in SIGINT intercepts, but one could fairly surmise that the list includes virtually all key members of Team Trump.

(read more - it's good)
05-29-2017 , 09:08 AM
Trump told NYT he has total confidence in Jared and that he's a very good person.

Now where have we heard this before?...
05-29-2017 , 09:17 AM
"An undertaking of this size and scope has never happened in NSA’s 65-year history. Although preservation orders have been issued previously, never has the entire DO been told to search all its databases for SIGINT on named individuals, then preserve anything that’s discovered. KremlinGate is a unique event in our nation’s history, with accusations of nefarious meddling by hostile intelligence agencies in our democracy, and it’s bringing about unprecedented developments in our spy agencies too.

Given the complex nature of SIGINT—such a DO preservation order will require thousands of analysts to reexamine at least hundreds of thousands of intercepted communications—it seems likely that some relevant information will be uncovered. Although the public may not learn of new evidence anytime soon, we can rest assured that anything pertinent to the KremlinGate inquiry will be shared with the FBI and Bob Mueller’s investigators without delay."

Article written by former NSA analyst. Good luck with the Lendowski war room. I honesty think Trump is listening to Stephen Miller.
05-29-2017 , 09:22 AM
BUT WHO IS GOING TO PERFORM THE UNMASKING
05-29-2017 , 09:23 AM
If trump pulls out of Paris accord history will judge him as the president who caused the most death and economic loss in history.
05-29-2017 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
BUT WHO IS GOING TO PERFORM THE UNMASKING
Gonna have to call in Susan Rice.
05-29-2017 , 09:34 AM
In Trump's favor, an investigation this thorough will surly absolve him of anything shady.
05-29-2017 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass
So what would make left wing Trump, and by extension what makes Trump Trump? Is it mostly the honey badger?
Imagine the same guy except he registered as a D instead of a R. He doesn't have any ideology except himself.
05-29-2017 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
If trump pulls out of Paris accord history will judge him as the president who caused the most death and economic loss in history.
Well, maybe for unrelated reasons. As I understand it, the agreement does not have mandatory targets. It's more like a statement of principle. It just weakens the US internationally and economically and props up dictators, just standard Trump stuff.
05-29-2017 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Trump told NYT he has total confidence in Jared and that he's a very good person.
05-29-2017 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
The richest country in the world in the middle of years of continuous growth, and we can't even educate our kids.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...=.9f72eec5caff
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I don't want to abolish government. I simply want to reduce it to the size where I can drag it into the bathroom and drown it in the bathtub. - Grover Norquist
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05-29-2017 , 09:54 AM
Boehner said he “never envisioned” Trump in the Oval Office, and while he said Trump “did what he could” with healthcare, his presidency still faces big problems.
“Everything else he’s done has been a complete disaster,” Boehner said. “He’s still learning how to be president.”

The former Speaker also hit back at some House Democrats’ calls for Trump’s impeachment.

“Talk of impeachment is the best way to rile up Trump supporters,” he said. “Remember, impeachment is not a legal process; it’s a political process.”
05-29-2017 , 09:58 AM
https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/sta...89169695911937

"It's really kind of perfect that Trump's conflict of interest hotel is directly across the street from Jeff Sessions' Justice Department."
05-29-2017 , 10:02 AM
05-29-2017 , 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
replace "cooperate" with "plead the 5th" and you have the reality for the near future.

      
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