This is the sentence we can't lose focus on. This isn't about taking down one man or one administration this is about destroying and making sure the seeds this guy planted don't grow. Those simpletons are the real problem.

loollllll I give up, this MFer is literally too stupid for me to try to understsnd anymore

What time is it in the Middle East?

Then you are part of the problem; so much for "your team" that you would vote in this guy who we well knew would be horrible like he has been; it's not like he pivoted from normal during campaign to shock us as president

Kinda. I mean, you're right of course, but also taking Trump and/or the administration out is a big hit to the party and would play a nice role in exposing its actual motives. A brand new Republican party is likely to emerge, with less support than now.

Yeah, obviously this.

But I'm Canadian and I've voted for 4 different parties so I don't really get the 'I'm ok with a mentally ill candidate as long as he's in my team' line of thinking.

To be honest, you would put party before country? Hmmmm...I guess I'm glad you were honest.

are u guys dumb or something, i suggest you learn to read.

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edit: or maybe not, im not sure tbh :S the thing is that he could have been a danger to the democracy but at the same time letting the gop win would be pretty bad, so not sure.

"I suggest that we add more dollars to Healthcare and make it the best anywhere"? What the eff is senile Trump babbling on about?

That's still a stupid thing to think. There's a reason many of us would prefer Pence to Trump as president even though Pence would probably be worse from a GOP policy point of view.

Mentally ill people like Trump shouldn't be President. Full stop. If the other party's candidate isn't severely mentally ill and your candidate is, you should absolutely vote for the other guy. How can you not be sure about this?

It was always obvious, but it is even moreso now, one thing people need to realize is the next Trump is gonna be about 100x smarter and more articulate.

The next one may not have the celebrity cult of personality but there is definitely a way to improve on the xenophobic, populist Trump platform.

This guys an idiot and he got in, this isn't going away.

jjshabado: ye i agree. i have it sometimes to view the gop as too repulsive but he is too unstable and we shouldnt have him.

Idk what a left wing Trump would mean. I'd think campaigning on Muslim ban, build that wall, lowering taxes on the rich, and dismantling environmental and labor protections to serve big corporations would prevent the candidate from winning the Democratic nom, but if he somehow got through anyway, I wouldn't vote for him, especially if left wing Trump carries the same general stupidity attendant on right wing Trump.

I would 100% have voted Jeb (R) vs Trump (D)

To add: Trump's worst qualities are non-partisan. He would still destroy the country (and possibly the planet) as a Democrat. Furthermore, the biggest evidence that party isn't as relevant is the fact that Republican policy has moved at a snail's pace since inauguration and is nearly frozen now.

Ya, but I assume med school interviews are similar in Canada and the US and doctors are probably similar too in terms of personality.

I've been thinking about this a bunch lately. Imagine how much more dangerous Trump would be if he were a little smarter, less greedy, more competent, and equally as sinister. We would all be extra super****ed.

Fortunately, if we don't end up in Holocaust centers, we will likely be able to detect and prevent a lot of this in the future because of experience from this episode. It would be similar to how Russia wasn't able to successfully influence the French election using the same tactics they used against us. Macron and possé learned from our stupidity.

to be clear, i was talking about a left-wing trump. i.e a trump that support things like single payer, support immigrants, minorities, climate, worker rights, minimum wage, all those things. but he would still be trump, so still dumb and still crazy. maybe he would want to build a tunnel to europe and have the koch brothers pay for it.

but like i said, i agree that its no good to have such a person in charge even if he was left wing. think i had a moment of weakness or something since im firmly aware that preserving democracy is more important than avoiding gop.

I disagree with this, but its an impossible thought experiment because his views are one of the things that make him so terrible and nobody with those "views" is winning a democratic primary. If somehow Trump won the democratic presidential primary on a racist populist platform based on getting tough on immigration, leaving Nato, cozying up to Russia, and being the orange idiot that he is with foreign affairs and the launch codes, but increasing the minimum wage and true infrastructure, and rescuing obamacare, I am voting for Jeb Bush, or Marco Rubio, or Chris Christie, before I"m voting for DJT on the dem ticket. I am confident there are a lot like me. Democratic DJT versus Ted Cruz is tough I'll admit, I guess I would have been one of those insufferable Johnson voters then.

Yeah, you could have a left wing Trump. Free healthcare that the banks are gonna pay for, stop fossil fuel production until we can find out what the heck is going on etc. It would be tough for him to win unless dems start actively repelling academics and people who know what they're talking about to the degree republicans have.

this is very well said.
Rest of the world will always have back in its mind the notion that half the USA is lunatic and that you cannot count on this country word.
It's gonna take a very long time before trust is reestablished,if ever.

I think left wing trump is a more socialist Bernie + super pro gun control + pro free trade. Let's also tack on collaborating w/ Russians, unabashedly corrupt, pussy-grabbing, and at least mildly demented.

And as unpalatable as it sounds, I'd vote for Ted Cruz over that.

Melkerson, the guy in your first sentence sounds pretty good.

I dunno, left wing Trump sounds kinda cool. I'd prob vote for him.

Telling CEO's on twitter he is going to seize their assets if they don't pay their fair share.