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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

01-31-2017 , 02:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
Good Lord, I take a break from the news for a few hours to manage my Kerbal space program and all heck breaks loose.

Can the legal scholars here explain if I'm correct: he fired his att'ny genr'l Nixon-style even though she was an acting official who was out the door anyway? He could have done noting and waited a bit and his boy Sessions would be running the show? Like by all appearances he's just willfully trying to draw comparisons with the Sat Night Massacre?
am a lawyer, definitely not a legal scholar.. but, she was out once the new ag was confirmed. Sessions likely will be tomorrow but it could have been longer. most likely him and his people thought of this as a way to show that they demand loyalty and as a warning to all to get in line.
01-31-2017 , 02:04 AM
I'd absolutely panic if Trump flipped to banning guns. It's pretty inconceivable really though. But if he did, I'd probably pack up and leave.
01-31-2017 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Hopefully it's more that Trump et al are incredibly stupid than that they are fascists.
Guess again.
01-31-2017 , 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
Yeah not gotcha question at all, just a question my pro-gun friend asked an anti-gun friend tonight, and he answered that his panic-meter would definitely rise a few notches, and I was curious what others thought.

Personally I would certainly be more concerned. Then again I am pretty upset at the moment so the shook-meter only has so much more room to move.
It's definitely an interesting question.

From a liberal prospective, Trump doing it would help because it would get the right to go against him. It would make it easier to get him out of office. At the same time, I think it's bat**** insane dopes on the right think everyone should have guns. You are more likely to be shot and killed by a toddler w/ a gun than a terrorist. But hey, lets ban Muslims!

My panic meter would definitely rise though because I simply do not trust Trump. It wouldn't rise if someone like Mike Pence or George W Bush called for stricter measures.
01-31-2017 , 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Slighted
most likely him and his people thought of this as a way to show that they demand loyalty and as a warning to all to get in line.
surely this will do nothing but the opposite.

but they arent the smartest of fascists
01-31-2017 , 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by sportsjefe
The firing isn't great, considering the WH could've just waited 18 hrs (Sessions is up tomorrow). It is legal, and completely within the WH's right... but that statement. That statement is what speaks volumes.
Yea Trump just can't let the slightest things go. No, he's got to accuse her of being disloyal to him and fire her even though her job is to be uphold the constitution.

I suspect Sally Yates knew this and was willing to take the hit knowing she was gone anyway.

I predict Sally Yates will be more famous in 100 years than she is now.
01-31-2017 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
I'd absolutely panic if Trump flipped to banning guns. It's pretty inconceivable really though. But if he did, I'd probably pack up and leave.
If Trump went for a total ban, I'd be optimistic, because it would be enough to flip his base. It is the only amendment they care about.

If it were a ban just for certain groups, I'm not so sure. It might still be enough to flip the base, but there may be enough so far gone that they won't care.
01-31-2017 , 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by dlk9s
The funny thing about the conspiracy theory that the protestors were paid actors is that there IS actual evidence that some people were paid to cheer for Trump at some rallies.
2 things:

1. Everything they say is propaganda, usually parroted from breitbart. Even the vague notion of being offended by being 'called _____ist' and saying 'this is why you lost' are not original honest thoughts.

2. It's almost all projection, either intentionally or inadvertently.


p.s. Good god I was grunching... Yeah, ~99.99% when you see some derp making the rounds there's a breitbart article behind it.

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Originally Posted by 57 On Red
Hammerin Hank was presumably referring to this article, credited to Aaron Klein, of Tel Aviv, on Breitbart.

http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2...ee-halt-order/

The curious thing about Breitbart is that it was originally founded to push the views of the Israeli right in the US because Andrew Breitbart thought the mainstream US media weren't sufficiently pro the Israeli right: a startling notion, but that's what he thought. There is a weird nexus between American neo-Nazis and the Israeli right because they both hate brown Muslims. At least, that's about the only sense one can make of the whole cluster****.
01-31-2017 , 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
Yeah not gotcha question at all, just a question my pro-gun friend asked an anti-gun friend tonight, and he answered that his panic-meter would definitely rise a few notches, and I was curious what others thought.

Personally I would certainly be more concerned. Then again I am pretty upset at the moment so the shook-meter only has so much more room to move.
Well it would definitely freak me out, but ultimately even an R that can grab pussies can't get away with taking their guns.
01-31-2017 , 02:19 AM
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Originally Posted by amurophil
This thread got me shook and spooked. Can't even grind now O_o
same here wtf
01-31-2017 , 02:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
OMG so confused can Simplicitus or one of the legal experts give us a brief rundown of WTF is happening with this country.
I like that poly sci profs argument. I think Trump is both operating from weakness, and guys like Miller or Bannon, who simplify the world through ideology and only acknowledge favorable facts just don't understand how something as complex as the executive branch works. Hell, you need a few years of law school to understand how the whole legislative/executive/judiciary works in practice (one of the harder classes in law school is "federal courts", then there's "administrative law" (the power and process of agencies and regulations), "legislation," etc.). I know John Yoo does a seminar on the presidency at Berkeley.

You probably need a PhD in poly sci to understand the executive branch, and Trump's got an over the hill conspiracy theorist boozer and a right winger who graduated from Dartmouth 10 years ago who has mainly been a ****ty speech writer for right wingers stoking resentment (not exactly a policy job).

I knew a lower lever guy who worked for Obama in one policy area, sharp guy, Stanford, Harvard law, and he only did his one little area. I don't think hardly anyone understands how the 17 separate intelligence agencies work together and sometimes overlap and sometimes don't.

Trump ran his business like a small business since he started, and he's always sucked at that, too many complex decisions he makes hastily without good data/info. He has no comprehension of the scope of the federal govt.

[Also, for solid discussion of the whole acting AG thing, check sport-itics.]

Last edited by simplicitus; 01-31-2017 at 02:32 AM.
01-31-2017 , 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
If Trump went for a total ban, I'd be optimistic, because it would be enough to flip his base. It is the only amendment they care about.

If it were a ban just for certain groups, I'm not so sure. It might still be enough to flip the base, but there may be enough so far gone that they won't care.
On the surface less guns is good, but when Trump's president something nefarious is going on.
01-31-2017 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by timotheeeee
This might be old man yells at cloud territory. If you're posting someone's BREAKING NEWS tweet or someone's twitter musings, a very short explanation of why I should trust or care about this source/opinion would be helpful. I have no idea what to think about the sarah kendzior's "we need to stop trump" tweetstorm (i will care more if she's in government than if she isn't). I've learned to disregard randos with BREAKING NEWS.
this please! had been thinking this very thing for months now but hadn't elaborated on it here
01-31-2017 , 02:27 AM
Prediction: Trump will get jealous of all the attention/credit Bannon is getting.
01-31-2017 , 02:28 AM
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Originally Posted by timotheeeee
This might be old man yells at cloud territory. If you're posting someone's BREAKING NEWS tweet or someone's twitter musings, a very short explanation of why I should trust or care about this source/opinion would be helpful. I have no idea what to think about the sarah kendzior's "we need to stop trump" tweetstorm (i will care more if she's in government than if she isn't). I've learned to disregard randos with BREAKING NEWS.
Her tweetstorm seems like BS to me. Bannon is smarter/more confident than Trump, but he has absolutely no idea what he is doing. He's stategerizing (made it up) but he doesn't know the rules of the game.
01-31-2017 , 02:30 AM
Can you imagine being in Yates shoes? Must have felt ****ing awesome.

Like your whole life led you to that exact moment to say fu trump in the name of a billion people around the world
01-31-2017 , 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
What the hell is the bolded? It's not a working website.
Probably supergrunching but it's this:

http://www.maketheroadny.org/

Make the Road New York (MRNY) builds the power of Latino and working class communities to achieve dignity and justice through organizing, policy innovation, transformative education, and survival services.



Yeah, Hank's that dumb and pathetic.
01-31-2017 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by m_reed05
Prediction: Trump will get jealous of all the attention/credit Bannon is getting.
"No puppet! No puppet!" *SNIFF*
01-31-2017 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
Can you imagine being in Yates shoes? Must have felt ****ing awesome.

Like your whole life led you to that exact moment to say fu trump in the name of a billion people around the world



Last edited by simplicitus; 01-31-2017 at 02:41 AM.
01-31-2017 , 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
If Trump went for a total ban, I'd be optimistic, because it would be enough to flip his base. It is the only amendment they care about.

If it were a ban just for certain groups, I'm not so sure. It might still be enough to flip the base, but there may be enough so far gone that they won't care.
Well, if the base dropped him immediately that'd be good. If they were all saying "it's just temporary, we'll get them back in no time, relax" it wouldn't be so good.
01-31-2017 , 02:36 AM
I got an email saying "Make Insurance Great Again!"
01-31-2017 , 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
Can you imagine being in Yates shoes? Must have felt ****ing awesome.

Like your whole life led you to that exact moment to say fu trump in the name of a billion people around the world
Too bad the timing's not right, she would make a perfect Dem Senate candidate in 18 in Georgia.
01-31-2017 , 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
Isn't it funny how those that complain about the gentle snowflakes on the left are the ones to be hurt by words?
Funnier is them wanting to literally turn the country into a safe space.
01-31-2017 , 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
Can you imagine being in Yates shoes? Must have felt ****ing awesome.

Like your whole life led you to that exact moment to say fu trump in the name of a billion people around the world
And become a national hero in the process. Her name will be printed in history books 100 years from now while cowards that refused to stand up to Trump will be a footnote.

It's almost like these idiots don't realize they are on the wrong side of history. Sally Yates is now synonymous with Susan B Anthony, Harriet Tubman, and Rosa Parks.
01-31-2017 , 02:48 AM
OK after a rough day this one made me laugh. It's nice to know that even as we get rounded up for the internment camps our meme game will be totally on point.


      
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