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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

05-26-2017 , 01:50 PM
awesome first comment, which one of you was it?

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We can only hope that someone has hacked (or will hack) them, and their properties, and every other part of this horribly ****ed up family and we get a treasure trove of secrets and data dumps that will show the world how utterly ****ty they are.

Also, the piss videos. Definitely the piss videos.
05-26-2017 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Losing all
Montana will always back a man willing to fight for what he believes in, fight for the people of Montana.





For those about to have just rocked the vote, I salute you.

Believing in assaulting a reporter for trying to ask a question?

Great belief that goes against our very first amendment


You are scum
05-26-2017 , 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
Apparently Comey acted on Russian intelligence he knew was fake

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/26/po...nce/index.html

Basically the intelligence said that Loretta Lynch was compromised in the investigation of Hillary's e-mails. Comey announced the end of the investigation without notifying Loretta Lynch. The fear was if the Russians released it themselves that to explain it away, Comey would have to give away intelligence sources and methods.

So this fake intelligence from Russia forced Comey to close the investigation publicly without it being completed. Then to cover his ass, he announced that he would reopen the previously incomplete investigation which tipped the election to Trump.

Diabolical
This just pretty much confirms that Comey was placed in an impossible position and I think was trying to do the right thing. I disagree with your interpretation that the investigation wasn't "complete" though, where are you getting that from?
05-26-2017 , 02:05 PM
"Russia, if you're listening..."

Hilarious how Eric is so emphatically denying that they were hacked. Like he would know 100% that they weren't. Like he would know at all, lol. Again, this Trump narrative that the IC deep state is everyone's enemy, while Daddy's untarnished brand name is looking out for the world. Despicable.

OR

Everything above is wrong and he just couldn't talk about it. EDIT: Except for the "Trump narrative" part, which is most def true.

Last edited by Our House; 05-26-2017 at 02:14 PM.
05-26-2017 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
But both you and I had agreed that many people would vote for Trump knowing that he would probably be worse than Clinton and that they would probably regret it, merely because he seemed to be offering pot odds that she wasn't. Why didn't those "smart and experienced people" see that".
Motivated dissonance, wishful thinking, people who rationally considered but discounted the effect of voters who would take the gamble, etc.
05-26-2017 , 02:20 PM
Wow, how often does this happen?

https://twitter.com/justin_kanew/sta...76368474628096
05-26-2017 , 02:24 PM
maybe their specialist skill at starting world wars can be used for good. i for one would back a german-led regime change effort

draft un resolution can go on about a corrupt and repressive regime propped up by the kremlin, i think we might be able to secure the votes
05-26-2017 , 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Wow, how often does this happen?

https://twitter.com/justin_kanew/sta...76368474628096
zee germans get it

05-26-2017 , 02:30 PM
We never had such incredible world peace than since Donald Trump got here.

Or his emboldened followers:

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"Cheer up, Snowflake," the post read, which included a photo of Black. "If Sheriff Clarke were to really harass you, you wouldn't be around to whine about it."
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/868111508676501505
05-26-2017 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by StimAbuser
‘The Germans are bad, very bad’: Trump pledges to ‘stop’ German car sales to US

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/the-...r-sales-to-us/



Jesus christ lol. Duterte is good, Erdogain is good, Kim Jong Un is smart, but the germans are bad.
If there is one country known for putting out consistently bad cars it must be Germany. Meanwhile trump has spent thirty years in a town car.
05-26-2017 , 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by jman220
This just pretty much confirms that Comey was placed in an impossible position and I think was trying to do the right thing. I disagree with your interpretation that the investigation wasn't "complete" though, where are you getting that from?
I still think there was no good reason for comey's pre-election announcement on Clinton. He made the choice and I still perceive it as a bad one that was wholly unnecessary but it certainly plays into the mystique of Jimmy C.
05-26-2017 , 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
"Russia, if you're listening..."

Hilarious how Eric is so emphatically denying that they were hacked. Like he would know 100% that they weren't. Like he would know at all, lol. Again, this Trump narrative that the IC deep state is everyone's enemy, while Daddy's untarnished brand name is looking out for the world. Despicable.

OR

Everything above is wrong and he just couldn't talk about it. EDIT: Except for the "Trump narrative" part, which is most def true.
Eric Trump has Eli Manning face.
05-26-2017 , 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
https://twitter.com/CNN/status/868085567082377216

It's OK to trust their definition of "able-bodied", right? How about their definitions of "slavery" and "theft" and even "class warfare" too?
When politicians say dumb stuff like that I know they have no idea how food stamps work, in almost all states.
05-26-2017 , 02:46 PM
Just read that the horrendous Trump budget also eliminates funding for Legal Services. "Millions will lose access to justice" according to AG Eric Schneiderman.
05-26-2017 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
Carrier is cutting 600+ jobs at the place Trump promised they wouldn't and the $16M they promised to invest is being invested in automation.
Anyone else want to form 2p2pol llc and Bren promise to keep a bunch of jobs from moving offshore? I feel like we could split up a decent chunk ofchange.
05-26-2017 , 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
But both you and I had agreed that many people would vote for Trump knowing that he would probably be worse than Clinton and that they would probably regret it, merely because he seemed to be offering pot odds that she wasn't. Why didn't those "smart and experienced people" see that".
I reject the premise that those people were smart and experienced. They may have thought they were angle shooting but neither smart nor experienced are acceptable words to describe someone who actually carefully weighed their options and chose Trump.
05-26-2017 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
I still think there was no good reason for comey's pre-election announcement on Clinton.
The reason was that he quietly told Congress and at least one of those weasels was going to leak the news out so Comey tried to get ahead of things by publicly announcing that there were new emails.

****ty situation either way but I think Comey handled it correctly.
05-26-2017 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
The reason was that he quietly told Congress and at least one of those weasels was going to leak the news out so Comey tried to get ahead of things by publicly announcing that there were new emails.

****ty situation either way but I think Comey handled it correctly.
I'm going tio stick,by my choice it was a bad decision., to be fair I didn't like comey long before the election stuff happened.
05-26-2017 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
I reject the premise that those people were smart and experienced. They may have thought they were angle shooting but neither smart nor experienced are acceptable words to describe someone who actually carefully weighed their options and chose Trump.
I don't think David's argument was necessarily that they were smart, just that they gambled.

See here in response to Peter Thiel's quote that the American political system didn't have enough corruption and that things were 'too boring'. I wrote this back in January:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...php?p=51518374

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This was more or less the rationale for lots of normal morons too. "Oh sure Hillary Clinton seems competent and experienced, but she just turns me off. That Trump guy, he's going to shake up the system!" Tons of voters just like yukking it up with Trump and thought he was a funny clown and normal politicians are so boring and trite and so this seems like a good idea and when pressed, just made some vague hand-waving allusions to how normal politicians are tedious and Trump is really going to do some unexpected crazy things and that will be so exciting.
My informal read is that plenty of people thought or think the median outcome of a Trump Presidency was incompetence or standard-fare, boring, mainstream politics but gambled he was going to make jobs and money fall from the sky and build the wall and make Mexico pay for it and all his other nonsense empty promises.

I don't want to put words in Sklansky's mouth here but think of Trump as the mediocre white person's political lottery ticket. Yeah he seems pretty unstable and might be corruptible or sell us down the river, but his promises sound outstanding, Hillary Clinton puts me to sleep with this boring stuff so: voting for Trump. They priced the downside risk as low because they're white and maybe older, on a fixed income, whatever, figured things couldn't ever get that bad for whites but maybe just maybe he'd do all the magical things he promised. It's not even a bad bet, right? Old angry whites DO have a ton of political leverage. The GOP is probably going to grift some from them but if **** gets really bad, they're gambling the authortarian jackboots will land on the young taking it to the streets and immigrants and black people first, or the pain will be felt by some foreigners we invade or bomb, or whoever, maybe the press will get clubbed, who knows, but ultimately the gamble is that old whites make that the political system go round, and the sytem will eventually genuflect to them and spare them any real downside. It is probably true enough?

Last edited by DVaut1; 05-26-2017 at 03:11 PM.
05-26-2017 , 03:07 PM
Lots of little newses today. I hope we still get a mother of all stories soon. It IS Friday.

Anyway, here's another small story that 1) Is really bad for us (but don't worry stupid ass Trumpbase, there's no evidence Russia is a threat), and 2) Provides a little more insight into Comey's Russian disinformation snafu:

https://twitter.com/WIRED/status/867784311134670851
05-26-2017 , 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House

Or his emboldened followers:
The article makes it seem like that wasn't a follower, that was Clark taunting the guy on Facebookin the third person. Barring a reading comprehension failure.
05-26-2017 , 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
Forget their definition of anything, they seem to not realize that 60% of recipients already are working.
Those sorts of statements are red meat for the base not any sort of factual description of reality. Subtly suggesting that most or all recipients don't work undermines public support for the program.
05-26-2017 , 03:38 PM
Looks like he did it again with JOBS! JOBS! JOBS! this time claiming he created millions of them while on this trip for 6 days.

Trump's latest jobs boast falls apart almost immediately

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The fact that Trump says untrue things isn't exactly new, but this morning offered a timely reminder that the president isn't even trying to sound credible anymore. In order for a lie to accepted, it has to be vaguely credible. It bothers me that Trump lies about job creation, but it bothers me more than Trump's lies are outrageously silly.

Is it too much to ask that the president put a little more thought into his dishonesty and not be so lazy about it?
LOL
05-26-2017 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by iron81
The article makes it seem like that wasn't a follower, that was Clark taunting the guy on Facebookin the third person. Barring a reading comprehension failure.
Not sure what you mean. Clarke is the emboldened Trump follower, and the article tells a lot more about Clarke's ******* character than just the little FB post I quoted.

Also, why is a Facebook taunt/threat from a powerful authority figure OK...especially after that whole police harassment incident?
05-26-2017 , 04:07 PM
I've modeled the current trends, and extrapolated our future: Clarke is going to be the 2024 Republican front-runner, and make us wistfully pine for the restraint and compassion of Trump. o_O

      
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