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05-26-2017 , 01:12 AM

#36051

batair

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Originally Posted by Losing all

Montana will always back a man willing to fight for what he believes in, fight for the people of Montana.

For those about to have just rocked the vote, I salute you.

He fights against the first amendment. MAGA.

05-26-2017 , 01:15 AM

#36052

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Fighting hard for what he believes in, and what he believes in is ducking questions about CBO.

He ducked that question for the good of Montanans everywhere.

05-26-2017 , 01:17 AM

#36053

Losing all

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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

Every election, no matter who the candidate is, we should be trotting out the Access Hollywood tape, Hastert molesting kids, poison water in Flint, the whole shebang. Every one of their politicians should carry the baggage of the entire party. And never let it go.

It's almost like you've never heard of John Edwards, or BLAGO (trump lite, more ******, more corrupt, worse hair, less of a wordsmith) or Weiner. Probably because you haven't.

05-26-2017 , 01:18 AM

#36054

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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

I want to see every ****ing blue state Democrat raising Cain over violent degenerate Gianforte. I want them to tell people in no unclear terms that the Republican agenda is a con job, and that it's important to vote for Dems always because we can't let them win.

This is so overlooked. Like in Georgia, Ossoff was linked in ads to Nancy Pelosi and ISIS. He's with them. It's morally bankrupt - ldo it's GOP - but a good strategy. Every election, no matter who the candidate is, we should be trotting out the Access Hollywood tape, Hastert molesting kids, poison water in Flint, the whole shebang. Every one of their politicians should carry the baggage of the entire party. And never let it go.

I think the message in 2018 is simple, you absolutely have to vote democrat to stop donald trump. That would rally a lot of the poorer more uneducated democrats who don't vote to go vote because they 100% hate Donald Trump. Give them hope that he can be stopped and impeached.

There are a lot more democrats than there are republicans, we just need to get them out to vote.

05-26-2017 , 01:20 AM

#36055

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Yea, people forget that John Edwards would have been POTUS if the election was like 2 years earlier. Dude was the Golden Child.

Honestly, half of these *******s running for office are corrupt. It's just a matter of how corrupt they are.

05-26-2017 , 01:21 AM

#36056

AllTheCheese

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Originally Posted by Losing all

It's almost like you've never heard of John Edwards, or BLAGO (trump lite, more ******, more corrupt, worse hair, less of a wordsmith) or Weiner. Probably because you haven't.

You missed my point (shocker). This stuff is talked about constantly by the right wing. Im talking about leveling the playing field.

05-26-2017 , 01:26 AM

#36057

Losing all

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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

You missed my point (shocker). This stuff is talked about constantly by the right wing. Im talking about leveling the playing field.

I missed your point because it was so dumb. So yeah tho, maybe now I'll here about Bush sucking FOR THE FIRST TIME herpherp mcDerp. Wait, was Cheney a bad gai 2?

You people are exausting

05-26-2017 , 01:27 AM

#36058

microbet

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Low stamina itt.

05-26-2017 , 01:27 AM

#36059

AllTheCheese

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Good use of "herp derp" and "gai."

05-26-2017 , 01:38 AM

#36060

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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

Good use of "herp derp" and "gai."

no points 4 the "2"?

05-26-2017 , 01:39 AM

#36061

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i thought bad gai 2 was the sequel to the naughtiest gay porn of this decade

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05-26-2017 , 01:41 AM

#36062

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Originally Posted by StimAbuser

Trump should be a big part of the attack, but not everything. He should be painted as the star on top of a tree of garbage. There's a danger of turning out the young voters to get rid of Trump, and then in future elections, they just stay home now that "the Republic is saved." Like def don't want "our work here is done," to be a common sentiment among Dem voters once Trump is out of office.

ETA: Also a lot of standard GOP types who have similar policy agendas as the Trump WH distance themselves from Trump the man, and depending on demographics, even say things like they'll vote against the President if it's not good for the state or against their principles or w/e.

Like a good example of where the pinning-it-all-on-Trump strategy goes wrong is with someone like uDevil's Arizona rep Andy Biggs, who doesn't particularly align with Trump, but it's because he's even more extreme (ly terrible) on certain issues like healthcare than the President. Dems need to turn out in force against guys like him.

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05-26-2017 , 01:45 AM

#36063

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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

Yeah good point. I like the idea.

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05-26-2017 , 01:56 AM

#36064

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Originally Posted by RV Life

In addition, it should come as no surprise that the GOP wants to suppress education. They need white people to push minorities down in order to advance their agenda. Hence, the war on drugs, science and education.

I agree with this, but the goal is to also push the dumb white people down. Those who vote against their own interests because they believe GOP bull****. Seriously... How many small town white racist Americans is Trump or the GOP agenda gonna help? Answer: None!

05-26-2017 , 02:09 AM

#36065

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It's always amazing when Losing All talks down to anybody. It's basically like when Trump does it, everyone instantly tilts their head and lowers a brow.

In 2018 it should be way more than Trump. Show all the GOP politicians celebrating taking healthcare away from millions. Show a coal miner. Then show a sick coal miner without health insurance. Then show the GOP celebrating.

05-26-2017 , 02:22 AM

#36066

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lestat

The problem is (and I know this first hand) that poor white Americans blame poor black people for their problems. They cannot admit they are poor or at the same level as poor black people. So when a politician says "We need to get rid of welfare!" they see it as the politician saying "Black people need to stop depending on welfare." and vote against their own self interests.

It is very hard for a poor white person to come to terms with the fact that they are at the same economic level as a poor black person.

05-26-2017 , 02:27 AM

#36067

RV Life

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In the end, Trump is screwed because young people hate "older things". By the time current 14-15 year olds are old enough to vote, Trump will have been mainstream for 6 years. Even 15 year old GOP mini cucks will hate Trump in 2020. It would be like signing up for AOL or Myspace. Hell, kids that age hate Facebook already. Trump's gonna be old news in 2020.

05-26-2017 , 02:40 AM

#36068

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Nah man - we're gonna be in a war by 2020. Can't change horses midstream. Republicans know the playbook.

Oh for the love of god why is -str eam blocked?

05-26-2017 , 02:43 AM

#36069

Minirra

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

They'll be old enough to vote in 2020, but more than half won't

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05-26-2017 , 05:49 AM

#36070

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Nah man - we're gonna be in a war by 2020. Can't change horses midstream. Republicans know the playbook.

Pretty much this. So many ways too. Things are all overblown with Trump in office and several of them are coming to a head soon. North Korea alone is inevitable before 2020.

05-26-2017 , 05:52 AM

#36071

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Let's not kid ourselves either, and ignore the basically inevitable civil war that will erupt if Trump gets evicted as well.

05-26-2017 , 06:03 AM

#36072

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Originally Posted by fatkid

Come to daddy

I

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YOUR

SOUL

05-26-2017 , 06:42 AM

#36073

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Originally Posted by einbert

I've found the current season of Fargo to be highly interesting with regards to this dynamic:

You might want to watch the BBC Docu Hyper Normalization

Quote:

HyperNormalisation is a 2016 BBC documentary by British filmmaker Adam Curtis. In the film, Curtis argues that since the 1970s, governments, financiers, and technological utopians have given up on the complex "real world" and built a simple "fake world" that is run by corporations and kept stable by politicians. The film was released on 16 October 2016 on the BBC iPlayer.[2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HyperNormalisation

05-26-2017 , 07:06 AM

#36074

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Everybody jokes about how future Trump is always popping in with tweets that come true. However, if we look at the remaining tweets that haven't come true yet, it's a wake up call to stop laughing because the joke's on us. This **** is no longer funny.