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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

05-25-2017 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by zikzak
That seems like a bit of an overreaction to NBC having exclusive confirmation of a story.
Yeah thread is full of wolves atm
05-25-2017 , 07:54 PM
Or they could just read the ****ing 14th amendment
05-25-2017 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
Looool Muslim ban. Apparently the defense and some of the dissenters from the majority argued that if we take Trump's campaign statements into account, then we could end up going back to his past in business and even statements from college! Where does it end? Boy oh boy that slope sure is slippery!
Completely lost on these dullards is the alternative: Nothing a politician utters matters, ever.
05-25-2017 , 07:55 PM
What time do results start coming out in Montana?
05-25-2017 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
Having watched Trump's embarrassing performance today, I think it's high time NATO seriously considered expelling the US. It's unfortunate that the majority of the country is clearly appalled at their president's behaviour, but he's deliberately undermining the alliance at every available opportunity and his administration is arguably the second greatest current threat to world peace behind ISIS. The civilised world ought to stand together and shun the US until this toxic POS is removed from office.
I'm starting to think this is the only play for the rest of the world. We need to basically ostracize the US until this cancerous administration is removed by whatever means.
05-25-2017 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
It'd be nice if one place just reported truth without clearly being in someone's pocket/agenda. Or stopped straight up lying with exclusives of things reported awhile ago (isn't just nbc, they've all done it).

Everyone's pushing some sort of total bull****. The media sucks so much many people are happy (anyone wanna bet on the %) if they got punched in the face even when it's clearly not warranted.

I'm sad at what's happened to us and it's only gonna get worse from here. They won't change and we won't either, most people in this country now actually believe total nonsense, left and right.

How big did the tabloids that said crap like elvis kidnapped by UFO's ever get? I have no baseline in comparing that to today's ridic stuff.

I guess we can take some solace that many people insisted there was no evidence with nixon even as he resigned, and that we've had a super narcisstic pres before and survived, and a businessman running the country into a hell hole and survived, and a complete nut who hated the judiciary and a native american ban and survived but god damn are we really gonna survive all of that at the same time?
I disagree with much of this. "The Media" is better now than it's ever been, but only if you're a savvy consumer. Since the advent of the written word journalism has been bastardized massively in order to influence public opinion in the direction of what conglomerates/pols want. Hearst built an empire on it, but he was by no means the first.

What scares me is the notion that now not only can facts be spun in any direction (like always) but we have a huge % of our population who can't (or won't) even grasp what the facts even are.
05-25-2017 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 425kid
What time do results start coming out in Montana?
Polls close at 10:00 PM EDT. Results are expected to be slow, expect a long night if it's close.
05-25-2017 , 08:03 PM
05-25-2017 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
These lawyers know nothing about trademark law. I would not allow my name to be signed to that letter.

Edit: comments suggest letter is a fake. (Perhaps sent as a fake to the author.)
That's what it seems like. If I remember Trump did send out a similar letter previous to being president. Someone must have gotten the letter and did a photoshop job with the updated info or simply faked the whole thing.
05-25-2017 , 08:06 PM
How fast do you think Trump would throw his SiL under the bus? It'd be a funny look having Kushner in jail while Trump is Prez.

Last edited by Dominic; 05-25-2017 at 08:23 PM.
05-25-2017 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
How fast do you think Trump would throw his SiL under the buss? It'd be a funny look having Kushner in jail while Trump is Prez.
He would throw his wife and all his children under the bus. He is a pure narcissist. He cares about thing on earth, himself. Nothing else matters in any way.
05-25-2017 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
How fast do you think Trump would throw his SiL under the buss? It'd be a funny look having Kushner in jail while Trump is Prez.
I hate to say something that could be construed as praise for Trump, but I think his immediate family (Jared too) is safe. If Jared is going to go down, I think Trump is sure to try to commit some kind of massive unconstitutional power overreach prevent it.
05-25-2017 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bigt2k4
Screw you, as someone from Toronto who thought Ford is an idiot I believe his name belongs nowhere Trump's. He was an extraordinarily hard worker who dedicated his life to the public. He thought being a public servant was about hard work and little reward and he was immune to any sort of corruption. The US should be so lucky to have that idiot as their current president


Rob Ford is absolutely an apt comparison. He once railed about Government waste because staff were watering plants at city hall... except the problem being that the plants were fake and nobody watered them.

Rob Ford thought rules shouldn't apply to him. Was vastly under qualified for his job. Refused to acknowledge basic facts that were inconvenient to his position and was a compulsive liar. Oh, he also was at least somewhat racist/homophobic.

And the idea of him being immune to corruption is blatant bull****. He frequently misused city resources for his personal life and his family business.

Edit: Oh and of course Ford was well known for attacking the media when they were accurately portraying many of his scandals.
05-25-2017 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
He would throw his wife and all his children under the bus. He is a pure narcissist. He cares about thing on earth, himself. Nothing else matters in any way.
Just trivial speculation here of course: I think Melania could be cut loose pretty easy, but not his kids aside from Tiffany.
05-25-2017 , 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
He would throw his wife and all his children under the bus. He is a pure narcissist. He cares about thing on earth, himself. Nothing else matters in any way.
Maybe not Ivanka.

Remember when america lost soldiers fighting to save europe, and now trump's just like **** europe and people are supporting that?

I think trump will at first try to save Jared too without any regard for laws as microbet said.
05-25-2017 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
Rob Ford is absolutely an apt comparison. He once railed about Government waste because staff were watering plants at city hall... except the problem being that the plants were fake and nobody watered them.

Rob Ford thought rules shouldn't apply to him. Was vastly under qualified for his job. Refused to acknowledge basic facts that were inconvenient to his position and was a compulsive liar. Oh, he also was at least somewhat racist/homophobic.

And the idea of him being immune to corruption is blatant bull****. He frequently misused city resources for his personal life and his family business.
I didn't really follow this, but did you bury the lead or are you really going with the plant watering thing?
05-25-2017 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
It'd be nice if one place just reported truth without clearly being in someone's pocket/agenda. Or stopped straight up lying with exclusives of things reported awhile ago (isn't just nbc, they've all done it).

Everyone's pushing some sort of total bull****. The media sucks so much many people are happy (anyone wanna bet on the %) if they got punched in the face even when it's clearly not warranted.

I'm sad at what's happened to us and it's only gonna get worse from here. They won't change and we won't either, most people in this country now actually believe total nonsense, left and right.

How big did the tabloids that said crap like elvis kidnapped by UFO's ever get? I have no baseline in comparing that to today's ridic stuff.

I guess we can take some solace that many people insisted there was no evidence with nixon even as he resigned, and that we've had a super narcisstic pres before and survived, and a businessman running the country into a hell hole and survived, and a complete nut who hated the judiciary and a native american ban and survived but god damn are we really gonna survive all of that at the same time?
05-25-2017 , 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
Maybe not Ivanka.
He'll need her to repopulate the Earth once he destroys nearly all of us.

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05-25-2017 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by jjshabado
Rob Ford is absolutely an apt comparison. He once railed about Government waste because staff were watering plants at city hall... except the problem being that the plants were fake and nobody watered them.

Rob Ford thought rules shouldn't apply to him. Was vastly under qualified for his job. Refused to acknowledge basic facts that were inconvenient to his position and was a compulsive liar. Oh, he also was at least somewhat racist/homophobic.

And the idea of him being immune to corruption is blatant bull****. He frequently misused city resources for his personal life and his family business.
He isn't an apt comparison. He didn't go from reality show > office. He went from office > office. He at least had some sense of protocol unlike Trump from his previous office. I cannot recall him making inflammatory comments that even come close to what Trump said on the campaign trail. Maybe you could compare him to some GOP member, but not Trump. He was also a heckuva lot younger than Trump.

The two bare little resemblance of one another as politicians other than that they created sideshows.
05-25-2017 , 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
How fast do you think Trump would throw his SiL under the buss? It'd be a funny look having Kushner in jail while Trump is Prez.
Is it too much to ask for one of these treasonous cock pumpers to be led out in cuffs?
05-25-2017 , 08:25 PM
The real funny part is Chris Christie tried his best to hitch his fat ass to the Trump Train. And this is AFTER he threw Kushner's father in jail.
05-25-2017 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
I didn't really follow this, but did you bury the lead or are you really going with the plant watering thing?


Hah, I buried the lead. I was just going to start with the anecdote about how clueless and dumb Ford was, but the more I started thinking about him the more I remembered how horrible he was as a politician.
05-25-2017 , 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
It'd be nice if one place just reported truth without clearly being in someone's pocket/agenda. Or stopped straight up lying with exclusives of things reported awhile ago (isn't just nbc, they've all done it).

Everyone's pushing some sort of total bull****. The media sucks so much many people are happy (anyone wanna bet on the %) if they got punched in the face even when it's clearly not warranted.
This is ridiculous. The media has been the absolute strongest check on Trumps incompetence and inability to lawfully execute his office. The Washington Post got a compromised national security advisor fired and news of the Comey memos and other reporting has forced an independent investigation of the whole administration.
05-25-2017 , 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Pretty sure everyone on this forum knows that, because it's common sense.
I'm not at all sure about that and even if true, it's much easier said than done. Not sure how many times you've been under arrest, but cops have all kinds of methods of putting a ton of pressure on you and I'm not even talking about physical stuff.

I'd be willing to bet that a well played good cop/bad cop interrogation would have most people talking or saying things they shouldn't. It's not so easy to lawyer up. Especially after hours when you're almost certainly looking at spending the night or getting transferred to county.
05-25-2017 , 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul D
He isn't an apt comparison. He didn't go from reality show > office. He went from office > office. He at least had some sense of protocol unlike Trump from his previous office. I cannot recall him making inflammatory comments that even come close to what Trump said on the campaign trail. Maybe you could compare him to some GOP member, but not Trump. He was also a heckuva lot younger than Trump.

The two bare little resemblance of one another as politicians other than that they created sideshows.


Just because he's not a perfect copy of Trump doesn't mean it's not an apt comparison.

Edit: My post is full of ways the two were cut from the same cloth.

      
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