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05-25-2017 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
i guess standing up to ignorant politicians isn't as easy as he thought
I really was happy with the McMasters pick but he has been one of the most disappointing based on my actual expectations. The whole thing is such a clown show it's not surprising nobody does anything even a slight bit competently.

I still can't wrap my mind around the idea that nobody has resigned just to get out. It seems improbable. Although giving how information is managed by the administration I suspect every single one of them could potentially be on the hook for one conspiracy or another.
05-25-2017 , 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
Both sides of my jaw were shattered and I had extensive damage. I agree on its face its sound crazy but it emphasized at me at a young age that adults fighting is extremely stupid because extreme stuff can happen.

My impression is he was well known by the police and had an extensive history. I do suspect race/class and protecting tourism played a role. This was on the island of Kauai and my family owned several condominiums at a very high end complex there. Certainly none of that worked in his favor. I never even had to testify at his trial, in fact I think it was plead out which means there might have been other things I was not aware of at the time. This was over 20 years ago so I don't know how much different things were back then.

Personally outside of having massive dental work and multiple surgeries and a numb bottom lip for ten years it didn't really cause me any psychological harm from the standpoint that I get worried or scared. Like I said probably my biggest take away is people should never fight, it's s horrible idea and it's not manly. Lots of bad stuff can happen and you might even get yourself shot.

That is why what happened in Montana was so silly. If something went horribly wrong and the guy cracked his head on the edge of something he could be facing manslaughter. Why? Because a reporter was asking him questions?
Any chance I could get a small loan?
05-25-2017 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
I really was happy with the McMasters pick but he has been one of the most disappointing based on my actual expectations. The whole thing is such a clown show it's not surprising nobody does anything even a slight bit competently.

I still can't wrap my mind around the idea that nobody has resigned just to get out. It seems improbable. Although giving how information is managed by the administration I suspect every single one of them could potentially be on the hook for one conspiracy or another.
Well McMaster would have to resign his commission, he's still active duty military so he can't just quit.
05-25-2017 , 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by otatop
Just imagine if they had bothered spending any ****ing money on this race.
They spent a ton of money. If you think it should have been spent earlier, fine. But they ended up spending a lot, especially for Montana.
05-25-2017 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Sighsalot
Three White House officials told The Daily Beast that Chief of Staff Reince Priebus has privately expressed worry about a possible Comey memo specifically involving one of their reported chats, and how it might play in the press and to investigators. ...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/54457e0...-sweating.html
Lololol

Comey is going to end up being the most interesting character in this whole fiasco.
05-25-2017 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
I really was happy with the McMasters pick but he has been one of the most disappointing based on my actual expectations. The whole thing is such a clown show it's not surprising nobody does anything even a slight bit competently.

I still can't wrap my mind around the idea that nobody has resigned just to get out. It seems improbable. Although giving how information is managed by the administration I suspect every single one of them could potentially be on the hook for one conspiracy or another.
It's a bad career move to jump at this point. The Republican machine out there will reward loyalty with high paying gigs down the road, but first you have to walk the tightrope of working for a guy who could bring you down with him (or outright throw you under the bus at any time -- see Christie, Chris) in order to get there. The longer you can hold out the better the chances you'll land a sweet gig with a think tank or 'consulting' firm. Or you'll end up in federal prison for OoJ. Trade offs.
05-25-2017 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre
As much as I enjoy the prospect of Hannity being fired I am a little bit worried that Trumpkins might also start pressuring advertisers.
Every time they try they fail. Remember how their plan to get back at starbucks was to buy drinks but say their name was Donald Trump then get mad if people wouldn't write his name?
I can't remember the other examples, but the alt right morons are too dumb to accomplish this.
05-25-2017 , 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert

https://twitter.com/michaelcrowley/s...77125901795329
This is the frustrating thing with me still when talking to people who supported trump or are indifferent many simply live in denial when it comes to Russia and Putin.

People saying things like "lol people act like it's the 1980s". Yeah it actually is because that is where Putin came from and where he wants to go. The obliviousness to Putin and his ambitions is dumbfounding to me. I have discussed before how this was an issue I found troubling for years now with people minimializing the threat Putin poses.

When it comes to global threats it is Putin 1) and then everyone else is down at like thirtieth place. Considering Kim Jung Il a bigger threat than Putin is craziness. Or Iran or anyone else.

Maybe the reality is most people wouldn't recognize someone who really was mastering 4D chess even if it was beaten into their thoughts every day. That is why it is so insane the Trump campaign and administration had such a ridiculously huge number of weird connections to Russia that aren't just due to randomness.

It is not like the US has always had the best people as presidents. But even during those times we had others in the administration and/or congress who were competent and capable. This may be the first time we are completely devoid of ANY competency from anyone with the ability to do anything. This is scary stuff for us and for the rest of the world. Anyone who doesn't think Putin will capitalize on this bigly is living in a fantasy land.
05-25-2017 , 03:27 PM
Gianforte winning by 5 isn't a good sign for dems, gianforte lost gov same time trump won by 20.

Quist basically ran on bernie's platform and still lost a winnable race. Dems as a party are moving farther to the left but america kinda isn't. Dems are gonna pick up seats, but I haven't seen anything that suggests they'll do enough to take back the house, and that's what they need to do.
05-25-2017 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
ONE TIME



lol this ****in snowflake

I have never been a huge boycott guy but the entire Fox News episode has been one of the most shining beacons in all this because it gives hope and believe that real sane people with money to spend are fed up and having a dramatic effect. It makes me feel like it's not just a bunch of us yelling into the wind.

It is also amusing that the right wing nutters who have tried to create retaliatory boycotts have almost universally failed. At the end of the day money still spins most of the gears and this particular battle has been one-sided. I would love to see Hannity kicked to the curb because he completely lacks any integrity.

Another note is it tells you there are at least a good number of corporations that aren't blindly going to support this cluster as it continues to spin out of control and greatly divides the country. But Trump declared war on the media too bad his favorite outlet is taking the most damage.
05-25-2017 , 03:35 PM
gianforte is winning?
05-25-2017 , 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Yep. This is classic. Is Sessions initiating any steps against the PRESIDENT too, or is the UK a better ally than Israel was last week?

https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/stat...96203177725953
When I first read about the US was the source of the leaked name I assumed, and still do, think it was a Trump loyalist and not some kind of IC payback. It doesn't make sense from that angle. Makes much more sense that someone who learned information leaked it to media to curry favor. Not really something a seasoned intelligence agent would do given the circumstances.
05-25-2017 , 03:41 PM
Breitbart published a story with Ossoff currently with a 7 point polling lead in Georgia
05-25-2017 , 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
Gianforte winning by 5 isn't a good sign for dems, gianforte lost gov same time trump won by 20.

Quist basically ran on bernie's platform and still lost a winnable race. Dems as a party are moving farther to the left but america kinda isn't. Dems are gonna pick up seats, but I haven't seen anything that suggests they'll do enough to take back the house, and that's what they need to do.
Absolutely nobody would consider Montana a winnable race for the dems. Anything close to victory far exceeds expectations
05-25-2017 , 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
gianforte is winning?
Montana is a huge early voting state, 2/3 of the vote was cast before the incident.
05-25-2017 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by jman220
Jeez, if they can't win in the fourth circuit, which includes such liberal bastions as North Carolina, South Carolina, and West Virginia, then Trump is in trouble.
Just another area where Trump proved he was an idiot. Outside of stiffing his lawyers his understanding of the justice system and the role judges play in it was at pre-k levels. So not understanding judges both wield quite a bit of independent power and are also human beings he insulted pretty much all of them over and over again. It's simply not possible for even the most straight arrowed jurist to not be impacted by those things.

I am not saying courts are making rulings to spite trump but he will never get the benefit of the doubt, leniancy of leeway.

I still don't know what part of the job of president trump voters thought he was qualified to do before the election.
05-25-2017 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
Gianforte winning by 5 isn't a good sign for dems
lol wut
05-25-2017 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Last I read he was still peddling it on his radio show which is not affiliated with Fox
Here is his profile page for what I assume is the company who syndicates his radio show.

http://www.premierenetworks.com/Page...nity-Show.aspx
05-25-2017 , 03:51 PM
My brother lives in Montana. He swears people there are a lot more liberal than people think.
05-25-2017 , 03:54 PM
I gotta say, that video of Trump pushing that guy away has seemed to rile up Trumpkins. Seeing a lot of comments about how we need to focus on important things. Yea, b/c diplo relationships aren't important. Never change Trumpkins, never change.
05-25-2017 , 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
Gianforte winning by 5 isn't a good sign for dems, gianforte lost gov same time trump won by 20.

Quist basically ran on bernie's platform and still lost a winnable race. Dems as a party are moving farther to the left but america kinda isn't. Dems are gonna pick up seats, but I haven't seen anything that suggests they'll do enough to take back the house, and that's what they need to do.
This isn't a great post.
05-25-2017 , 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jman220
News agencies don't hold onto bombshells like this, they risk being scooped by another news organization.
IC institutions don't have to worry about getting scooped. They'll release bombs when they damn well choose.
05-25-2017 , 04:29 PM
Oh so republicans like early voting when it's white people doing it

Hmm
05-25-2017 , 04:31 PM
https://twitter.com/AkbarSAhmed/stat...63108273639424



Trump reminds me of Rob Ford, the crackhead mayor from Toronto. He has no idea how to socialize with people, he's just ****ing miserable.
05-25-2017 , 04:33 PM
I think the Brennen testimony was more interesting than it gets credit for. His comment about not realizing one is committing treason until too far down the road is instructive. A lot of things revolve around Flynn, and there is definitely some fire there, but I think that Manafort may be a bigger fish. You don't get paid $10M for your work on behalf of Putin allies and not "owe" some favors, including money-laundering and helping run Trump's campaign in a manner that is in Russia's interest (at no cost, not his normal MO). Flynn is dumb and maybe dirty, Manafort is dirty as hell.

God, I'd love to see Reince go to jail for obstruction, or anything really. Republicans still go on about things like Whitewater and Vince Foster. What about the goddam Speaker of the House paying millions in hush money to people he molested as kids? Don't hear much about the "Hastert Rule" these days. I wonder if they've rebranded it.

I think the GOP has finally been backed into the corner on their bull****. Yester Mulvaney wouldn't commit to raising the debt ceiling. We all know how well brinkmanship in negotiation ends up working out for Trump. Fact is, you can't do tax cuts to the rich and not seriously cut programs while being anywhere near budget neutral. They have to either cave on revenue for their donor base or deliver a budget/legislation that every non-dues-paying Heritage Foundation member hates.

The tragic death of the GOP is playing itself out, but they will not go gently into that good night. Their desperation move was rolling the dice on the Reaganesque deal-maker Trump, and it's coming up snake eyes. You can't always lockbox out of bad play.

Last edited by simplicitus; 05-25-2017 at 04:39 PM.

      
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