They will eventually. Right now IMO they are holding it back from everyone (except for the special counsel maybe) until they have enough to start recommending prosecutions, or to secure some testimonies. There could be a lot of reasons that letting Trump know at this time compromises several investigations.

One thing I'm sure they're having trouble dealing with is GOP loyalists who may go running back to Trump with whatever they find out.

can anyone give me an idea if those stricts the democrats won today mean anything?

To add: It's pretty clear that the committees aren't privy to everything FBI has so far. For instance, they don't seem to know nearly as much about the Steele dossier or about intel collected in Europe last year and passed on to the Obama administration. They also weren't aware of the Comey memos or the Coats/Rogers obstruction conversations until recently.

So who knows the whole story?

The committee don't know sh*t and don't want to find anything out. Not to worry though, FBI will take him down. There's no way there isn't more damaging info coming down the pipeline. The most telling thing was when trump recently said something among the lines that i can only speak to myself that there no was no collusion between russia. He isn't smart enough to have shielded himself from any illegal acts.

I sure hope so. This may sound weird, but I have more faith in the FBI probe(s) than I do in the special counsel thingy. Everybody (on all sides) is WAY too happy about Mueller and it's not passing the smell test.

And this is why I think we're all dreaming to think he'll ever get impeached. It's all too believable that he was too stupid and oblivious to everything going on around him to have intentionally committed a criminal act. Unless there are actual tapes of him giving orders for some treasonous act, I think he's practically untouchable.

On the other hand, Flynn's going to jail. And probably quite a few others as well.

You are missing the point. It doesn't really matter if a Dem is in the White House or what happens on Fox News. American society in general has been drifting towards more socially liberal positions for a long time. Sure, Trump united a whole lot of racist ****bags and ignorant twits, but a lot more Americans have put their foot down on issues that our society wouldn't have accepted in the past.

I think they also will pretend not to know info from classified reports when it helps their case.

Jason Miller (Trump guy) on CNN said something like this tonight...

"I'm sure Democrats saw some silver lining in today's hearing. Bottom line, we gotta get these investigations off the hill. The special counsel will do a great job."

You're not supposed to root for suppressing info out loud, dumbass!

I thought any FBI probes got folded into Mueller's thing?

The fact that Trump loyalists are scattered around and the FBI knows it, but not who all of them are, is a giant monkey wrench.

Hmmm...I was under the impression that the data got passed over to Mueller & team, but all the investigations remain in place.

+1. Why the **** are dems and reps agreeing on Mueller? They can't both be right, right?

I don't see any reason to not trust this guy or not be thrilled with this devolopment. Clearly trump's plan was to hire one of his best buds to FBI director and make this whole thing go away. He's still going to do this but now he's pissed of the IC with his complete disregard for classified Intel to the Russians, previously called them nazis, and fired Comey.

The major problem is these special counsel investigations can take years. It will be a good sign if comey doesn't testify before the senate committee as comey requested he meet with mueller before he did so. Likely reason being he has further damming evidence and doesn't want to compromise any of his testimony.

I think it's more like Trump didn't commit crimes knowing he committed a crime. If you listen to what Brennan said today, he's basically like "people can go down the path of treason without knowing they are going down the path of treason."

Someone ITT posted a video earlier of why you should never talk to the police. In that video, the lawyer talks about how carrying a lobster can be considered a crime. But how many people know that's a crime? But that's why you need a lawyer.

I think this is where Trump falls in. He's committing crimes but he's the guy that is unaware the things that he's doing are crimes. I think that's why he gets pissed off so easily. He'll say something like "There was no collusion!" Yea, maybe you don't think there was collusion, but it's not up to you to decide that. Ignorance is not an excuse in a court of law. Add in the fact that he's used to throwing money or lawyers to make problems disappear and you can see why Trump is making so many mistakes.

One last item to go with the mini-chain of posts.

Did anyone see the WH statement today? From memory, "Today's hearing proved what we've always been saying. There is no evidence of collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign."

Aside from the obvious word twisting and general stupidity of demeaning their own credibility, the phrasing seems kind of weird coming from the person who is supposed to be the only one knowing the whole truth. I'm probably reading too much into the words, but it just seems the use of "evidence of" is wrong from the WH's or Trump's point of view.

Reading too much into it. gotta give something to the trumpkins to stay the course and not believe daddy trump is a traitor.

I get what you are saying, if he's innocent then they don't need to constantly twist statements to conform to their reality. If you are innocent, you don't write in the letter firing an FBI director than on 3 separate occasions he was told there was no investigation. If you are innocent you don't say, that guy comey was real nutjob, that whole russia thing was a major problem, now the pressure is off.

If Mueller doesn't pass the smell test, who does? I can't think of a better person for the job. Everyone's* happy because this has moved out of the partisan House/Senate inquiry stage which is clearly not productive. Your typical right-winger is happy because they think this Russia thing is all a bunch of liberal media nonsense, because Fox says so, and so they expect vindication and more material to lol liberals with. The left are happy to see that this effort (probably) isn't going to be snuffed out because Trump doesn't like it, and that this "Trump investigation" is something that's going to be regular news for a good long while.

*But when you say "everyone," I'm confident that Trump and some of his connections aren't happy with this choice at all. Not just because of the singular issue of Russian interference and possible collusion, but the spotlight that's about to shine on many of their activities and relationships in the process. They can't use goons like Gowdy and King to run interference for them. They're getting looked at by pretty much the best qualified person there is to do the job.

Of course I can't rule out that this too doesn't get quashed, I understand there are mechanisms to do so, but any of those would force Trump to do so very openly and aggressively (and would not necessarily succeed).

wtf is kim.com?

Some German guy who claims to have evidence about the death of Seth Rich.

He's also wanted in the US for software piracy and has a long history of shady stuff, including plagiarism. But republicans are totally buying him this time.

LOOL Hannity

Dom,

He's basically a POS and walking heart attack. Best known as a hacker and then again for starting Megaupload and a bunch of piracy-related issues. He got shut down and basically gutted financially, for zillions, currently fighting extradition to the US that seems likely to happen.

Has a major axe to grind with US Democrats, who tend to be tightly aligned with the film studios and record companies who went after him. He's also angling hard for Trump support because he's desperate and everything he says as bull****, and he has enough name to feed BS to him. Not even good enough for Fox, but still good enough for Sean Hannity to stand behind.

I mean I get Hannity is a **** stirrer, but how the **** is dijon and spicy mustard anything out of the normal range of condiments? lol