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05-23-2017 , 01:38 PM

#35076

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ASAP17

Do you honestly believe it's as simple as sending a guy on a plane? Lmao please.

How hard is it to send a guy and have him plow a truck into a crowd? Or buy an AR-15 and kill a bunch of people? Both are trivially easy. Or just recruit someone in the US.

It's laughable that this isn't happening solely because of our intelligence agencies. Whatever helps you sleep at night. They might catch some, but they could never catch all.

05-23-2017 , 01:42 PM

#35077

Max Cut

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Quote:

Originally Posted by LFS

but the orb tho

also his wife hates him

https://twitter.com/DaniellaMicaela/...57615926435841

05-23-2017 , 01:42 PM

#35078

ASAP17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

How hard is it to send a guy and have him plow a truck into a crowd? Or buy an AR-15 and kill a bunch of people? Both are trivially easy.

That's different from what he suggested of ISIS sending someone from an area under intense scrutiny on a plane to America to commit an attack especially from a commander within ISIS. Their manifesto specifically states for their soldiers to do just that. Go into a market and shoot a bunch of people or run em down with a truck specifically. Many of the attacks are from people self radicialized just like any mass shooter. ISIS claims responsibility to every attack that looks like they may be involved as a recruiting tool. Many have turned out that they had no prior contact or instruction from ISIS.

05-23-2017 , 01:43 PM

#35079

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ASAP17

Do you honestly believe it's as simple as sending a guy on a plane? Lmao please.

It is, but the problem (and it's a good thing) is that a person who would do such a thing, but keeps that aspect of themselves at all hidden is vanishingly rare. Finding a suicidal terrorist capable of acting normal is a tall order. It's not like the operations themselves take a ton of people or resources.

05-23-2017 , 01:46 PM

#35080

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ASAP17

Your original point was that ISIS isn't attacking in the US because of the vigilance of our intelligence and law enforcement agencies. I think it's much more likely to be for other reasons - they don't have the resources, they have other priorities, they've strategically decided not to attack the US, etc.

If they wanted to make us a priority, and they still have the resources, it would not be that hard to commit fairly frequent attacks with 10+ dead in the US.

05-23-2017 , 01:47 PM

#35081

Kirbynator

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omg Melania did it again? lmao

05-23-2017 , 01:48 PM

#35082

spaceman Bryce

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at what point do you think someone becomes crazy enough to blow themselves up or run a truck through a crowd? I tend to agree its pretty far because i would never even consider doing that kind of thing.

05-23-2017 , 01:48 PM

#35083

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

Bin Laden found 19 guys who lived in the US for a year, took flight school, drank and went to strip clubs w/o revealing themselves or having a change of heart. That's very spooky to me.

Although James Woods claims he was in first class with them on a scouting flight and was convinced they were going to take down the plane. He said something to the pilot about it. If only James Woods spoke Arabic, 9/11 might have been prevented. Then again maybe they were using some obscure Saudi dialect.

05-23-2017 , 01:49 PM

#35084

ASAP17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I think it's much harder to get people into the country than you guys think especially from the areas ISIS is concentrated is my point. Don't need to go circles on it but both that and your point about them focusing on areas closer to them can be valid.

05-23-2017 , 01:50 PM

#35085

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

If they wanted to make us a priority, and they still have the resources, it would not be that hard to commit fairly frequent attacks with 10+ dead in the US.

If that happened once a month, how long until Muslim internment camps?

05-23-2017 , 01:50 PM

#35086

master3004

Revisionist Historian

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 56,466

Quote:

Originally Posted by Max Cut

https://twitter.com/DaniellaMicaela/...57615926435841

Would love to see her divorce him in 2019, give enough time for discovery to commence, dig out his real skeletons before the next election

05-23-2017 , 01:51 PM

#35087

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce

Yeah I think the biggest thing we have going for us is this is actually kind of rare. I bet even a small % of ISIS recruits actually want to kill kids and innocent civilians - when it comes time to sign up.

05-23-2017 , 01:53 PM

#35088

simplicitus

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Read the letter linked in this tweet from the government ethics office. https://twitter.com/OfficeGovEthics/...82381440675841 Trump and his flunkies in the administration have never had to deal with lawyers like this.

Seriously, one of the best legal letters Ive read, and done in like two days. It's not a brushback pitch, it's a fastball aimed at the head.

Now add Muller, etc. I could see the Muller report say, "Trump didn't actively collude, he just wanted to cover up massive money laundering."

05-23-2017 , 01:56 PM

#35089

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

I think they mostly sign up for a paycheck or were conscripted.

05-23-2017 , 01:58 PM

#35090

spaceman Bryce

anything you guys want

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

My best friend is a muslim from pakistan. He says some crazy ****- and thats one of the reasons we get along so well because there isn't like some invisible fence in every conversation where you might say the right thing in the exact wrong way. We can just talk. He runs the best tobacco store in kansas city, they have some great specialty tobacco

. He talks a lot about the problems of the west.

I just dont see him ever blowing himself up....like i just don't see it.

05-23-2017 , 01:58 PM

#35091

RV Life

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05-23-2017 , 01:59 PM

#35092

simplicitus

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GBV

Do you honestly believe that ISIS-who command the resources of a nation-state and operate in multiple different countries, can't send a single guy to the US?

It doesn't take any resources other than airfare and maybe a couple of hundred dollars for fertilizer.

ISIS don't attack the US for one reason only: you provide them with thousands of new recruits continuously.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

05-23-2017 , 02:01 PM

#35093

RV Life

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbynator

omg Melania did it again? lmao

Trump didn't even know what to do besides grab her ass.

05-23-2017 , 02:10 PM

#35094

JacktheDumb

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

Don't doubt his guilt. My question was more general if innocent people ever or commonly plead the 5th?

Define Innocent... If someone pleads the 5th and is found to be not guilty, he i innocent, so yes, there are a lot innocent people doing it.

05-23-2017 , 02:11 PM

#35095

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

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Has there been a FLOTUS who has hated her husband more than Melania?

05-23-2017 , 02:13 PM

#35096

master3004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

Has there been a FLOTUS who has hated her husband more than Melania?

Lou Henry Hoover obv

05-23-2017 , 02:13 PM

#35097

StimAbuser

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Damn Melania just straight ruthlessly cold towards Trump lmao. I assume she stays with him because there's a prenup saying divorce would mean she doesn't get anything. I'm guessing maybe she feels untouchable now because shes got a lot of dirt on him and he's vulnerable?

Though if he lives out his presidency wouldn't she be screwed?