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05-21-2017 , 11:20 AM
jfc - this panel on Face the Nation is *this* close to calling Trump "presidential" for this Saudi Arabia visit.

They seem to legitimately think that he is turning over a new leaf and is trying to work towards peace, isn't afraid of Muslims, etc.

In the meantime, it's pretty obvious that his tough talk dies down when he is face to face with those he normally insults and that he is just trying to get Saudi money. On the Saudi side, they are OBVIOUSLY treating him like Prince Akeem because they know he will lap it up.
05-21-2017 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob
We've been giving Saudi Arabia a pass for their human rights abuses for nearly 20 years. That's part of the quid pro quo. They take care of Yemen and we look the other way when they oppress their people.
Unfortunately Saudi Arabia also gets a pass for exporting Wahhabism all over the world.
05-21-2017 , 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
We are to believe the pussy grabber in chief is a huge supporter of women's rights as he tries to gut women's healthcare both in America and abroad.

**** him and **** everyone who says one good thing about him or his disgusting speech.

i see. i like your style.
05-21-2017 , 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by einbert

https://twitter.com/rebeccaballhaus/...45700937179136


https://twitter.com/MalcolmNance/sta...65974894346240
Supposedly Jared also intervened to cut the price tag of the arms deal for the Saudis and then gets a generous donation to his wife's philanthropic organization. That's literally the smoking gun that people wanted to find in the Clinton charities.
05-21-2017 , 11:41 AM
Oh cool another round of "trump read off a screen, lay off libs"
05-21-2017 , 11:50 AM
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“We are closely coordinating our efforts in terms of how to counter Iran’s extremism and its export of extremism,” Secretary of State Rex W. Tillerson said at a joint news conference in Riyadh with Adel al-Jubeir, the Saudi foreign minister.
the irony

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It would be troublesome but perhaps acceptable for the House of Saud to promote the intolerant and extremist Wahhabi creed just domestically. But, unfortunately, for decades the Saudis have also lavishly financed its propagation abroad. Exact numbers are not known, but it is thought that more than $100 billion have been spent on exporting fanatical Wahhabism to various much poorer Muslim nations worldwide over the past three decades. It might well be twice that number.
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/6501916
05-21-2017 , 11:50 AM
So this Sheriff Clarke guy straight murders an inmate by not giving him water for seven days and no1curr, but he improperly cites his sources in a master's thesis and everyone is up in arms?
05-21-2017 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
So this Sheriff Clarke guy straight murders an inmate by not giving him water for seven days and no1curr, but he improperly cites his sources in a master's thesis and everyone is up in arms?
Having a cool president is normalizing everything that used to be outlandish. **** the thirsty dead mental patient though, the POTUS never had it so bad, constantly being picked on.
05-21-2017 , 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Pence isn't any less authoritarian than Trump


http://www.shakesville.com/2017/03/n...so-no-way.html
It's the entire Republican Party. Republicans in North Carolina did similar things when a Democratic governor was elected and when local politicians in the research triangle tried to enact progressive reforms in their local governments. Rick Scott has done similar things in Florida, too. The Environmental Regulations Commission acts as a standard-setting body for important environmental regulations, such as Clean Water Act standards, and is supposed to be composed of 7 members that represent various stakeholder groups. He has refused to appoint members to the two most progressive stakeholder slots, environmental groups and local government, and proceeded to have the ERC attempt to change Florida's water quality standards. Last year the ERC voted to approve revisions to Florida's human health based water quality criteria without those slots being filled. The final vote was 3-2 in favor of approval.
05-21-2017 , 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
So this Sheriff Clarke guy straight murders an inmate by not giving him water for seven days and no1curr, but he improperly cites his sources in a master's thesis and everyone is up in arms?
To be fair, a lot of liberals/activists on the net (including myself) raised outrage over the jail MURDER, but yeah. It seems like the mainstream media never really cared about it. It's almost like the media actually has a conservative bent to it, especially on issues of criminal justice and imprisonment.
05-21-2017 , 12:18 PM
Roger Stone wants to puke.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...e-want-to-puke
05-21-2017 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by microbet
The prisoner's murder has been covered by Democracy Now, so half a percent of America is all over it.
Exactly lol.
05-21-2017 , 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dlk9s
jfc - this panel on Face the Nation is *this* close to calling Trump "presidential" for this Saudi Arabia visit.

They seem to legitimately think that he is turning over a new leaf and is trying to work towards peace, isn't afraid of Muslims, etc.

American optimism. Both our greatest strength and greatest weakness.
05-21-2017 , 12:35 PM
Did you guys see FOX News fell to third place in the ratings during one of the busiest weeks post election so far and that's saying a lot? Any thoughts? My take is that the alt right is turning against FOX for being too tough on Trump (which of course is insane) even though they are still by far his biggest fan of the big 3 cable news networks. Conventional wisdom says it has something to do with people tired of the spin and them not covering the news but I don't buy it given who their average viewer is...
05-21-2017 , 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
So this Sheriff Clarke guy straight murders an inmate by not giving him water for seven days and no1curr, but he improperly cites his sources in a master's thesis and everyone is up in arms?
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Originally Posted by Our House
Having a cool president is normalizing everything that used to be outlandish. **** the thirsty dead mental patient though, the POTUS never had it so bad, constantly being picked on.
Americans do not care one bit what happens to their criminal population. Anything that happens to you as a result of your own misdeeds is simply your just desserts.

One really needs to look no farther than any crime and/or law enforcement related entertainment created by the American media. Police brutality and violation of suspect's constitutional rights (I'm looking at you COPS, Law & Order SVU, Criminal Minds, et al) are entertainment for the masses. The men and women who commit these injustices are portrayed as heroes.
05-21-2017 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by stinkubus
Americans do not care one bit what happens to anyone but her/him self
FYP
05-21-2017 , 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ASAP17
Did you guys see FOX News fell to third place in the ratings during one of the busiest weeks post election so far and that's saying a lot? Any thoughts? My take is that the alt right is turning against FOX for being too tough on Trump (which of course is insane) even though they are still by far his biggest fan of the big 3 cable news networks. Conventional wisdom says it has something to do with people tired of the spin and them not covering the news but I don't buy it given who their average viewer is...
No Bill O
05-21-2017 , 12:53 PM
I remember a speech on the show Blue Bloods where a cop talks about another cop perjuring himself on the stand to put a suspect away. Only he was talking about it out of respect and admiration, basically claiming it's a cop's patriotic duty to lie to put away these horrible monsters.
05-21-2017 , 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
I remember a speech on the show Blue Bloods where a cop talks about another cop perjuring himself on the stand to put a suspect away. Only he was talking about it out of respect and admiration, basically claiming it's a cop's patriotic duty to lie to put away these horrible monsters.
Found a user review of the episode:

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Ethical considerations play a large part in this excellent episode of this hit series.

Jamie's partner might be fired for lying about a detail during the arrest of a suspect. Bebe Neuwirth is the new inspector general in town, ready to carve out a name for herself and ready to start that with Jamie's partner.

Frank beautifully proves to the Neuwirth character how the mind can play tricks on us. At the end, she acquiesces; although, Frank comes to endorse her position as the inspector.

The sidebar story is equally as good. It appeared that a disturbed individual threw a 15 year old oriental girl off a subway platform on to a coming train. What ensues afterward is unbelievable. This was not what happened as bullying and a lesbian relationship come into view.
05-21-2017 , 12:55 PM
Paraphrasing Republican Senator Rick Santorum on CNN just now. "It's gonna be very hard for anybody to say that Donald Trump wants a Muslim ban after today. All they have to do is play parts of this speech for the courts and it's over." LOL
05-21-2017 , 12:55 PM
Did Fox's ratings drop or did CNN/MSNBC gain viewers?
05-21-2017 , 01:03 PM
in yet another obama mistake, trump will get full credit from media and everyone for the arms to saudis deal (since nobody gives a damn about that yemen genocide thing and the part where a bunch of those guns will end up in terrorists hands, hey it's fine as long as they use american guns!) and everything else in that deal that started years ago, and the part where jared intervenes to get the saudis a deal at american expense and the saudis take that savings and put it in ivanka's foundation is just gonna get ignored.

Great job idiots.

There's no way in hell fox news was 52/48 negative trump coverage in that harvard study, they sure do put out some unreal fake news over there. ofc the study is biased to after, before it'd be like 90/10 everyone pro trump anti hillary but ya know narratives.
05-21-2017 , 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Oh cool another round of "trump read off a screen, lay off libs"


https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/sta...36637512556547
05-21-2017 , 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Louis Cyphre
Did Fox's ratings drop or did CNN/MSNBC gain viewers?
CNN MSNBC have been gaining new viewers, FOX is stable if not declining slightly especially in the key demos.
05-21-2017 , 01:14 PM
Hey Trump people... Presidents who are actually doing the best job of any president in history don't need to force history to accept that they are doing the best job of any president in history. But con artists do.

Let that sink in.

      
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