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05-20-2017 , 06:47 AM

#34401

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Originally Posted by Dominic

He has Unsullied?

05-20-2017 , 06:52 AM

#34402

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Originally Posted by DBLK

Obviously scarves only look good on browns.

05-20-2017 , 07:01 AM

#34403

mosdef

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Originally Posted by dinopoker

Was Pence some huge success in Indiana that I haven't heard about? From what I hear he was a gong show just like most GOP governors.

I don't think he was a success at governing, but he just sort of checks all the boxes with respect to contemporary mainstream (non-Trump) American conservatism. I first heard about him when Vox was describing him as a potential presidential candidate back in 2014:

https://www.vox.com/2014/9/30/6846367/mike-pence-2016

He wasn't considered a "star" in the party because he accomplished anything in particular. If I'm reading that article correctly, his main appeal was that (before he got wrapped up in Trump controversy) he was such an overwhelmingly bland Republican (Troops! Reagan! No Gays!) that he had value at the national level because he'd be able to consolidate conservatives under a single tent.

05-20-2017 , 07:02 AM

#34404

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I wonder what sort of top secret intelligence Trump gave to the Saudis.

05-20-2017 , 07:09 AM

#34405

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Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass

I wonder what sort of top secret intelligence Trump gave to the Saudis.

They should be allowed to waterboard him, and worse.

05-20-2017 , 07:10 AM

#34406

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Originally Posted by .isolated

Apparently just as, if not more difficult, than all of you people just ignoring this guy instead of responding to him so you can feel smart for a minute...I'm sorry, I mean debating with a person whom's opinion you will never change and doesn't give a **** what you think or believe.

Same.

I see these kinds of posts all the time, and look, those are the other side's arguments. They are stupid, baseless, and trivially defeated, yes, but that's still what they're trying to argue. I think it's worthwhile to knock those arguments down and show lurkers exactly why Trump and Republicans are awful, we can't just assume everybody already knows.

05-20-2017 , 07:17 AM

#34407

Lilu7

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic

Anyone else get a boner watching Ivanka walking up the steps of Air Force One?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rex Ingram

you are a terrible poster

lol that **** was hilarious man. he's fine

05-20-2017 , 07:19 AM

#34408

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Same.

05-20-2017 , 07:21 AM

#34409

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https://twitter.com/ElBartoArmy/stat...89087696621568

05-20-2017 , 07:42 AM

#34410

SuperUberBob

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It's just so easy to get Trump to spill the beans

Russia: We have the best intelligence in the world.
Trump: No. Nobody has intelligence better than me. Where do you think we got that laptop bomb stuff from?
Russia: From Sri Lanka?
Trump: No we have an agent in ISIS.
Russia: The guy from Sri Lanka, right?
Trump: No. From Israel.
Russia: Oh really! Isn't his name Joe Johnson?
Trump: No you idiots. That isn't his name. It's John Bourne.
Russia: Geez you know so much more than us. But I bet you don't know anything about what North Korea is planning next.
Trump: Yeah we do...

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With a code so easy to crack, he might give it all away. It won't be much since he's too lazy to know much but it'll still be embarrassing. All you do is play into his need for one-upping people and that's that.

05-20-2017 , 07:50 AM

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How China’s Leader Is Playing Donald Trump
Xi Jinping has quickly figured out that the U.S. president’s bluster and bravado offer strategic opportunity.

Interesting read that shows how screwed we are, not just domestically, but foreignly too.

05-20-2017 , 08:00 AM

#34412

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Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

Isn't this just going to evolve into his staff/handlers hiding critical information from him and, possibly, giving him incorrect information knowing that he's going to blab?

05-20-2017 , 08:12 AM

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Speaking of getting played, this article is from yesterday morning. Trump is all over TV right now, getting showered in a royal welcome, littered with compliments and awarded their highest honor medal. There was the huge red carpet before, and even a projection of his face on the side of the hotel where he's staying!

What Saudi Leaders Think Of President Trump

Quote:

President Trump leaves Friday for Saudi Arabia, the first stop on his first overseas trip. Despite his anti-Saudi rhetoric during the campaign, there are reasons Saudi leaders may welcome him.

DAVID GREENE, HOST:

All right. And we're going to see if the situation in Syria comes up as President Trump heads off on his first overseas trip as president. His first stop is Saudi Arabia. After a rocky week in Washington, NPR's Tamara Keith reports that Trump is likely to get a friendly reception when he lands in Riyadh.

TAMARA KEITH, BYLINE: Ilan Goldenberg is just back from a trip to Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates. And following his meetings with high-level government officials, he had this takeaway.

ILAN GOLDENBERG: Well, actually, I think they were very optimistic about President Trump.

KEITH: Goldenberg is with the Center for New American Security.

GOLDENBERG: It's a little surprising if you think about some of the things he said during the campaign, especially about Saudi Arabia, the fact that in his view they're freeloading. He even tweeted about this.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP: We have military bases and we rent - we pay rent to Saudi Arabia to protect them.

(BOOING)

TRUMP: No, no, think of it. Think of it. Think of the stupidity.

KEITH: That was then-candidate Trump at a rally in Green Bay, Wisc., last August. In a debate, he blasted Hillary Clinton because the Clinton Foundation had taken money from Saudi Arabia. But it was as much a criticism of the country.

(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)

TRUMP: These are people that push gays off business - off buildings. These are people that kill women and treat women horribly. And yet, you take their money.

KEITH: And yet, Middle East experts say Trump will be greeted warmly in Saudi Arabia. Shadi Hamid with the Brookings Institution wrote the book "Islamic Exceptionalism."

SHADI HAMID: For the Saudis, anyone is better than Barack Obama. That was really a low point from their perspective.

KEITH: With the Iran nuclear deal being the lowest. Obama never really developed a rapport with Arab leaders, Hamid says, and worse, he was negotiating with Iran.

HAMID: So even if they have some concerns about Trump and his unpredictability, they still see him as an improvement. And they're enthusiastic in part because of Trump's strong rhetoric against Iran.

KEITH: But there are other reasons leaders in Saudi Arabia and other Gulf states have an affinity for the new American president, says Hamid.

HAMID: Trump has a strongman persona and that endears him to autocratic leaders in the Middle East. They never liked that Obama would bring up human rights concerns in their meetings. They don't have to worry about that as much with President Trump, who is not prioritizing human rights or democracy at all.

KEITH: Trump's tendency to run the government like a family business with a close circle of advisers, his daughter and son-in-law in key roles, isn't really seen as a negative in a part of the world run by extended families and monarchies, says Gerry Gerry Feierstein, senior fellow at the Middle East Institute.

GERRY FEIERSTEIN: You know, for them, Donald Trump is a very understandable and relatable individual. I mean, he's a - he's a sympathetic character. He behaves the same way they behave.

KEITH: Trump believes in personal diplomacy and building relationships, and he's transactional - all things they value. And about Trump's travel ban executive order, seen by critics as nothing more than a Muslim ban, Feierstein says it has quite possibly been better received among Arab leaders than in the United States.

FEIERSTEIN: The Emirates and the Saudis and the Egyptians and others have said, well, this is a homeland security issue for the Americans, and we understand that, and we're not going to be too fussed about it.

KEITH: Now, this isn't to say that Trump is universally popular among the citizens of these countries, but he is unlikely to face protests during his time in Saudi Arabia because that sort of public show of dissent simply isn't allowed. Tamara Keith, NPR News.

05-20-2017 , 08:30 AM

#34414

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Patriots unite!

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big b
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Drivel...pure drivel....the Bilderberg controlled MSM is trying EVERYTHING in their power to take our President down....this is the contingency plan put in place, in the one in 10 trillion chance that he was elected....All Patriots have to unite!!! Donald J. Trump is our President...WE beat the odds!! WE Elected him...and we will be DAMNED if they try to remove him!!

05-20-2017 , 08:55 AM

#34415

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trump has been awarded a medal of honor from the saudi gouvernment for his contribution to work for peace. huge gold medal around his neck lol

05-20-2017 , 08:59 AM

#34416

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No way. Pics?

Ah ****, the Russians gotta step up their game. They didn't put a gold medal around his neck, you gotta make him feel like a winner! Saudis are gettin the gooooood intel