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05-19-2017 , 02:50 AM

#34026

sportsjefe

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

sad part is if he had a sense of humor that'd be a brilliant line. But he means every word.

05-19-2017 , 03:00 AM

#34027

Clovis8

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Originally Posted by ChrisV

Since nobody has pointed out why this is wrong: Comey testified that in his experience the FBI had never been ordered to stop an investigation. The question also specified DOJ officials as the source of the order, so that would technically exclude Trump. But the main point is that Comey's testimony did not encompass informal requests of the sort he alleges Trump made.

No need. We all assume everything Sklansky posts is wrong.

05-19-2017 , 03:04 AM

#34028

Clovis8

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Hey everyone, Avwal wants us all to know Trump is totally innocent and still a great great president. He will soon be raining tax cuts and coal jobs from the skies.

Thanks Avwal.

05-19-2017 , 03:25 AM

#34029

OmgGlutten!

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GOP is gonna back down as soon as the deplorables have their say.

05-19-2017 , 03:40 AM

#34030

markksman

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

Hey everyone, Avwal wants us all to know Trump is totally innocent and still a great great president. He will soon be raining tax cuts and coal jobs from the skies.

Thanks Avwal.

West Virginia is having a huge housing crisis at the moment. Mansions to be exact. Trump fixed coal workers so expediently they can not spend their money fast enough. The Aston Martin dealership is at least ten months out from being completed and Trump Virginia Private Club has not even broken ground yet.

There is a real fear these instant multi millionaires from the coal mines are going to spread across the country and stretch the resource safety net for the very wealthy to its breaking point.

05-19-2017 , 05:44 AM

#34031

AllCowsEatGrass

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic

I use it at least once a week!

There can be too much of a good thing ...

Last edited by AllCowsEatGrass; 05-19-2017 at 05:45 AM. Reason: Like I think America has become too great. Much much too great.

05-19-2017 , 07:30 AM

#34032

danspartan

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AllCowsEatGrass

There can be too much of a good thing ...

OK, I'll go there:

He didn't say WHAT he uses it for...

05-19-2017 , 08:19 AM

#34033

Huehuecoyotl

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Here is what foreign leaders are saying on how to handle Trump when he comes to visit

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After four months of interactions between Mr. Trump and his counterparts, foreign officials and their Washington consultants say certain rules have emerged: Keep it short — no 30-minute monologue for a 30-second attention span. Do not assume he knows the history of the country or its major points of contention. Compliment him on his Electoral College victory. Contrast him favorably with President Barack Obama. Do not get hung up on whatever was said during the campaign. Stay in regular touch. Do not go in with a shopping list but bring some sort of deal he can call a victory.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/1...&_r=0&referer=

05-19-2017 , 08:29 AM

#34034

Our House

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Here is what foreign leaders are saying on how to handle Trump when he comes to visit

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/1...&_r=0&referer=

Huge national embarrassment.

Silver lining: The more stuff like this becomes public enough for Trump to hear about it, the more he feels the need to respond, the more mistakes he makes, the more evidence there is against him, the more likely he sells himself and GOP down the drain BEFORE he gets a chance to sell America to Russia.

05-19-2017 , 08:32 AM

#34035

hacksaw JD

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Here is what foreign leaders are saying on how to handle Trump when he comes to visit

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/1...&_r=0&referer=

jfc

05-19-2017 , 08:33 AM

#34036

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Originally Posted by RV Life

True. They were probably talking about BBQ recipes for Memorial Day coming up.

Probably Rosenstein told some really good ghost stories and that's what's got Merkley shaken up.

05-19-2017 , 08:39 AM

#34037

Our House

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Is the big hit to the market on Wednesday the first time Trump supporters and backers/donors have been directly financially affected by his stupidity? Republican whispers of "President Pence" (and more*) the next day are not a coincidence IMO.

*More:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

Pence in the news today (was it today? so many little pieces of news today) was the focus of the last story on Lawrence tonight. Basically, he pointed out all of this:

1) The new PAC that was formed for Pence.
2) GOP "President Pence" chatter.
3) The VP is the one who gets to start 25th amendment proceedings to remove an unfit President.
4) WH keeping Pence in the dark and letting him tell lie after lie to the media.
5) Weird out of character reaction from Paul Ryan when a reporter asked him about Pence as POTUS.

05-19-2017 , 09:03 AM

#34038

kre8tive

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

Hey everyone, Avwal wants us all to know Trump is totally innocent and still a great great president. He will soon be raining tax cuts and coal jobs from the skies.

Thanks Avwal.

It's ok Avwal. When the conman gets ran out of DC there were still be a republican hack to step in and give your multi dollar tax cut and will still work tireless to opress people who you fear.

05-19-2017 , 09:10 AM

#34039

Riverman

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Pence will be a top 5 WOAT president to be sure, but I'll take it over having to fade unprovoked nuclear war

05-19-2017 , 09:20 AM

#34040

xdeuceswild81xx

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

Pence will be a top 5 WOAT president to be sure, but I'll take it over having to fade unprovoked nuclear war

Yup. +1

05-19-2017 , 09:21 AM

#34041

TheHip41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

Pence will be a top 5 WOAT president to be sure, but I'll take it over having to fade unprovoked nuclear war

This is where I'm at as well.

05-19-2017 , 09:23 AM

#34042

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

Pence will be a top 5 WOAT president to be sure, but I'll take it over having to fade unprovoked nuclear war

A good thing about Pence for the dems is his very low charisma score. He'll win the deplorable vote for sure, but turnout will not be good.

05-19-2017 , 09:25 AM

#34043

Huehuecoyotl

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Beware of the Trump derangment dodge

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Americans can’t help but see that he is erratic, and that his domestic agenda has stalled bigly. He can claim that no politician has ever been treated more unfairly. But we can’t help but know that Ronald Reagan was shot and that John F. Kennedy was killed.

That’s why pro-Trump and anti-anti-Trump commentators have adapted.

As the weeks pass, they spend less time making positive arguments for the president and more time hiding behind the talking point that his critics are overwrought. Unhinged. Hysterical. Suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome. Don’t look here, at the president who shared too much information with Russian diplomats in an Oval Office meeting. Look there at an excessive reaction to it.

It goes on to talk about the literally insanity during the Obama years with a clip from Glenn Beck, quotes from Rush Limbaugh, and Fox, but that there were still news organizations that covered Obama's strengths and weaknesses objectively.

Quote:

Of course, the media landscapes are not exactly equivalent.

During the Obama years, the most unhinged voices on the right were often the most popular. Today, the biggest beneficiary of “the resistance” largesse is the ACLU. The biggest drivers of Trump administration news coverage are The New York Times and The Washington Post. Those organizations aren’t perfect. And there is nothing wrong with criticizing their statements or coverage in the fashion of an outlet like National Review, where there is an ongoing, honest effort to assess Trump’s strengths and flaws.

But what newspaper compares unfavorably in accuracy or poisonousness to the Fox News lineup circa 2009 or the Rush Limbaugh show any week during the Obama years?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...utm_source=twb

Speaking of "Trump Derangment Syndrome" Hannity had a segment last night talking about purging the CIA and FBI of anyone not personally loyal to Trump. That's pretty unhinged.

Last edited by Huehuecoyotl; 05-19-2017 at 09:34 AM.

05-19-2017 , 09:33 AM

#34044

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Speaking of "Trump Derangment Syndrome" Hannity had a segment last night talking about purging the CIA and FBI of anyone not personally loyal to Trump. That's pretty unhinged.

Erdoganish.

05-19-2017 , 09:37 AM

#34045

Our House

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The "deep state" and "alt radical left" coordinating to pressure Fox advertisers into getting rid of Hannity is the kind of poetry that warms my heart.

05-19-2017 , 09:41 AM

#34046

Riverman

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So Trump supporters literally cover their ears to not know what he's doing according to a vox article I just read

These ****ing people

05-19-2017 , 09:50 AM

#34047

Our House

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

So Trump supporters literally cover their ears to not know what he's doing according to a vox article I just read

These ****ing people

Apparently thinking for themselves is unreasonable. My mom told me she won't watch MSM out of fear of being brainwashed.

She's also said there are aspects of life where the truth contradicts her hardcore Catholic beliefs, but she prefers to ignore them because it feels better. Actual admission. No joke.