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05-18-2017 , 09:02 AM

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Let's give Johnny McCain a nice atta boi.

https://twitter.com/MSNBC/status/865179491139698690

05-18-2017 , 09:02 AM

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Yes

05-18-2017 , 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Our House

Maybe you know that and we & 80% of the world know that. He's claiming it's unfair though.

For the record, is there a single legit illegal act from Obama?

Bombing Libya for more than 60 days violated the war powers act.

05-18-2017 , 09:04 AM

#33654

master3004

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Originally Posted by DVaut1

Eager for the eternal "when someone with a checkered history dies, can you say bad things about them" debate.

No debate on this one baby. If there is a hell I hope his butthole is securely impaled by the devils pitchfork. **** that guy. Glad he is dead.

05-18-2017 , 09:07 AM

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The odds are that the Department of Justice would not launch this sort of investigation if they did not already have an inkling of there being no real issues with the president. If they were really concerned about the president, they would keep this in house where they could exercise greater damage control.

Anybody have any thoughts on this? The decision was made by the the Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein, so it's really a matter of his credibility, right?

On the other side is the Washington Post saying this is only bad for the White House.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.3d147fe5e91a

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This move became inevitable once Rosenstein was embroiled in the Comey firing. Indeed, the appointment of a special counsel may be seen as recognition that those events — in which Rosenstein is both a witness and a participant — must be examined.

05-18-2017 , 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by jman220

We need to stop comparing Trump to Nixon. Nixon orchestrated a cover-up of a two bit burglary at a hotel to steal election plans, and then did a whole bunch of lying and obstruction of justice. Trump or members of his campaign possibly conspired with a hostile foreign power to manipulate an election and enrich themselves in the process. The two are night and day.

Can we contrast the two of them? For example, Nixon was a little better at being a criminal than Trump.

05-18-2017 , 09:14 AM

#33657

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Originally Posted by Thug Bubbles

Conservative blogger, Erick Erickson (friend of Joe Jack and Bobby Robby), is theorizing that the Justice Department moved on a Special Prosecutor because they feel the President is safe.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/...d-rejoice.html

Anybody have any thoughts on this? The decision was made by the the Deputy Attorney General, Rod Rosenstein, so it's really a matter of his credibility, right?

On the other side is the Washington Post saying this is only bad for the White House.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.3d147fe5e91a

Keep this post on the back burner for when Trump fires Rosenstein.

05-18-2017 , 09:16 AM

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Can we contrast the two of them? For example, Nixon was a little better at being a criminal than Trump.

Nixon lasted two years after the breakin, Trump about one year and counting since he started flacking for Putin. Guess we'll find out.

05-18-2017 , 09:22 AM

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Can we contrast the two of them? For example, Nixon was a little better at being a criminal than Trump.

It's actually kind of similar to the somewhat misguided Trump-Hitler comparisons. Trump and Hitler definitely share a common ideology of sorts, but Hitler had a plan and he had a lot of intelligence and discipline. Trump doesn't have any of these.

05-18-2017 , 09:27 AM

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At the fascism level impeachment is a priority. On a policy level a ruined presidency with convictions for high level admin officials might be better than president Pence.

05-18-2017 , 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by iron81

Nixon lasted two years after the breakin, Trump about one year and counting since he started flacking for Putin. Guess we'll find out.

Can't really compare the two, imo, because the composition of Congress is different. If Dems held Congress right now, it's hard to imagine we wouldn't be much further along in unraveling this thing by now.

05-18-2017 , 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by einbert

Hitler's intelligence is way overrated imo. He ruined his country with horrible decisions and like Trump the responsibility wasn't just on him, but about 35% of the country being deplorable.

05-18-2017 , 09:32 AM

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Well I think that can be true and he can still be more intelligent than Trump by an order of magnitude.

05-18-2017 , 09:35 AM

#33664

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Originally Posted by fatkid

Hole E **** Trump just fired Rosenstein. This is getting real folks.

Crazy stuff.

Why?

05-18-2017 , 09:37 AM

#33665

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Originally Posted by Our House

Keep this post on the back burner for when Trump fires Rosenstein.

I mean, given what we heard about Trump's reaction when Jefferson the Half-Elven recused himself, this has to happen right? Either Rosenstein defied his boss, which gets him fired, or he had his boss' blessing, which lends credence to Leif Ericsson's theory.

05-18-2017 , 09:39 AM

#33666

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Originally Posted by Our House

Maybe you know that and we & 80% of the world know that. He's claiming it's unfair though.

For the record, is there a single legit illegal act from Obama?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

05-18-2017 , 09:44 AM

#33667

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Originally Posted by Our House

Maybe you know that and we & 80% of the world know that. He's claiming it's unfair though.

For the record, is there a single legit illegal act from Obama?

#tansuitgate

05-18-2017 , 09:46 AM

#33668

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When Trump does [horrific act X as recommended by Steve Bannon] it will probably be 100% legal. Slavery was legal, as was the holocaust, and mass incarceration/Jim Crow.

05-18-2017 , 09:48 AM

#33669

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Originally Posted by TheHip41

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki

His son too! Somehow I didn't realize that the 8-year-old killed in Trump's Yemen fiasco was also Awlaki's kid. That family is getting the full pissed-off-the-Greek-gods treatment.

05-18-2017 , 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bobman0330

His son too! Somehow I didn't realize that the 8-year-old killed in Trump's Yemen fiasco was also Awlaki's kid. That family is getting the full pissed-off-the-Greek-gods treatment.

Daughter.

05-18-2017 , 09:53 AM

#33671

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Having thought about it overnight, the Flynn/Raqqa story is definitely the biggest thing to have happened this week (so far!). The National Security Advisor was paid by a foreign government to manipulate U.S. military operations to softplay ISIS to serve the interests of his dictatorial foreign paymasters. And both Trump and Pence knew! It's just breathtaking.