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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

05-17-2017 , 01:21 AM
Why don't the Republicans pursue the investigations as hard as they can, get some obstruction of justice charges and impeach Trump? Why are any of them loyal to him at all? They can get Pence in there and he'll let them get to their agenda of cutting taxes, stopping abortions, cutting welfare, etc.
05-17-2017 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
Why don't the Republicans pursue the investigations as hard as they can, get some obstruction of justice charges and impeach Trump? Why are any of them loyal to him at all? They can get Pence in there and he'll let them get to their agenda of cutting taxes, stopping abortions, cutting welfare, etc.?
Because they fear Trump's base. The 40 percent that still approve are their primary voters.
05-17-2017 , 01:22 AM
His idiot army would revolt.
05-17-2017 , 01:27 AM

#WinterIsComey

https://twitter.com/Kasparov63/statu...98298577408000
05-17-2017 , 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MicroPimpin
If he goes down I see him and Bannon destroying as many people as they can on the way out. Would make sense to go quietly, but yeah that's not going to happen.
Trump for sure. But Bannon is smart enough to make sure he's not connected w/ any of this stuff that may bring Trump down. He's just feeding Trump propaganda on an hourly basis.
05-17-2017 , 01:30 AM
If they impeach Trump, they lose the House. They are calculating whether keeping him is worse.
05-17-2017 , 01:31 AM
Erdogan's goons beating up American citizens pisses me right the **** off. Will those pieces of **** face legal consequences in the United States? That is some grade A bull**** if not. Literally curbstomping a woman. JFC. **** you, Trump.
05-17-2017 , 01:33 AM
You know how much they could do in 2 years with full control of the US government and a competent president? I think it would be worth it to them.
05-17-2017 , 01:55 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
Not nearly as much as they could've, though. That's the most insane video I've ever seen. Watch any of the antifa/nazi scuffles that happen, when those go violent cops escalate IMMEDIATELY to pepperspray and gang tackles. And in those riots there's generally no like, obvious aggressor to immediately arrest.

Cops are just like, politely tracking down people who were kicking women in the face as they laid on the ground. There's a goddamn baby stroller lying on its side!
Yeah, I'm counting precisely 1 cop who, and luckily it was to protect the woman being kicked on the ground, pulled out his nightstick and starting beating bodyguard ass.

A person can easily die from being kicked in the head by a mob like that. If that's not a guns drawn situation I don't know what is. Total insanity.
05-17-2017 , 01:58 AM
See you guys tomorrow

Cant wait to wake up!

05-17-2017 , 02:10 AM
Probably ponied, but re: Troubled (TM) Republicans.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifes...d82_story.html

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“I’m glad that they’re troubled,” sighed Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) as he, too, navigated the Capitol grounds on Tuesday. “Saying you’re troubled is pretty empty if you’re not willing to do anything about it.”

The troubling trouble, on Tuesday, seemed to be that nobody was exactly sure what to do about it, at least not yet. “You want to let the dust settle,” Flake said.

“I’m going to wait and withhold judgment,” said Cruz.

“I don’t know what the consequences are going to be except for the decision of the American people,” McCain said. (Can the American people appoint a special prosecutor? Can the American people issue subpoenas?)
05-17-2017 , 02:17 AM
Ship goes down even if the captain gets off.
05-17-2017 , 02:38 AM
Shouldn't those thugs be immediately deported?? Has the WH made any statements regarding the protesters getting beaten by Erdogan's security detail?
05-17-2017 , 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by GTO2.0
When it comes down to it, he's probably one of the first Rs to really turn, but that's not saying much. He's shown so far that his loyalty lies with the party first.
I can't blame a guy for being loyal to his party. If the Dems had won, I'd want them over turning Citizens United, making Cannabis legal, Doubling down on LGBTQ rights, softening prison sentences for non violent criminals, doing more for minorities, expanding universal healthcare, Planned Parenthood, and on and on and on. All these things would incense Republicans just as much as their agendas incense us. However...

My only point is I believe McCain has character. He was the one that grabbed the mic away from that batty old women and said that while he and Obama have political disagreements, Obama is a good man and btw is not a Muslim either. When all is said and done, I believe he would not push a GOP agenda at the expense of a fascist and criminal executive branch. And we need a few more McCains on the Republican side of the aisle. If they don't step forward, then where exactly does the line lie that Trump cannot cross? I've thought we've seen it about 100 times so far. WTF does this guy gotta do for Republicans to stand up and say he's unfit?

Will they find it before we nuke a country so this Flynn/Russia/Comey stuff becomes back page news? Because I think that's their next move.
05-17-2017 , 02:41 AM
Comey better have a poison tester check his food before eating.

That guy isn't guaranteed to live long enough to testify.
05-17-2017 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Shouldn't those thugs be immediately deported??
They're prob getting on Erdogan's plane anyway.
05-17-2017 , 02:51 AM
David Brooks: When The World Is Led By A Child

This may be slow pony, but it's devastating in its impact.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/o...f=opinion&_r=0

This is the kind of opinion piece one reads and either emphatically agrees (or emphatically disagrees) with the writer's points. I suppose it boils down to your point of view and whether you like (or greatly dislike) Donald Trump.

Last edited by Alan C. Lawhon; 05-17-2017 at 03:11 AM.
05-17-2017 , 02:58 AM
I wonder how much it matters. Trump's a liability but that's true no matter what. But some of these things like the GOP Healthcare bill, weakening regs, tax cuts for wealthy - these were clearly going to piss some of their constituents off at some point anyway and they're must-do's for their backers. If they can't make their moves with a celebrity clown president eating up headlines, then when?

Constituents talk a lot of **** they don't back up at the polls. Incumbents win ~95% of the time because they take care of their donors and PACs first and weather some local butthurt with the tiny fraction of people paying attention. Even somebody like Chaffetz (before recent announcements) was hardly a lost cause, local approval ratings are still polling over 50% today.
05-17-2017 , 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by synth_floyd
You know how much they could do in 2 years with full control of the US government and a competent president? I think it would be worth it to them.
So where are those voters going to go? To the Democrats?

At absolute worst, they stay home. But could they really be happy knowing that their inaction could lead to a Democrat in office? These people will begrudgingly vote for any GOP nominee the way many Dems voted for Hillary.

Perhaps they are afraid of Pence being compromised as well.
05-17-2017 , 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Lestat
I can't blame a guy for being loyal to his party. If the Dems had won, I'd want them over turning Citizens United, making Cannabis legal, Doubling down on LGBTQ rights, softening prison sentences for non violent criminals, doing more for minorities, expanding universal healthcare, Planned Parenthood, and on and on and on. All these things would incense Republicans just as much as their agendas incense us. However...

My only point is I believe McCain has character. He was the one that grabbed the mic away from that batty old women and said that while he and Obama have political disagreements, Obama is a good man and btw is not a Muslim either. When all is said and done, I believe he would not push a GOP agenda at the expense of a fascist and criminal executive branch. And we need a few more McCains on the Republican side of the aisle. If they don't step forward, then where exactly does the line lie that Trump cannot cross? I've thought we've seen it about 100 times so far. WTF does this guy gotta do for Republicans to stand up and say he's unfit?

Will they find it before we nuke a country so this Flynn/Russia/Comey stuff becomes back page news? Because I think that's their next move.
Republicans will grow a pair as soon as polling (and election results) begin showing their own political viability endangered by Trump. When that happens is anybody's guess.
05-17-2017 , 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by bobman0330


McCain drops a W-bomb.
Sounds like he has ramped his concern level all the way up to a 2.
05-17-2017 , 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan C. Lawhon
Republicans will grow a pair as soon as polling (and election results) begin showing their own political viability endangered by Trump. When that happens is anybody's guess.


https://twitter.com/EWErickson/statu...33771143942144
05-17-2017 , 03:45 AM
05-17-2017 , 04:00 AM
05-17-2017 , 04:02 AM
Guess Trump doesn't have the composure to order the assassination of Comey. If he's in this deep with the coverup, might as well go the whole nine.

I mean there is precedent for the "targeted killing" of American citizens without due process (see al-Awlaki, Anwar). So it would be legally defensible. It is beyond the pale in some ways but since when has that stopped Trump from doing anything?

      
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