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05-16-2017 , 06:58 PM

#32876

PocketChads

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.@FoxNews reporting on the air now that they can't get a Republican member on the air right now to defend Trump

https://twitter.com/sarahcwestwood/s...11207545843713

05-16-2017 , 07:01 PM

#32877

fxwacgesvrhdtf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

Apparently the notes are admissible in court. Comey must have known Trump was dumb enough to do something like fire him; so he left a paper trail.

Memos to the file are a standard prosecution practice for documenting something. He didn't necessarily do it because he was hedging against being fired. He probably did it because its his standard practice.

05-16-2017 , 07:02 PM

#32878

uDevil

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WaPo says Comey gave his memo to Justice Dept. Oh, man.

https://twitter.com/liamstack/status/864613508348092416

05-16-2017 , 07:02 PM

#32879

fxwacgesvrhdtf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by simplicitus

Yes, of course. See Nixon, Richard. However, if Trump taped the conversation, it's already been deleated.

And if its a digital recording, it can easily be recovered.

05-16-2017 , 07:03 PM

#32880

wheatrich

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Can only presume Jason Chaffetz means and throw them all promptly in the shredder

05-16-2017 , 07:03 PM

#32881

master3004

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DVaut1

ahahah

Didn't realize Sharkey was still kicking around on the internet. He used to be part of the old Retronauts crew for those into classic/retro video game/arcade podcasts.

Do you listen to any of the other lasertime podcasts?

05-16-2017 , 07:03 PM

#32882

fatkid

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Lolsnhitshow

05-16-2017 , 07:03 PM

#32883

fxwacgesvrhdtf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DTD

I read somewhere (maybe here!) that Comey was well known for taking notes meticulously.

Serious question - if it is believed that Trump may have recorded conversations then can he be forced to present this evidence under any scenario?

Absolutely. That's what did Nixon in.

05-16-2017 , 07:06 PM

#32884

dinopoker

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Plus as a bonus Nixon deleted 18 minutes of one of the recordings, which at the end of the day was just the tiniest bit suspicious.

05-16-2017 , 07:06 PM

#32885

jmakin

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Absolute lol if comeyends up being the one to put out this dumpster fire

05-16-2017 , 07:07 PM

#32886

Clovis8

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Bueller? Bueller? Where are all the republicans jumping ship?

Oh ya, nowhere. None. Not one.

05-16-2017 , 07:07 PM

#32887

fxwacgesvrhdtf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wheatrich

Can only presume Jason Chaffetz means and throw them all promptly in the shredder

No. Chaffetz has aspirations for higher office in Utah and Utahns do not like Trump. I think he's legit going to turn his fire on Trump to propel himself to the governor's mansion as a republican hero.

05-16-2017 , 07:07 PM

#32888

RV Life

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jman220

Yea that makes sense. I remember one time being interviewed by the FBI for a background check and the dude was taking notes even when they were asking me questions about what it was like when I was growing up.

05-16-2017 , 07:09 PM

#32889

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dinopoker

Plus as a bonus Nixon deleted 18 minutes of one of the recordings, which at the end of the day was just the tiniest bit suspicious.

It wasn't suspicious at all, his secretary merely had to do this

to accidentally delete part of the tape. Much more believable than the **** we're currently being fed.

05-16-2017 , 07:09 PM

#32890

RV Life

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Haha FOX talking about Russia now. They are shook.

05-16-2017 , 07:09 PM

#32891

Namath12

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Trump is guilty of obstruction of justice

Full stop

05-16-2017 , 07:11 PM

#32892

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05-16-2017 , 07:11 PM

#32893

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jman220

as republicans will see it

05-16-2017 , 07:11 PM

#32894

fatkid

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

Trump is guilty of obstruction of justice

Full stop

Yup.

05-16-2017 , 07:14 PM

#32895

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So, if there are tapes that back up Comey's memos, that would seem to be very bad for Trump. But, Trump's tweet about "tapes" made it seem like Trump thinks that whatever is on the tapes is good for Trump and bad for Comey, right? So, I guess I'm using my one time on the scenario where Trump not only doesn't destroy the evidence, but actually gleefully turns it over because he think it exonerates him?

05-16-2017 , 07:16 PM

#32896

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I actually wouldn't be shocked if Trump wants out and resignation is not that bad of an outcome for him, far better than impeachment obviously. Best case is for him to linger around incompetently until the midterms, hopefully allowing Dems to make up enough ground that he forced the Republicans hand on impeachment but also wrecks the party for the foreseeable future.

05-16-2017 , 07:17 PM

#32897

revots33

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Will Trump be impeached in 2017 up 12 cents to 33 on Predictit.

05-16-2017 , 07:18 PM

#32898

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigoldnit

i thought about that too. my best guess is trump has so little self-awareness that he can no longer distinguish between the reality he creates on the fly and the reality that is objectively provable to others, and earnestly believest he "tapes" exonerate him at this point. but i'm not getting my hopes up bec trump knows enough to give the "tapes" to his personal lawyers or daughter first