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05-16-2017 , 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by .Alex.
Not sure we should be rooting for Trump to be impeached. At the very least all of the scandals and incompetence have made it harder for him to enact meaningful domestic policy unencumbered (they are still trying their best mind you). We put Pence in charge and the Republican train of tax cuts for the rich, healthcare destruction, criminal justice aggression, and far-right social policy starts churning like a well-oiled machine.
No


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Originally Posted by Our House
Cornyn just withdrew his name as FBI Director too. Republicans don't want to serve Trump anymore. Good. **** him.
Somebody knows something. Cheeto is toxic.
05-16-2017 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Ahhh 2014, what a year:

https://twitter.com/stevebenen/statu...33038792925184
i have a feeling the same person that recommended tillerson recommended her
05-16-2017 , 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Politico is getting good with the humor



http://www.politico.com/magazine/sto...ce-leak-215140
05-16-2017 , 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by .Alex.
Not sure we should be rooting for Trump to be impeached. At the very least all of the scandals and incompetence have made it harder for him to enact meaningful domestic policy unencumbered (they are still trying their best mind you). We put Pence in charge and the Republican train of tax cuts for the rich, healthcare destruction, criminal justice aggression, and far-right social policy starts churning like a well-oiled machine.
death tho
05-16-2017 , 02:58 PM
Was VMF banned? Kinda interested to see how he twists this into GOOD NEWS for Israeli/US relations.
05-16-2017 , 03:06 PM
He's in POG going on about the Seth guy. Exiled from here.
05-16-2017 , 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by JoltinJake
Was VMF banned?
Only from SE.

EDIT: Here too I guess.

He semi-frequently posts nonsense in the POG politics thread. For example, late last night he posted about Seth Rich.
05-16-2017 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker
Congratulations Mr. H.R. McMaster, you're the next contestant on "Under the Bus!"

05-16-2017 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by champstark
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/1...&_r=0&referer=

Info President Cheeto leaked came from Israel
I'm not sure I believe this. Seems the most convenient pick all round IMO.
05-16-2017 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
Guilfoyle from Silicon Valley would be a better choice
nailed it
05-16-2017 , 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by superleeds
I'm not sure I believe this. Seems the most convenient pick all round IMO.
Part of his promise to make peace in the middle east.

1. Screw over Israel.
2. Screw over Palestine.
3. Russia (peacefully) takes over the region.
4D negotiations.
05-16-2017 , 03:34 PM
Delightful nugget from this NYT article:

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In private, three administration officials conceded that they could not publicly articulate their most compelling — and honest — defense of the president: that Mr. Trump, a hasty and indifferent reader of printed briefing materials, simply did not possess the interest or knowledge of the granular details of intelligence gathering to leak specific sources and methods of intelligence gathering that would do harm to United States allies.
Insiders say that Trump is simply to stupid to leak classified information as that would require some form of recall as well as rudimentary language skills.
05-16-2017 , 03:36 PM
McMaster: The President can't be inappropriate because his actions are the very definition of what's appropriate.

Priest: God can't be bad because his actions are the very definition of what's good.

Carlin: Spooky language. SPOOKY LANGUAGE!
05-16-2017 , 03:36 PM
What are the arguments in favor of the continued existence of our nation? I got nothing.
05-16-2017 , 03:39 PM
yeah, single people especially should start looking for an exit plan from this banana republic.
05-16-2017 , 03:43 PM
so the potential new press sec wished putin could be president? awesome!
05-16-2017 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
I'm not praising it necessarily but one thing to consider is that what you're seeing is a highly effective ideological movement.

I try to say this without inputting my own values onto this, but I've made this point before: but having a huge number of basic automatons who can reflexively and dutifully recite highly ideological and partisan talking points (put aside for the moment that they're brazenly stupid) before opinion elites even create them is symbolic of a highly effective political movement.

The left should think long and hard about this because in the our goal should be to create the same thing. The modern left is NOTHING but a political movement of free-thinkers who require almost debilitating amounts of messaging coordination and explanation to get our point of view understood by the public writ large. That's kind of a bad thing, it has huge costs.

I'm not suggesting we perfectly emulate the modern right but it is worth noting some of what you are witnessing is a hallmark of their ideological success and our inability to counter it a mark of our collective longstanding failure.
You could start by realizing that it is a mistake to make a big deal about Trump warning Russia about a new technique ISIS may use to bring down an airliner. The arguments against him doing that are too esoteric to persuade most people. And as my girlfriend pointed out to me, if they had been kept in the dark and one of their planes had been attacked with this technique, it would be very bad if it came out that the US could have prevented it. Those factors will override Trump's amateurishness in the minds of many and anti Trumpers should realize that overemphasizing his error could backfire.
05-16-2017 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
yeah, single people especially should start looking for an exit plan from this banana republic.
I'm seriously considering moving to a tiny fishing village in Mexico and coming back every six months to work for a bit.
05-16-2017 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
You could start by realizing that it is a mistake to make a big deal about Trump warning Russia about a new technique ISIS may use to bring down an airliner. The arguments against him doing that are too esoteric to persuade most people. And as my girlfriend pointed out to me, if they had been kept in the dark and one of their planes had been attacked with this technique, it would be very bad if it came out that the US could have prevented it. Those factors will override Trump's amateurishness in the minds of many and anti Trumpers should realize that overemphasizing his error could backfire.
I don't know that your response is relevant to what I said and I'm also fairly confident the accusation against Trump is that he needlessly outed specific intelligence resources (e.g., spies) rather than the vague or even specific outlines of what ISIS might do to an airliner (use laptop batteries to set off explosions). My point to einbert is that what we might rationally see as a slight and an insult to right-wingers (their ability to reflexively generate talking points that reflect their ideology and repeat the same things about recently emerging news and events) is actually a testament to the success of their ideological movement and in some respects to be envied and emulated for people who want to effect change in the world.

Although I agree with the larger point that this debate is way too esoteric for a vast majority of Americans.
05-16-2017 , 03:51 PM
Eh I think the Trump intelligence thing is actually a good story; he will lose much more from appearing incompetent than he will from appearing malicious. If the white nationalists think he is so incompetent that he will get them blown up by ISIS, even they will jump off the bandwagon.
05-16-2017 , 03:52 PM
Ok, so who else did Trump share this important secret with? Cause if it is only Russia..
05-16-2017 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
yeah, single people especially should start looking for an exit plan from this banana republic.
I'm planning to drive to Patagonia in 6 months, with the express idea of stopping and living somewhere along the way if I feel like it. **** this ****.
05-16-2017 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TrollyWantACracker
What are the arguments in favor of the continued existence of our nation? I got nothing.
I've got nothing either.

I'd snap accept all the states with brains seceding/joining Canada/whatever.
05-16-2017 , 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by David Sklansky
You could start by realizing that it is a mistake to make a big deal about Trump warning Russia about a new technique ISIS may use to bring down an airliner. The arguments against him doing that are too esoteric to persuade most people. And as my girlfriend pointed out to me, if they had been kept in the dark and one of their planes had been attacked with this technique, it would be very bad if it came out that the US could have prevented it. Those factors will override Trump's amateurishness in the minds of many and anti Trumpers should realize that overemphasizing his error could backfire.
Did you miss the part where they went crazy trying to get the NSA and CIA to contain the damage right after he said it? Or the part where Trump got into a dick swinging intel bragging contest over how he had the best secrets around? Or later, when McMaster claimed that Trump didn't know the classified information he bragged about having was in fact classified?
05-16-2017 , 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by fuluck414
I'm seriously considering moving to a tiny fishing village in Mexico and coming back every six months to work for a bit.
Zihuatanejo is supposed to be nice.

      
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