i'd be down to give him $1T just to gtfo of office and have everyone else associated with his Presidency be banned from having any political offices or advisory roles.

I forgot to mention, I don't know if the ban was designed to be a test of loyalty, and I strongly tend towards trusting Occam's Razor to answer that, but the result is the same. Trump knows and the public should be aware that at least one federal law enforcement agency sides with Trump, unless maybe if the abuses get a lot worse.


As long as Trump holds the position of President, the military will be on his side. Even if you assume that there are some key senior leaders who can distinguish between bull**** unlawful orders and orders that they simply don't agree with (and there are people like that), they also understand the Trumpkin Koolaid is strong throughout their fellow soldiers, they would be in the minority for opposing any orders, and likely facing treason charges if they oppose any orders, legal or not. That makes me considerably less confident that anyone in the military would stand against Trump as long as he's President.

It's a different story if he's impeached but refuses to give up power. But that requires Congress standing up to Trump before the military.


You're underestimating how strongly the people responsible for the enforcement of America's laws and policies want to support Trump. These are people who overwhelmingly approve of the **** show that has been his first week. They'll be more than willing to buy the propaganda that will inevitably precede our descent into fascism that labels those latte-sipping suburban libs as enemies of the state and respond accordingly. If your plan for resistance assumes you'll have any significant support from current law enforcement or military, you need a new plan.

Yeah this is super predictable, provoke civil unrest to justify authoritarian measures. Look for state run media (FNC) to start calling for counterdemonstrations soon.

It's only week 2


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Mostly agree - not necessarily, but just some thoughts.

In the civil rights protests the POTUS ordered the federal troops to protect civil rights activists. They did this because the local law enforcement wouldn't enforce the law. Things are worse now.

By the early 70s in the Vietnam protests the military was extremely demoralized and rank and file against the war. Desertions were massive, perhaps as many as 420000. I don't remember where it was, I think in the Pentagon Papers, that military leadership said something like "it will soon become impossible to field an effective army". (and why we had 300k South Koreans fighting in Vietnam)

If congress won't do anything and everyone in government holding a gun in on board with the Trump agenda WAAF. (can the CIA do anything?)

The question should be. Does he have any Muslim guys as his top advisors?


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I thought/hoped, this account was real, but I guess it's not.



I mean, the sentiment is obviously plausible, but the term "muzzie"?

The Oscars are going to be crazy.

Only made it to day 7 of trumps first 100 days thread and I'm both disgusted and terrified.

What in the actual **** is going on??

Anyone want to now disagree with me that a bullet to his head would be a great solution?

i'm sure trump meant "muggle"

Probably not the best sentiment to state in a recorded textual form.

You should unquote it and let him delete it before we crawled. He's not in the USA though.

Spicer live now

I've obviously no intentions of going to USA and doing anything against the ****er but I won't bat an eyelid if anything terrible was to happen to the disgusting bigoted bastard. Putting him and his cronies in jail for a long time would be a small compensation.

Land of the free and you've ended up with a right wing fruitcake in charge, I just can't make any sense of it tbh.

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I've a suggestion for the forum.....how about swear filtering his name to something like 'the fat bigoted bastard'?

This is probably easy for a Brit to say, but I kinds feel that for the longer term if may help if the tenure is long enough for the policies to be seen to fail economically and for many of the most staunch supporters to actually feel the hurt for themselves.

dude asking about tax reform.

Had to be a staged question. Goes on about Trump creating jobs for a few minutes lol.

No one thinks you'd do it, but even in the pre-Trump, pre-Patriot Act USA that's pushing it.

Another frightening thing is his campaigners looking for clients in Italy/Switzerland and around Europe.

Jfc we've enough racists of our own already.

The maddening thing about this immigration ban is that, almost no matter what happens over the next four years, it will be easy for Trump to defend with his supporters.

If there are no serious terrorist attacks on US soil in the next few months, which is highly likely, Trump will crow about how his policies are keeping America safe and use that fact as an excuse to extend the ban and increase the rigor of the "vetting".

If there is a serious attack by a citizen of a country on the banned list who arrived before the ban, Trump will use the attack as evidence that Obama's policies were terribly misguided and as a reason to extend the ban and increase the rigor of the vetting.

If there is a serious attack by citizen[s] of countries not on the "banned list", Trump will take a little heat from the right, but more likely will use the attack as evidence of why a broader (and longer) ban, more extreme vetting, etc., is necessary.

If there is a serious attack by a native born US citizen, Trump will use that fact as an excuse to increase surveillance of US citizens.

"Protect the homeland and it's people."


jfc

I had the same thought, but I think that the causal connection between the policies and the hurt will be quite tenuous in the minds of many of his supporters.

sean spicer is a terrorist

Thanks. JAQoff-free zone is best.

Cites that 109 people were detained of 300k that entered over 24 hours, and asks people to keep things in proportion. Where's the "proportion" in such a blanket ban when there's been 0 attacks from admitted refugees that have gone through existing vetting?

Netanyahu went to high school in Philadelphia. No other world leader understands the US so well.