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05-14-2017 , 01:22 AM

#31876

Kirbynator

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just referencing the mensch stuff

all seems pure bull**** to me now, sadly.

05-14-2017 , 01:23 AM

#31877

synth_floyd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

I seriously can't believe people are still under the delusion that trump might be impeached.

What else to republicans have to do to show you there is nothing he can do for them to turn? Nothing. He will never be impeached.

I have a better chance of having sex with Natalie Portman.

05-14-2017 , 01:24 AM

#31878

JoltinJake

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eyebooger

I legitimately feel like any serious talks of impeachment and removal from office have to start with Fox News turning negative on Trump.

Yup.

"What could happen that would cause Fox to turn on Trump?" is an interesting question, I think. And I have no idea what the answer is.

05-14-2017 , 01:26 AM

#31879

David Sklansky

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbynator

well people that do marathons often die a lot younger, to be fair.

Very long sessions of cardio are bad.

I believe they are only bad compared to medium sessions, not compared to couch potatoes.

05-14-2017 , 01:28 AM

#31880

JoltinJake

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Quote:

Originally Posted by th14

There's a moment in the Lester Holt interview where Trump appears to consider linking Comey to Obama but instead says something like "Comey was there a long time before me," seemingly recognizing in real time that writing off white male Republican law enforcement officer Comey as an Obama flunky isn't a good strat. I'm skeptical people with diseases of mental degeneration display this type of cunning. Instead, Trump's behavior now can be explained as in the past as that of a narcissistic conman.

I have noticed him change strategy like this mid-sentence several times as well. Don't think it's conclusive evidence of anything, really, though.

05-14-2017 , 01:34 AM

#31881

Quantum17

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This is to me one of the most interesting points. Given her 3 to 1 spend advantage and media and celebs in her pocket, Hilary must have been really toxic to lose.

05-14-2017 , 01:38 AM

#31882

watevs

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Google the Mensch Corbin story and tell me you trust anything ever coming from her after that. Would not entertain anything from her until confirmed ekaehwte

05-14-2017 , 02:08 AM

#31883

Kirbynator

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David Sklansky

I believe they are only bad compared to medium sessions, not compared to couch potatoes.

Right.

I think someone also mentionned previously that Trump also said sometimes, somewhere, that exercise was bad.

Not defending that. (not sure if it came from that story)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quantum17

This is to me one of the most interesting points. Given her 3 to 1 spend advantage and media and celebs in her pocket, Hilary must have been really toxic to lose.

more people watch fox news and believe in infowars, so no.

05-14-2017 , 02:32 AM

#31884

Our House

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Did anybody post the WH statement on today's NK launch? It has lots of info compared to the other launch statements, hints at a Russian alliance, and looks like Trump himself wrote it in his usual 3rd grade language.

Can't be sure about the last part obviously, but this comes at a time when leaks are saying the WH communications team is in turmoil, where "paranoia" is afoot and they are "trying to throw each other under the bus." Also, Trump has been chattering about replacing Spicey with Fox News's Kimberly Guilfoyle or canceling briefings altogether.

https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/863587231851786240

05-14-2017 , 02:57 AM

#31885

synth_floyd

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Is he just trolling at this point with the Russia stuff?

05-14-2017 , 03:20 AM

#31886

kre8tive

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Quote:

Originally Posted by .isolated

I wouldn't think so. Your heart starts racing, you get sweats, you feel clammy, you can't stop pacing. On the plus side, it's over quickly but you feel it. A muscle relaxer like Soma is probably the best way to die. You take a few and you literally have no side effects of taking it other than death because your heart stops pumping and you just pass out. Sadly, I had an accidental overdose of Soma's a few years ago but luckily it only resulted in me being unconscious and not death. I'd think a gun at the right spot would be one of the most comfortable ways to die as well.

Wut? Heroin is not a stimulant, your heart will not be racing and you certainly won't be doing any pacing while overdosing from an opiate. Respiratory failure is what does you in

05-14-2017 , 04:34 AM

#31887

Hotrodsather

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HastenDan

Well, at least Brian Fallon, John Podesta, Robby Mook, DWS, Jennifer Palmieri, Mandy Grunwald, and Cheryl Mills are all having a worse day than me. Thanks idiots.

Bernie would have won.

...Are you sure?...Because he ran..and he did not win...he lost......big time.....did not even make it to the final table......

05-14-2017 , 07:05 AM

#31888

5ive

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

https://twitter.com/ParkerMolloy/sta...38518286245891

Yea this is the guy I want running the economy. Though honestly golf is about the only activity where you expend almost no energy and it still called an athletic sport in respectable circles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbynator

well people that do marathons often die a lot younger, to be fair.

Very long sessions of cardio are bad.

Yeah it's one of those things that has some science behind it but a stupid person, trump in this case, is ****ing up the crucial details.

05-14-2017 , 08:26 AM

#31889

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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

If you hooked up, people could call it PortmanClo.

05-14-2017 , 08:31 AM

#31890

All-In Flynn

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbynator

just referencing the mensch stuff

all seems pure bull**** to me now, sadly.

Yeah I didn't even read once I saw her name on it. We're now both Russian agents btw, since apparently that's what everyone who doesn't believe her/looks at her funny is.

05-14-2017 , 08:40 AM

#31891

einbert

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It's not just Trump. Exhibit A:

At 3 a.m., NC Senate GOP strips education funding from Democrats’ districts
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/lat...#storylink=cpy

Quote:

The session finally resumed around 3 a.m., and Republican Sen. Brent Jackson introduced a new budget amendment that he explained would fund more pilot programs combating the opioid epidemic. He cited “a great deal of discussion” about the need for more opioid treatment funding.

Jackson didn’t mention where the additional $1 million would come from: directly from education programs in Senate Democrats’ districts and other initiatives the minority party sought.

Sen. Erica Smith-Ingram’s rural district in northeastern North Carolina took the biggest hit from the amendment. It strips $316,646 from two early college high schools in Northampton and Washington counties, and it specifically bans state funding from supporting a summer science, math and technology program called Eastern North Carolina STEM.

The Northampton County program has received about $180,000 in recent years to serve 90 high school students, many of whom are African-American and from low-income families.

“I don’t know what motivated the amendment, but it will have a devastating effect on an area that is already suffering,” Smith-Ingram said Saturday, adding that the STEM summer program would shut down if the provision is in the final budget.

She said she thinks the amendment came in response to “miscommunication” between the political parties about Democrats’ amendments.

“The future of children should not be caught up in a political disagreement between members,” she said.

The amendment also changes the counties included in a program that offers stipends to teacher assistants who are working on a college degree to get their teaching licenses.

The funding level for the program didn’t change, but seven counties represented by Smith-Ingram and fellow Democratic Sen. Angela Bryant were removed. Instead, the program will only apply to several counties represented by Republican senators.

Smith-Ingram said the counties removed have the highest teacher turnover rate in the state, and helping teacher assistants become teachers would help address the problem.

Other items cut in the late-night amendment include $200,000 to bring fresh produce to food deserts, $250,000 to fund additional staff for the N.C. Museum of Art’s recently expanded art park and $550,000 for a downtown revitalization program. The only remaining funding for the downtown program is directed to Robeson County, which has a Republican senator.

The amendment also takes a swipe at Gov. Roy Cooper by eliminating a position in his office for a federal legislative programs coordinator. A Cooper spokesman said that position helps secure federal aid for Hurricane Matthew. The state has so far received only $6.1 million of the $900 million Cooper requested to help storm victims.

05-14-2017 , 08:44 AM

#31892

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Exhibit B:

Texas Adoption Agencies Could Soon Ban Gays, Jews, Muslims
http://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-o...uslims-n756201

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Parents seeking to adopt children in Texas could soon be rejected by state-funded or private agencies with religious objections to them being Jewish, Muslim, gay, single, or interfaith couples, under a proposal in the Republican-controlled Legislature.

Five other states have passed similar laws protecting faith-based adoption organizations that refuse to place children with gay parents or other households on religious grounds — but Texas' rule would extend to state-funded agencies. Only South Dakota's is similarly sweepingly.

The bill had been scheduled for debate and approval Saturday in the state House, but lawmakers bogged down with other matters. It now is expected to come up this week.

Republican sponsors of Texas' bill say it is designed to support the religious freedom of adoption agencies and foster care providers. Many of the agencies are private and faith-based but receive state funds.

But opponents say it robs children of stable homes while funding discrimination with taxpayer dollars.

"This would allow adoption agencies to turn away qualified, loving parents who are perhaps perfect in every way because the agency has a difference in religious belief," said Catherine Oakley, senior legislative counsel for the Human Rights Campaign. "This goes against the best interest of the child."

The bill also blatantly violates the Constitution, Oakley added.

"As a governmental entity, Texas is bound to treat people equally under the law," said Oakley. "This is a violation of equal protection under the law."

State Rep. James Frank, the bill's author, said it's designed to address the state's foster care crisis by making "reasonable accommodations so everyone can participate in the system."

"Everyone is welcome. But you don't have to think alike to participate," said Frank, a Republican from rural Wichita Falls, near Texas' border with Oklahoma.

A federal judge in 2015 ruled that the state's foster care system violated youngsters' constitutional rights. Republican Gov. Greg Abbott made fixing it an "emergency" priority and the Legislature has increased funding while backing a number of major changes.

Suzanne Bryant, an Austin-based adoption attorney who works with LGBTQ clients and was one of the first individuals to have a legal same-sex marriage in Texas, said the bill fails to provide alternatives for prospective parents rebuffed by adoption agencies.

"Say you call an agency and say, 'I'm Jewish,' and it's a Catholic agency and they hang up on you," said Bryant. "The bill says you can be referred to another agency, but there's no mechanism to set that up."

Not only could agencies turn away hopeful parents under the religious freedom provision, but they could require children in the foster care system to comply with their faith-based requirements, said Bryant.

That means child welfare organizations could send LGBTQ kids to conversion therapy, a treatment designed to turn people straight — which the Pan American Health Organization calls a "serious threat to the health and well-being of affected people." And they could deny young people contraception and abortions.

"If a 17-year-old who is sexually active wants birth control, the burden to prove that constitutional right is on the child," said Bryant. "They don't have their parents advocating for them and supposed to go it alone against the system."

05-14-2017 , 08:44 AM

#31893

einbert

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In Alabama, Faith-Based Adoption Agencies Can Deny Gay Couples
https://www.theatlantic.com/news/arc...ouples/525492/

05-14-2017 , 09:08 AM

#31894

quinsmommy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 5ive

What you 'mean' to say is there are ways of getting the medicinal effects of marijuana without feeling high, and that way is specifically having a strain with high CBD and low THC.

You literally have no idea what you're talking about.

It's pretty relevant and it's not a coincidence that you people's thought processes are identical over a variety of topics.

Don't micromanage my post. There IS ways of getting THC without the effects of feeling high. The strain may have a low dose, but it is still there.

05-14-2017 , 09:30 AM

#31895

quinsmommy

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Looks like Fox News is jumping off the Trump bandwagon...
https://www.instagram.com/p/BUCGY54FnFG/

05-14-2017 , 09:42 AM

#31896

Paul McSwizzle

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Listening to that interview I'd go against dementia. He just sounds like he's 30 years older. He's what? 40 there? Now he sounds like a 70 year old guy.

This. He's still saying all the same **** he did in that interview; he's just older.

05-14-2017 , 09:48 AM

#31897

wheatrich

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official white house report of NK's last missile test

RUSSIA IS NOT PLEASED

05-14-2017 , 09:52 AM

#31898

quinsmommy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiggymike

Well rather than speculating on what Hillary might have done in your fantasies, we currently have Trump and a GOP Congress who are actively trying to take away people's healthcare, enforce harsher penalties for minor drug offenses, and generally chip away at our democracy to make this country more friendly to the rich. You're either happy with that or you were wrong to oppose Hillary, hard to see the middle ground there. If true progressives sweep into power over the next four years you can "told you so" all over the rest of us (we'll be happy too FWIW), but in the mean time a lot of lives are going to be ruined so you could stick to your principles.

We could have had quality healthcare had the Democrats not taken away the public option in the original ObamaCare. Then the GOP really would have a fight on their hands to take it away.

The black communities are used to police harassing them and harsher penalties for their crimes. This is nothing new. They will survive it.

If you do not think the Democrats are Wall Street friendly, not sure where you have been.

The point is people would have feel asleep with Hilary at the wheel. With Trump we are seeing and reacting to everything. The system is broken on both sides. They try to tell you it isn't because of these rights and those rights, but both sides are chipping away at your Constitutional rights.

Organizations like the ACLU are getting massive donations (even though they don't oppose the infringements of the 2nd amendment). The whole nation is getting involved in what is going on politically. Trump is definitely going to cause some damage, but the backlash will hopefully help the country going forward.

Some people thought this was the more valuable route. Obviously up for debate, but I can understand their view point.

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05-14-2017 , 09:56 AM

#31899

mutigers

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both sides are the same guys

Last edited by mutigers; 05-14-2017 at 09:56 AM. Reason: unless you are a woman, minority, or poor person, in which case they are clearly not you ****ing moron

05-14-2017 , 09:57 AM

#31900

einbert

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And don't disengage from politics either. That's exactly what an authoritarian like the GOP would have you do. I'm saying engage on the local level, where your voice counts for more. If your Congressperson and Senators aren't calling for a Special Prosecutor, devote all your energy to getting THAT PERSON kicked out of office in 2018. Your voice matters more in that way.

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