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05-12-2017 , 04:49 PM

#31526

Dominic

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Anyone else with a crush on Kristin Soltis Anderson?

Last edited by Dominic; 05-12-2017 at 04:51 PM. Reason: just for her looks, ldo

05-12-2017 , 04:49 PM

#31527

David Sklansky

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!

Was at Sams Club today and saw all the older upper middle class whites who were making me sick to my stomach as they walked around collecting their free samples. I was like "I bet nearly all these mother****ers voted for Trump". Economic Anxiety my ass.

Do you not think that virtually all of those you saw who voted for Trump would have voted for Bush, Rubio, etc? And don't you think that there were a few you saw who voted for Clinton but would have voted for some Republicans?

My point here has nothing to do with politics but rather my concern that posters should be more careful with logic. Specifically in this case your error is conflating the proposition that "people with economic anxiety voted for Trump" with "people who voted for Trump had economic anxiety". The incorrectness of the second proposition says nothing about the correctness of the first.

05-12-2017 , 05:19 PM

#31528

Clunker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic

Why the hell isn't Comey testifying Tuesday?? He's going to "lay low" for awhile? WTF?

I think he wants to wait to be subpoenaed before he re-appears before any of the committees. Gives him the ability to claim he was forced to appear instead of volunteer.

05-12-2017 , 05:28 PM

#31529

LostOstrich

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Originally Posted by Clunker

I think he wants to wait to be subpoenaed before he re-appears before any of the committees. Gives him the ability to claim he was forced to appear instead of volunteer.

at some point there's got to be at least a tiny remote possibility that someone somewhere along the chain of command decides to do something really revolutionary and NOT BE A GIANT COWARDLY POS AND ACTUALLY SPEAK OUT AGAINST DONALD ****ING TRUMP for like one day in their miserable life, right?

nah what am I even talking about, that never happens.

05-12-2017 , 05:37 PM

#31530

einbert

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https://twitter.com/jaketapper/statu...43647449141248

05-12-2017 , 05:39 PM

#31531

simplicitus

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"Last night @maddow was #1 rated show in all of cable tv, not just cable news. @TheLastWord was #2. Thanks for your support. We need it." Tweet from Lawrence ODonnel.

05-12-2017 , 05:41 PM

#31532

Loki

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HawaiiSurf

In reality Trump isn't a democrat or a republican. He's a BILLIONAIRE. You guys have the wrong mindset and need to look at it from the perspective of someone with **** you money. You guys think that billionaires or CEO's of companies worth 10's and hundreds of millions.....and ESPECIALLY ***** grabbing Trump actually give a second thought and/or care about things like gay marriage, abortion, transgenders in public restroom when he was a private citizen? Trump is worth billions, flying around in a 100 million dollar jet, yeah, being pro-life or pro-choice is so extremely important to him.

Trump saw an opportunity that he could exploit to become president. The unwashed masses care about and freak out over things like abortion. Billionaires don't care about these things, especially Trump.

I'd put the over/under at 10 minutes for all of Trump's life that he's spent seriously pondering social issues like these. Trump isn't the only billionaire or politician playing the public, but Trump certainly doesn't give a **** about these things one way or the other.

Welcome back dan.

05-12-2017 , 05:41 PM

#31533

fatkid

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Free samples are the backbone of society and anyone who speaks negatively about them should be punished to the full extent of the law.

05-12-2017 , 05:41 PM

#31534

ScreaminAsian

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rachel has been killing it lately

05-12-2017 , 05:43 PM

#31535

synth_floyd

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Originally Posted by simplicitus

"Last night @maddow was #1 rated show in all of cable tv, not just cable news. @TheLastWord was #2. Thanks for your support. We need it." Tweet from Lawrence ODonnel.

Really? I thought Fox shows always had the highest ratings. Is the lack of O'reilly hurting them?

05-12-2017 , 05:47 PM

#31536

Our House

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Originally Posted by Our House

others can elaborate on this post if they see anything else from the hearing stand out.

Interesting. In his MTP opening, Chuck Todd drew a link between Trump learning Flynn was interviewed by the FBI, then going to dinner with Comey the next day to request loyalty and ask if he was under investigation. I posted earlier how Yates visited the WH on January 26th and the Comey dinner was on January 27th, but I skimmed parts and didn't fully understand the implications. Thanks Chuck.

Basically, Trump has been obstructing investigations and trying to bribe law enforcement since as early as 7 days into his term. Again, something about Mike Flynn drives him wild. I really hope it gets explained down the road.

05-12-2017 , 05:49 PM

#31537

Huehuecoyotl

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Originally Posted by synth_floyd

Really? I thought Fox shows always had the highest ratings. Is the lack of O'reilly hurting them?

I'll have to dig up the chart somewhere but MSNBC has been within striking distance since Trump and the sexual harassment stuff has been going down.

05-12-2017 , 05:52 PM

#31538

Our House

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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

rachel has been killing it lately

Absolutely. I mean, the material has been flowing this week, but she's been great at catching key connections. She'll probably focus on the Flynn/FBI thing above for at least 2 minutes tonight.

05-12-2017 , 05:55 PM

#31539

wheatrich

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Originally Posted by Our House

Basically, Trump has been obstructing investigations and trying to bribe law enforcement since as early as 7 days into his term.

7 years old would be closer to accurate than 7 days into his term on this statement.

05-12-2017 , 05:57 PM

#31540

uDevil

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If Comey were waiting to testify to give Donny more opportunity to incriminate himself, I'd have to say it's working well so far. He's "priming the pump," so to speak.

05-12-2017 , 05:57 PM

#31541

grenzen

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Comey takes out clinton, now he's gonna take out trump.

Dudes gonna be a V.P. pick in 2020.

05-12-2017 , 06:02 PM

#31542

JimHammer

Digg'n the gifs

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Originally Posted by Namath12

I miss the Texas - Nebraska rivalry

Quote:

Originally Posted by corvette24

I miss the OU-Nebraska rivalry

This

05-12-2017 , 06:11 PM

#31543

ligastar

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Quote:

Originally Posted by synth_floyd

Really? I thought Fox shows always had the highest ratings. Is the lack of O'reilly hurting them?

pretty much. total viewers numbers for Q1/2017 ... for cable news shows only.

http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/here-...of-2017/325097

05-12-2017 , 06:16 PM

#31544

Paul McSwizzle

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Quote:

Originally Posted by David Sklansky

It comes from the notion that seems to be prevalent in coverage and analysis of the election that "working class whites" represented a plurality of his support. As we all know, they did not. The narrative is tired and it makes sense that people who understand the reality of the election (FNC addicted people making 70k+ are his real base) would be frustrated by this.

05-12-2017 , 06:17 PM

#31545

Nicholasp27

27th level thinker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HawaiiSurf

True about Trump, but there are billionaires that care about other people and they spend vast amounts of their fortune to try to help others

But Trump is a narcissist and definitely doesn't care

05-12-2017 , 06:17 PM

#31546

wheatrich

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"Thirty-five of them flying at a high speed, low, and they were not detected. They flew right over the top of the deal, nobody knew they were coming. Pretty cool, right?"

Trump about F35's

Luckily this is a complete lie, but my god if he starts a war he'll give away all the damn battleplans in interviews.

05-12-2017 , 06:20 PM

#31547

microbet

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MSNBC crushing ratings would have a big impact on Trump. I'm not sure how, but he'll definitely react.

05-12-2017 , 06:23 PM

#31548

simplicitus

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HawaiiSurf take is just ignorant. For many super wealthy, there really isn't much to do other than to try to impose their beliefs/worldview on humanity. Trump is something of an exception, but he's a narcissist.

05-12-2017 , 06:25 PM

#31549

Our House

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Originally Posted by microbet

MSNBC crushing ratings would have a big impact on Trump. I'm not sure how, but he'll definitely react.

Rachel & Lawrence are the next to be investigated then thrown into private prisons for mandatory maximums.

05-12-2017 , 06:26 PM

#31550

simplicitus

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The only ones who care about 'total viewers' are right wing hosts as a talking point. Rates are set by viewers in 'the demo' (ie, not olds), and msnbc has lately been beating Fox.

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