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05-11-2017 , 11:13 PM

#31301

Namath12

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CNN had Alberto Gonzales on earlier heh, remember when firing rando attorneys also wasn't no thang?

Also there's a COMEY connection there!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...051500864.html

Quote:

On the night of March 10, 2004, as Attorney General John D. Ashcroft lay ill in an intensive-care unit, his deputy, James B. Comey, received an urgent call.

White House Counsel Alberto R. Gonzales and President Bush's chief of staff, Andrew H. Card Jr., were on their way to the hospital to persuade Ashcroft to reauthorize Bush's domestic surveillance program, which the Justice Department had just determined was illegal.

In vivid testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday, Comey said he alerted FBI Director Robert S. Mueller III and raced, sirens blaring, to join Ashcroft in his hospital room, arriving minutes before Gonzales and Card. Ashcroft, summoning the strength to lift his head and speak, refused to sign the papers they had brought. Gonzales and Card, who had never acknowledged Comey's presence in the room, turned and left.

The sickbed visit was the start of a dramatic showdown between the White House and the Justice Department in early 2004 that, according to Comey, was resolved only when Bush overruled Gonzales and Card. But that was not before Ashcroft, Comey, Mueller and their aides prepared a mass resignation, Comey said. The domestic spying by the National Security Agency continued for several weeks without Justice approval, he said.

"I was angry," Comey testified. "I thought I just witnessed an effort to take advantage of a very sick man, who did not have the powers of the attorney general because they had been transferred to me."

05-11-2017 , 11:15 PM

#31302

Namath12

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I also did not know til today that Comey prosecuted Martha Stewart

05-11-2017 , 11:28 PM

#31303

ChrisV

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Summoning the director of the FBI a week after becoming President and demanding "loyalty" is some full on dictator ****.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

I mean, call Comey whatever you want, he has zero history of dishonesty. It's offensive for Trump to wage a credibility contest with him.

Yeah, tbh Comey seems like a reputable guy to me. The Clinton thing he deserved to be fired for, but I don't think he had malicious intent. He wanted to cover his ass so the GOP didn't try to jail him post election for not revealing that the Clinton investigation was re-opened, which is a reasonable concern. Because he's a guy who reads beyond headlines and is capable of parsing legal subtleties, he didn't realize that he was basically creating "Clinton is a crook" headlines.

05-11-2017 , 11:29 PM

#31304

Vagine

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Quote:

Originally Posted by fatkid

I swear to god the last words Flynn gave to Trump were "Listen Orange, you say one bad word about me I'll drop a dime on your ass so fast your head will spin. Don't try it. Also, tell that Kushner I get one night with the girl. "

"How about tomorrow night? Tonight she is with me."

05-11-2017 , 11:32 PM

#31305

NhlNut

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If you have to chuckle because you can't cry
https://www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/...lear-holocaust

05-11-2017 , 11:34 PM

#31306

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisV

Summoning the director of the FBI a week after becoming President and demanding "loyalty" is some full on dictator ****.

Yeah, tbh Comey seems like a reputable guy to me. The Clinton thing he deserved to be fired for, but I don't think he had malicious intent. He wanted to cover his ass so the GOP didn't try to jail him post election for not revealing that the Clinton investigation was re-opened, which is a reasonable concern. Because he's a guy who reads beyond headlines and is capable of parsing legal subtleties, he didn't realize that he was basically creating "Clinton is a crook" headlines.

Comey may not have realized it'd go public (a stupid thought given who he was sending the letter to and election timing but still). Chaffetz leaked the letter to the press. Also, it didn't reopen the investigation, but things like that don't matter in politics.

05-11-2017 , 11:42 PM

#31307

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

I mean, call Comey whatever you want, he has zero history of dishonesty. It's offensive for Trump to wage a credibility contest with him.

In the public arena, yes. In the legal arena however, Trump picking a fight with the entire active FBI will not end well for him.

EDIT: Humiliating the FBI from the podium, in interviews, and on twitter doesn't help him.

05-11-2017 , 11:46 PM

#31308

microbet

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63 million damned idiots.

05-11-2017 , 11:49 PM

#31309

Riverman

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Economic anxiety, tho

05-11-2017 , 11:56 PM

#31310

Kirbynator

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apparently the DoJ wont say if Sessions recused himself from Manafort related stuff.

THat could be relevant with the FBI running around with da papers

05-12-2017 , 12:00 AM

#31311

einbert

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https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/862641882983215105

05-12-2017 , 12:01 AM

#31312

th14

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https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/s...54829441527808

05-12-2017 , 12:07 AM

#31313

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Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/862641882983215105

The US government needs to get on copying the Russian government ASAP.

05-12-2017 , 12:09 AM

#31314

NMcNasty

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

lol, latest news is trump called comey in for dinner and demanded loyalty, comey refused

What really set Trump off is when Comey ordered three scoops of ice cream.

05-12-2017 , 12:13 AM

#31315

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Trump held the 2nd scoop back until Comey told him whether he was being investigated. The 3rd scoop (eventually declined) was for loyalty.

When Comey finished and said he felt "mildly nauseous", that's when Trump decided to fire him.

05-12-2017 , 12:15 AM

#31316

Namath12

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wat

05-12-2017 , 12:17 AM

#31317

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Namath12

wat

EMAILS!

05-12-2017 , 12:18 AM

#31318

Riverman

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Real headlines exceeding the onion at this point

05-12-2017 , 12:20 AM

#31319

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Scoops are for closers.

fyp

05-12-2017 , 12:30 AM

#31320

dlk9s

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Chaffetz wants to expand Russia probe to include RAWA.

05-12-2017 , 12:34 AM

#31321

Dominic

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Quote:

Originally Posted by markksman

Dear Dumb President,

"Laughing up their sleeve" is not a saying you potato-brained dishrag with a grapefruit allergy.

I mean, it's no "priming the pump"....

05-12-2017 , 12:38 AM

#31322

einbert

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https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/862449780173262848

05-12-2017 , 12:40 AM

#31323

einbert

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From July of last year:

Turkey Coup: Erdogan bans all academics from leaving country as government crackdown intensifies
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7146591.html

Quote:

Turkey has banned all academics from leaving the country, and has ordered all those who are abroad to return immediately, as President Recep Tayyip Erdogan implements a far-reaching crackdown following the failed coup to oust his government.

All teachers’ annual leave has been cancelled, and those abroad have been given hours to return to Turkey where they must report for work at 8.30am on Thursday.

Many are abroad as teachers at universities and schools are on their summer break.

The orders follow the cancellation of the licences of 21,000 school teachers, and the forced resignation of 1,577 university deans.

More than 58,000 people in public sector roles are now estimated to have been arrested or thrown out of their jobs. Over 9,000 are in state custody.

The Turkish government confirmed that 6,500 employees at Turkey's education ministry had been suspended.

05-12-2017 , 12:43 AM

#31324

eurodp

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

63 million damned idiots.

Hard to keep up with this thread but I caught this last page and I have to say I consistently come back to what you wrote. I've tried to understand the non racist voters and their issues but I still can't understand why they voted for a clearly incompetent unqualified narcissist. What a massive **** up. JFC.