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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

01-30-2017 , 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by timotheeeee
Grunching here, the marshals service is part of the DOJ
And Sessions is protected from any legal responsibility simply because his confirmation was delayed.
01-30-2017 , 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by piet_evil
isnt degrading, then i dont know what else it is.
Aww, you need a safe space to protect you from the mean people pointing out that you're repeating bull****.
01-30-2017 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
There is an error above. The 23.2 is for Buffalo, not NYC. NYC has a vanishingly low rate of 3.9.
Thanks for correcting that, I made a copy/paste error and removed the City instead of the state name for Buffalo.
01-30-2017 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Europa
As a fellow German, no it couldn't. I remember this piet guy for being a racist and self-admitted troll in the German sub-forum on here years ago, so not much seems to have changed with him.
what ? i maybe have made 10- 20 posts in the German Forum in my whole 2p2 history.
So you think other stabil Countries should go the same way as Germany and just let everyone in their Country without a Passport ?
and yeah racist, because i was banned from the most objective Mod Mr Wookie for stating my opinion about Muslim mass integration to Germany.
i made atleast 20 post in the "refugee- Crisis" thread and the most racist thing he found to ban me was: quote piet_evil: I have less respect for Arabian Culture then for other Cultures.
you sir are a Joke, i guess you are upset all day about "Fake News", but spewing lies about me because i dont fit into your World view is fact checked
01-30-2017 , 10:58 AM
Trump as racial opportunist doesn't directly make him racist, but it doesn't help the case that he's not racist. At all.
01-30-2017 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Double Eagle
At what point does the call for counter demonstrations (and the possibility of clashes) start hitting the air on FNC?
Never. FNC knows their audience is a bunch of cowardly geriatrics. What they will call for is a crackdown from the police and National Guard to restore law and order to our streets. This will start happening very soon. It will be brutal and involve widespread civil rights violations. Expect mass arrests by mid-February.
01-30-2017 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Europa
As a fellow German, no it couldn't. I remember this piet guy for being a racist and self-admitted troll in the German sub-forum on here years ago, so not much seems to have changed with him.
To be fair, it could by the Trump regime. They have their ways with alternate facts.
01-30-2017 , 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by otatop
Aww, you need a safe space to protect you from the mean people pointing out that you're repeating bull****.
i almost started crying.
no really, thats a very good Level of Discussion in here
01-30-2017 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by piet_evil
that he might not be jew, black, mexican, muslim hating racist to the core is, but more of an opportunist
This appears to be a widely held belief among the right. You all think that because you might have a black friend, never say the N word, and have never attended a KKK meeting you can't be racist.

Everyone is racist. Everyone. This has been proven by social science over and over. It's like gravity. The difference is in how one deals with this fact.

Trump chooses to let his racist impulses fly at every oppertunity.

Also, a case can be made that Trump's version of racism
Is far worse than an actual KKK guy looking to lynch a few people because Trump had the power to hurts millions of people.
01-30-2017 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by sportsjefe
Trump as racial opportunist doesn't directly make him racist, but it doesn't help the case that he's not racist. At all.
You are right, and i just try to relativise that he might not be the biggest racist in the World
01-30-2017 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Fatal Checkraise
At this point Bannon is probably dictating Trump's tweets:

He seems to be doing a whole lot more than that.

Calling him "President Bannon" is probably not that far off from reality.
01-30-2017 , 11:09 AM
A thread dedicated to the SCOTUS nominee written by one of legal experts would be a welcome addition.
01-30-2017 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
This appears to be a widely held belief among the right. You all think that because you might have a black friend, never say the N word, and have never attended a KKK meeting you can't be racist.

Everyone is racist. Everyone. This has been proven by social science over and over. It's like gravity. The difference is in how one deals with this fact.

Trump chooses to let his racist impulses fly at every oppertunity.

Also, a case can be made that Trump's version of racism
Is far worse than an actual KKK guy looking to lynch a few people because Trump had the power to hurts millions of people.
this whole right and left thing is a big pile of bs anyways, same as Religion. these are just tools these days to segredate People away from each other.
Just because someone does not want to have a million Muslims in his Country, because too many of them having Views on Society that are not Compatible with western culture and are infact mysoghenic, racist and discriminating about everyone that its not part of their ideology, does not mean someone has to be for Gun Legalisation or against Healthcare or against minimum Wage.
But maybe you are not able to think that critical about the world.

and yeah, everybody is racist in your mind, because you want it to be like that
01-30-2017 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Double Eagle
At what point does the call for counter demonstrations (and the possibility of clashes) start hitting the air on FNC?
I earnestly think his base is a bunch of old people. There are middle aged gun toting guys who I guess could be kind of scary, but people aren't going to go out and start yelling at their kids friends.

I'm from a rural community in Maine, vvv low info/low income/uneducated Trump voters aplenty... I just don't see it.
01-30-2017 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by sportsjefe
Trump as racial opportunist doesn't directly make him racist, but it doesn't help the case that he's not racist. At all.
This is patently false.
01-30-2017 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by piet_evil
this whole right and left thing is a big pile of bs anyways, same as Religion. these are just tools these days to segredate People away from each other.
Just because someone does not want to have a million Muslims in his Country, because too many of them having Views on Society that are not Compatible with western culture and are infact mysoghenic, racist and discriminating about everyone that its not part of their ideology, does not mean someone has to be for Gun Legalisation or against Healthcare or against minimum Wage.
But maybe you are not able to think that critical about the world.

and yeah, everybody is racist in your mind, because you want it to be like that
Saying it's in my mind is like saying gravity, the laws of thermodynamics or climate change are in my mind. These are facts. Period.
01-30-2017 , 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by d10
This Muslim ban seems like a useful test for Trump to see where the loyalties of his enforcement agencies lie. Looks like the CBP is with him.

There are a few concerning things about the way this was implemented, all of which have already been addressed, but not really tied together. This ban was done without consulting the State Department, DOJ, Congress and other agencies that you would want to have input in a policy like this. Establishment leaders from both sides have either publicly condemned the policy or at least have shown signs that they don't approve. A majority of the public is against the policy. Only his base supports it. Several judges have already ruled it unconstitutional. And none of that matters if CBP chooses to enforce it anyway.

What we've learned in the first week of Trump's presidency is he is who he showed himself to be. So what about his obsession with nuclear weapons? Using a nuclear weapon on some brown country is a decision he can make without consulting other responsible agencies in the government. He may only ask for Steve Bannon's opinion before launching. Establishment leaders and most of the public would be appalled, his base would love it. I dunno if there would be any legal challenges to the decision with all the power we've given to the President since 9/11, but it wouldn't come fast enough and again, the military could be loyal to Trump despite everything.

WAAF. All you rich white people who are like "Hey at least I'm rich and white, Trump won't affect my life that much..." nah, you're ****ed too. I wouldn't be at all surprised to wake up one morning soon to find out we nuked Tehran for no good reason. WW3 is about to kick off, and I actually don't think the US can win. Stalemate due to nuclear winter and the end of humanity, maybe. But I actually take solace in knowing that the US will be divided and alone, with any luck we get our asses kicked quickly and the ROW only insists on a regime change and a new constitution which doesn't allow for an electoral college.
Again, maybe. But Occam's Razor suggests he is a reality TV show host who doesn't know what he's doing and overrides anyone who tries to talk sense into him. "WE'RE GONNA BAN EM." He didn't turn into a super genius bc of 100k votes in the Rust Belt.

Bannon is worrying but I'm not ready to conclude that he is on level 95.

Last edited by Paul McSwizzle; 01-30-2017 at 11:38 AM.
01-30-2017 , 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Saying it's in my mind is like saying gravity, the laws of thermodynamics or climate change are in my mind. These are facts. Period.
If you say so, Racism seems to be the most important Thing in your Life, so you might be the best Racism- Expert to find
01-30-2017 , 11:19 AM
Banning piet_evil until we can figure out whats going on and introduce some extreme vetting of politics posters.
01-30-2017 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by d10
How is a civil war going to happen when most of the military and nearly all gun owners will be on Trump's side? All these protests inspire some hope that Trump will soon be unpopular enough to make impeachment a good political play, but if it leads to civil war, Trump wins and officially names himself dictator. The only way he's forcibly removed is through another country's military.
the military is a vast organization. it's a stretch to assume most of the military would be on Trump's side bc he is brash or whatever. he is clearly incompetent and everyone knows it now. people aren't going to turn on their friends/families/communities for an incompetent idiot who can't formulate a sentence.
01-30-2017 , 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by tomdemaine
Banning piet_evil until we can figure out whats going on and introduce some extreme vetting of politics posters.
lol
01-30-2017 , 11:25 AM
amazing use of caps
01-30-2017 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Bullycider
If Trump supporters were as well read, well traveled and as smart as you then they would not be Trump supporters, right?
correct.

doubt anyone admits voting for him within 10 years.
01-30-2017 , 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by dopebeats
Just recently, it seems all the rules have gone out of the window.
There is one law now in america--because trump said so.

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Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle
doubt anyone admits voting for him within 10 years.
or the other way around.
01-30-2017 , 11:37 AM
Trump mandating that every new regulation be countered by repealing two other regulations seems perfect and impossible to game.

      
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