The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. - Page 1235 - Politics and Economics

Just an FYI to scare the daylights out of everyone. Aside from the Kremlin, there are 2 groups Trump praises and never picks fights with: the police and the military.

05-10-2017 , 01:20 PM

#30853

yeSpiff

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Is the veteran US diplomat Henry Kissinger working to secure a rapprochement between the US and Moscow by pushing for an end to sanctions in exchange for the removal of Russian troops from eastern Ukraine?

A flurry of reports suggest the 93-year-old diplomat is positioning himself as a intermediary between Vladimir Putin and President-elect Donald Trump. He has publicly praised Mr Trump, and traveled to Trump Tower in New York to offer his counsel built on decades of lobbying and diplomacy.

A report in the German tabloid Der Bild headlined ‘Kissinger to prevent new Cold War’, claimed the former envoy was working towards a new relationship with Russia.

27 December 2016
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...-a7497646.html

05-10-2017 , 01:22 PM

#30854

zikzak

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Originally Posted by Bigoldnit

Maybe, but the big problem with this approach in politics (unlike many business scenarios), is that basically anything that could actually stop Trump will eventually require some public action in the form of votes, indictments, hearings, etc. There is no mechanism for privately impeaching a President.

There is certainly a way to force it, if enough people stop being casual spectators to democracy and start being active participants. Not gonna hold my breath on that, tho.

05-10-2017 , 01:30 PM

#30855

kre8tive

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigoldnit

Quote:

Originally Posted by zikzak

There is certainly a way to force it, if enough people stop being casual spectators to democracy and start being active participants. Not gonna hold my breath on that, tho.

There also is a third way, just ask the Kennedy's. Though I don't condone it, it would be much less a shame than JFK.

05-10-2017 , 01:30 PM

#30856

Sighsalot

adept

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This stupidity will backfire on the orange gorilla, bigly..

Russia probe: Senate requests Trump documents from agency that monitors money laundering
The Senate Intelligence Committee has requested information about President Donald Trump and his top aides from a financial intelligence unit in the Treasury Department.
The agency, known as FinCEN, imposed a $10 million civil penalty on Trump Taj Mahal in 2015 for multiple violations of money-laundering laws.

The Senate Intelligence Committee wants to see any information relevant to its Russia investigation the Treasury agency has gathered, including evidence that might include possible money laundering, according to a committee aide who spoke on condition of anonymity. Also at issue: to what extent, if at all, people close to Vladimir Putin have invested in Trump's real estate empire.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/10/russi...og-agency.html

05-10-2017 , 01:32 PM

#30857

dinopoker

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Originally Posted by awval999

I can totally buy this.

However, why do I have to challenge the echo chamber before we get to actual political discussion.

Anyway. I do think an independent commission is the best way for the country to move on. Have an investigation. If Trump is compromised get him out. If it's not, move on.

Yeah right, meanwhile Trump is effectively trying to install himself as the head of the so-called 'independent investigation'.

Anyone who can't see this is a damn fool.

05-10-2017 , 01:47 PM

#30858

Loki

binary duo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Money2Burn

Rand Paul watch: still no signs of a militia. His Twitter account remains silent, too.

rand paul is totally fine with this, he said everyone should stop freaking out over nothing

http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/3...r-firing-comey

05-10-2017 , 01:48 PM

#30859

champstark

aka starkwired

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 14,838

Alt-Spicy, aka daughter of Huckabee about to start

05-10-2017 , 01:49 PM

#30860

PocketChads

guaranteed 42-10 finish

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22,449

Yeah did you miss it or did Rand Paul delete his tweet about how Dems are hypocrites since they have been mean to Comey for months

05-10-2017 , 01:51 PM

#30861

bobman0330

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Originally Posted by sportsjefe

Worth noting:

https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/statu...30633569398784

The more I think about this the more repugnant it is. WTF?

05-10-2017 , 01:53 PM

#30862

Our House

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Originally Posted by champstark

Alt-Spicy, aka daughter of Huckabee and his sister about to start

05-10-2017 , 02:01 PM

#30863

th14

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Trump won't finish his term, might not even make it half way. Republican money wants low drama implementation of their agenda not this guy flailing from one scandal to the next for the entirety of his presidency. Additional damning information from the grand juries, federal prosecutors and agencies will come out and enough GOP will turn + 100% of Dems, to get him out.

John McCain on Comey firing: ‘There will be more shoes to drop’

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“This scandal is going to go on. I’ve seen it before,” McCain told a meeting of the Munich Security Conference core group. “This is a centipede. I guarantee you there will be more shoes to drop, I can just guarantee it. There’s just too much information that we don’t have that will be coming out.”

05-10-2017 , 02:01 PM

#30864

Our House

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She really got off on the wrong foot too. Wow.

05-10-2017 , 02:02 PM

#30865

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bobman0330

The more I think about this the more repugnant it is. WTF?

russian values > american values for this president. the free press is the enemy of the american people the pro-soviet authoritarian coup

05-10-2017 , 02:07 PM

#30866

microbet

Solar Powered

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 56,921

Quote:

Originally Posted by th14

Big Republican money includes more than a couple big loud mouth idiots. And history shows that even the quiet conservative Banker Republican types are okay with fascist morons.

If Trump doesn't finish his term it will be because he's done in by either the left or by Alzheimer's.

05-10-2017 , 02:09 PM

#30867

champstark

aka starkwired

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 14,838

If the FBI rank and file is actually, truly pissed, Trump is ****ed.

05-10-2017 , 02:15 PM

#30868

yeSpiff

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05-10-2017 , 02:18 PM

#30869

RV Life

old hand

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Man take away that bump over bombing Syria and Afghanistan and Trump's numbers have dropped since beginning of March.

It truly amazes me the GOP is going down with this sewer rat rather than jump ship.

05-10-2017 , 02:20 PM

#30870

RV Life

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Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 1,935

I seriously don't get it. How is Trump not toxic to your brand if you are in the GOP? Yet they stick with him like white on rice.

05-10-2017 , 02:22 PM

#30871

Klingbard

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Originally Posted by bobman0330

The more I think about this the more repugnant it is. WTF?

The President of the United States is a troll and the ****lords that support him eat this stuff up.

05-10-2017 , 02:23 PM

#30872

fatkid

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Sean Spicer 'spent several minutes hidden in the bushes

05-10-2017 , 02:28 PM

#30873

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

I seriously don't get it. How is Trump not toxic to your brand if you are in the GOP? Yet they stick with him like white on rice.

every republican voter i've ever met has been insanely misinformed. i imagine the party plan is to gaslight their base even more in the future

05-10-2017 , 02:31 PM

#30874

fatkid

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Originally Posted by Dominic

Who is Trey Gowdy?

05-10-2017 , 02:37 PM

#30875

SuperUberBob

Not interesting enough

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 48,217

Quote:

Originally Posted by yeSpiff

How the **** do you not have an opinion on Trump by this point?

Anyway, Trump will see this, drop another MOAB and his ratings will go back into the low 40s.

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