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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

05-10-2017 , 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by DVaut1
Depends how much of their amazement is sincere and how much is scripted. "Oh, we thought Democrats would LOVE this, they complained about Comey so much? Look like you can't make these guys happy, just proves how PARTISAN they are and stand in the way of Making America Great Again."

I think either scenario is plausible. If Trump decides recently that it's urgent to fire Comey and needs to invent a pretend rationale, "play dumb and pretend like you're just caving to bipartisan demands then feign surprise that you only meant to do a commendable, universally agreed on thing when the outrage arrives" is shameless and stupid but not outside the bounds of what they might cook up. These are the guys blaming Obama for empowering noted corrupted foreign agent Flynn; why not ham-handedly blame Democrats for fictional political pressure to fire Comey?
Im putting it at 99% scripted. It politico is right and Trump's told Sessions a week ago to find reasons to fire him, Sessions himself, the DoJ, or at least someone who works around there had a week to tell someone that firing an FBI director is a big deal. That and the coordinated press releases lends more towards them gaming their feigned hurt that Liberals would consider this anything more than just good governance.
05-10-2017 , 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by awval999
Got ya. So it's OK for President HRC to fire Comey for investigating her. But only after the investigation is complete. Got it!
5/9/17, awval, remember the date. That's the point of no return; when Trump straight-up turned this country into a banana Republic and you could have credibly announced that you'd changed your mind and that maybe a Trump presidency isn't the boon for rural America that you thought it would be. Instead, you've doubled down on this **** and strapped yourself onto the sinking ship with this imaginary "both sides are bad!" BS.
05-10-2017 , 08:26 AM
Yeah but Trump can't just say: I'm mad bc this Russian investigation is going to drag out for a year to find out some **** like Carter Page took a 100,000 from some Russian oligarch. So he came up with some bull**** reason, but that is like a 1/10 on the republican dishonesty scale. Some of you pearl clutchers need to start living in the real world. If Obama had realized that Comey was a dumb**** screw up and fired his ass, and not demurred to the sanctity of our most prestigious and valued institutions everyone would be a lot better off.
05-10-2017 , 08:26 AM
And while I can buy the fact that the timing of his termination is odd...

I think it's hard to be the leader of the FBI and have both sides of the aisle thinking you are wading in politics.

Obviously we will see who Trump appoints as Comey's successor, which will determine if he's trying to cover up the investigation.
05-10-2017 , 08:28 AM
WH is scripted for sure. Fox is completely ok with the firing and timing of it, and Trump has surrogates like that inbred Huckabee Sanders saying ON TV that the Russia investigation needs to go away.
05-10-2017 , 08:31 AM
Honestly the Russia investigation probably does need to go away. I mean Trump is too ****ing stupid to have known **** about it, its time to move on.
05-10-2017 , 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Our House
WH is scripted for sure. Fox is completely ok with the firing and timing of it, and Trump has surrogates like that inbred Huckabee Sanders saying ON TV that the Russia investigation needs to go away.
Now that you mention it she does look inbred as ****

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Originally Posted by BananasFoster
Honestly the Russia investigation probably does need to go away. I mean Trump is too ****ing stupid to have known **** about it, its time to move on.
wtf are you on? yesterday Dump took the single biggest action to suggest he is guilty af and you post this?

Last edited by Lilu7; 05-10-2017 at 08:39 AM.
05-10-2017 , 08:35 AM
Just read some pro trump sites and their comments section. My mind is actually blown.

I feel like one of the people who thought the earth was flat, and then finally got enough evidence to be convinced that it was round.

Legit shaken right now.
05-10-2017 , 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ASAP17
Oh really? Funny, I didn't realize the Dems had won a lot of seats in all these special elections...
by "all these special elections..." do you mean the one special election that has been decided? your grasp of the English language is lacking.

https://ballotpedia.org/Special_elec...ss_(2017-2018)
05-10-2017 , 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by rafiki
Just read some pro trump sites and their comments section. My mind is actually blown.

I feel like one of the people who thought the earth was flat, and then finally got enough evidence to be convinced that it was round.

Legit shaken right now.
Just to be clear, you are comparing flat earthers to people who would say "y'all are being hysterical about Trump. This Russia stuff (or anything else alleged against him) is just political jealousy, mudslinging as


right?
05-10-2017 , 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by awval999
And while I can buy the fact that the timing of his termination is odd...

I think it's hard to be the leader of the FBI and have both sides of the aisle thinking you are wading in politics.

Obviously we will see who Trump appoints as Comey's successor, which will determine if he's trying to cover up the investigation.
There's no plausible explanation for this firing that doesn't involve Trump being utterly corrupt. Again, we passed the point where you could have salvaged some basic decency. You're now cheering on fascism because it's funny to trigger liberals.
05-10-2017 , 09:16 AM

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05-10-2017 , 09:16 AM
+1 Clovis. One of the realest mother ****ers in the thread this year. No ****s given. No bull**** spared.
05-10-2017 , 09:17 AM
awval has been saying "the next bad thing is the thing that will cause me to have concern" since election day.
05-10-2017 , 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BananasFoster
I'm kind of perplexed with Trump as to the consternation that liberals have worked up on this Comey firing. Dude was a huge moron that irreparably damaged the country. I'm glad he got fired in such a public and humiliating way. Comey's dumb ass wasnt going to bring Trump down bc he obviously doesn't have **** or it would have leaked by now. So basically Democrats are mad at the appearance of impropriety, which is the same handwringing bulll**** they always get mad at.

He got fired because he was investigating Trump and he wouldn't roll over like the R's are doing in congress.

We don't like it because of Trump's plan of "do as I say or i'll fire you"
05-10-2017 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by awval999
Got ya. So it's OK for President HRC to fire Comey for investigating her. But only after the investigation is complete. Got it!
when did HRC fire comey?


what the actual **** are you talking about
05-10-2017 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BananasFoster
Yeah but Trump can't just say: I'm mad bc this Russian investigation is going to drag out for a year to find out some **** like Carter Page took a 100,000 from some Russian oligarch. So he came up with some bull**** reason, but that is like a 1/10 on the republican dishonesty scale. Some of you pearl clutchers need to start living in the real world. If Obama had realized that Comey was a dumb**** screw up and fired his ass, and not demurred to the sanctity of our most prestigious and valued institutions everyone would be a lot better off.
If Obama was under investigate for Treason, and fired the guy investigating him, we would be saying the exact same thing about Obama.


also

HEY GUYS WHAT ABOUT OBAMA????
05-10-2017 , 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by awval999
And while I can buy the fact that the timing of his termination is odd...

I think it's hard to be the leader of the FBI and have both sides of the aisle thinking you are wading in politics.

Obviously we will see who Trump appoints as Comey's successor, which will determine if he's trying to cover up the investigation.
spoiler - it will be someone that is more concerned with Hillary's emails than Trump's treason


gtfo
05-10-2017 , 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by prana
awval has been saying "the next bad thing is the thing that will cause me to have concern" since election day.
There's that. Plus the unbeatable circular logic of "Trump has the authority to decide, and he decided, which is what the decider does, checkmate" logic that usually goes in tandem with his warning that while this thing Trump just decided might be bad, it's only the next bad thing that might make him question Trump.

I think people are way too hard on him if only because he's probably a great window into like maybe 10-15% of the electorate. It's rare you find such proud authoritarian conformist personality on the internet where everyone is a false bravado libertarian type, and they're usually more common to encounter off of the internet. But I'm confident it's a common worldview.
05-10-2017 , 09:40 AM
So have Senate Democrats announced yet that in exchange for appointing a special investigator for the Trump investigation, that they'll vote for the Senate's AHCA bill because you know... Fair's fair...
05-10-2017 , 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
There's no plausible explanation for this firing that doesn't involve Trump being utterly corrupt. Again, we passed the point where you could have salvaged some basic decency. You're now cheering on fascism because it's funny to trigger liberals.
I don't believe you can rule out gross incompetence as the explanation in anything that Trump does. I can absolutely see these guys being surprised at the backlash this firing has brought about. Certainly not ruling out a more sinister motive.
05-10-2017 , 09:42 AM
mitch mcconnell On the floor right now saying this ain't no thing. Shocked.
05-10-2017 , 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Zimmer4141
So have Senate Democrats announced yet that in exchange for appointing a special investigator for the Trump investigation, that they'll vote for the Senate's AHCA bill because you know... Fair's fair...
No way are Democrats going to play this kind of hardball. Confident Schumer is striking a deal with Trump that in exchange for whipping Democratic votes up for passing the AHCA then Trump will formally pardon Clinton.
05-10-2017 , 09:48 AM
bad gambit by the Dems to press Rosenstein to promote a special prosecutor. Rosenstein is obv a crony now of the traveling clown show that is the Trump presidency.

like Clovis said, anything short of shutting down Senate biz until a special prosecutor was put in place is a huge fail.
05-10-2017 , 09:50 AM
Silver linings here - maybe know we will finally get to the bottom of that Whitewater business.

      
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