Also voter suppression is one of my main arguments to counter both:

[ ] Both parties are the same
[ ] Voting doesn't make a difference
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Interesting footnote: even today in this age of vicious minority voter suppression, I've heard people phrase the second as "If voting changed anything they wouldn't let you do it."

I think heavy on gotv and helping people overcome voter suppression might be a more productive use of resources than trying to convince people who is right. Do that before gotv efforts are illegal.

There may be brown people on the flights back.

That's pretty much the reasoning.

I think the GTO play is for Democrats to come out in favor of voter ID, and to offer full support if it is automatically given to people when they turn 18, it's easy to sign up and get ID later, it can be done online with scanned documents, there are offices open like 8a-8p mon-sat for a month leading up to the deadline to register, you have the option to register to vote when you renew your license, and it's all at no cost to voters.

Republicans would HATE that idea, and it would put them in a tough place politically where their only argument would be, "People will fraudulently sign up online."

I guess that convinces the olds, but with everything that you can do online in 2017, I don't think that argument holds up with a good chunk of people under 50 - even Republicans.

My most effective means for influencing still existing trump supporters is not to go after trump at all. Instead I couch my anti trump positions as being the fault of congress. There is pretty nobody who is a fan of congress.

This allows you to find common ground on issues with someone who might otherways knee jerk oppose if you bring up trump. Once you meet in this middle area of congress wanting to do bad or dumb things you can carefully expand the discourse to demonstrate trump also supports that bad view.

I have found this to be fairly effective to at least get always trump supporters at least start questioning some things.

But the brown people could fly from CDG to JFK with their evil brown laptops checked, and then whip them out for the flight home.

That's one to many levels deep for this administration.

Dude you don't need to hire a lawyer for that it's like $3 at the post office

A DC law firm? They do still have a White House Counsel, right?

Going to answer my own question here... You probably can't pay the White House Counsel extra to commit perjury. Gotta go into the private sector free markets #USA1 for that.

Press briefing went way too good for the administration. The media sucked at questions today. They didn't call out Trump's huge Flynn lying at all, and like half the reporters got duped into asking about Afghanistan. The reentry to Afghan announcement yesterday was nothing more than a possible maybe, and was very obviously timed to steal headlines away from Yates & Flynn.

Think the guy who runs my local beer store also does notarizations for $5 a pop.

Fancy Play Syndrome. Come out in favor of automatic voter registration, same day voting, weekend voting, ending the electoral college, ending gerrymandering. Get people to see the deeper systemic flaws in the system, you can't fix anything by papering over it with compromises with Republicans.

Oregon adopts nation's first automatic voter registration law
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/oregon-a...istration-law/
A big problem for Democrats is they don't strongly enough call this stuff out for what it is: intentionally racist voter suppression. They want to keep "decorum with their Senate colleagues" or whatever the ****, meanwhile the Secretary of State for Alabama is meeting with the Wetumpka Tea Party in a few weeks. You think they're going to be talking about how to compromise with liberals? No. They're going to be talking about how to crush the black electorate by completely disenfranchising them in the state.

Republicans Party Like It’s 1984
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/08/o...its-1984.html?

I'm not getting excited about that voter suppression study till it has been reviewed by someone reliable.

I've posted Ur-Fascism's clip on DoubleSpeak so many times. They're deep into it at this point.

http://www.nybooks.com/articles/1995/06/22/ur-fascism/
in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning

Presidents don't have attorney-client privilege with the White House Counsel. I know this because I watch The West Wing.

Good point. Should be easy to attack him on this... "Hey Mr. President, why do you need attorney-client privilege if there's nothing going on with Russia?"

Piece of cake, so I trust that Democrats will drop the ball.

None of that will happen federally in the next 10-15 years. The suggestion I made might slow down the voter suppression by getting Republicans to back off a little to avoid bad optics. Literally, our best case scenario right now is slowing down, not stopping, the disgusting and unjust suppression of minority votes. Unless some conservatives on SCOTUS rule against the Republicans.

Some dems are also fans of voter suppression.

It can happen and we have to be the party of imagination.

Bye Felicia?

OH MY GOD!

Good thing he pinned that tweet about not being guilty in his twitter banner, otherwise he would look guilty. He's thinking so many moves ahead.