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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

05-09-2017 , 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by otatop
Yeah the right move in this situation was obviously to rape the guy.
I chuckled.
05-09-2017 , 11:51 AM
Humor. Im telling you you can get away with all kinds of harsh criticism of trump and even his supporters if you dress it up right. Plant those seeds.

Not that that is the best way to get trump out. Like the other guy said the apathetic non voters should be the main target.
05-09-2017 , 11:53 AM
Someone desperately needs to ask "If gov can't afford to help everyone why are you cutting taxes on the ultra wealthy"
05-09-2017 , 11:58 AM
The deplorables are going to move to the right once Trump fails
05-09-2017 , 12:09 PM
Spicey complaining last week that the press plays gotcha with him all the time. Welp, they are gonna railroad him today and he knows it. Too bad we can't question POTUS anymore. Remember when he used to pride himself on how he did press conferences all the time while Hillary hid from them? How's he making out now that he's the treasonous criminal? I don't know if there is anything left for him to hypocrite about. He's done literally everything he said others shouldn't.
05-09-2017 , 12:13 PM
Yeah, I guess he gets off on it.
05-09-2017 , 12:17 PM
especially the golf ****. he probably fantasized about that for 2 years knowing he would be the courses every weekend and making the government pay for it.
05-09-2017 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Bob is sitting at the dinner table. Everyone else gets a plate of food except Bob. Bob says, "Bob Deserves Food." Everyone at the table responds with "Everyone Deserves Food" and continues eating. Although Everyone Deserves Food is a true statement, it does nothing to actually rectify the fact that Bob doesn't have any food.

"**** bob" - DS
05-09-2017 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!
The deplorables are going to move to the right once Trump fails
There's not much further right that they can go without taking up arms against the government. I suspect mostly they'll be dejected and will stop voting. Maybe I'm dreaming.
05-09-2017 , 01:17 PM
A Trump presidency would not be complete without a good ol' civil war that he isn't able to prevent.
05-09-2017 , 01:24 PM
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...93986436866049

Look at that photo. It's pretty much the negative of the Trumpcare one. ('cept for the whiteness)
05-09-2017 , 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
GG tourism industry.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-elect...bly-expanding/

Flights with small children about to get A LOT more fun!
Well, guess I won't be getting any work done when I travel this fall.
05-09-2017 , 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Noze
Well, guess I won't be getting any work done when I travel this fall.
Have they even said what this is ostensibly trying to prevent? Like, you are allowed to fly out of an American airport to a (potentially) scary airport like Charles De Gualle with your laptop, and you can fly back with your laptop in your checked luggage. So the threat is...laptop bombs that can only be triggered in the user's hands and that would make it through CDG security but not JFK?

Last edited by MrWookie; 05-09-2017 at 01:41 PM.
05-09-2017 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Noze
Well, guess I won't be getting any work done when I travel this fall.
Yeah, I can't imagine the corporate world is going to be too happy about that. Both in terms of lost productivity during the flight, and the fact that you'd have to take computers with potentially sensitive information into the TSA black hole of checked luggage.
05-09-2017 , 01:39 PM
The 2016 election was STOLEN by a party that HATES democracy.


https://twitter.com/thenation/status/861947227505381377
05-09-2017 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by MrWookie
Have they even said what this is ostensibly trying to prevent? Like, you are allowed to fly out of an American airport to a (potentially) scary airport like Charles De Gualle with your laptop, and you can fly back with your laptop in your checked luggage. So the threat is...laptop bombs that can only be triggered in the user's hands and that would make it through CDG security but not JFK?
I've no idea if this is related, but I know there have been some security flaws when it comes to the in flight entertainment systems on planes and the rest of the planes' processing/networking -- in other words, airlines have had all of that on the same network.

edit: this would also imply that we don't care about outgoing flights for...reasons. So it seems unlikely that this is the reason why.
05-09-2017 , 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by zipppy
I've no idea if this is related, but I know there have been some security flaws when it comes to the in flight entertainment systems on planes and the rest of the planes' processing/networking -- in other words, airlines have had all of that on the same network.

edit: this would also imply that we don't care about outgoing flights for...reasons. So it seems unlikely that this is the reason why.
Yeah, that would be an airline by airline issue, not a airport by airport issue. Surely a Turkish Airlines flight would be just as vulnerable flying out of SFO as it would be flying out of Istanbul.
05-09-2017 , 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
The 2016 election was STOLEN by a party that HATES democracy.


https://twitter.com/thenation/status/861947227505381377
Stolen by a country that hates democracy too.



Not that Trump will EVER admit it, right? Even if he was useful idiot regarding the election meddling, his ego won't allow him to have had help.
05-09-2017 , 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by crimedopay420
Like the goal isn't to help Nazis see the error of their ways.
This may be true for Hitler and those making up his regime, but do you really think the average German enlisted man started out as such cruel and bigoted people? I shutter to think so. Rather, I think the phenomenon was that they were drawn in by the establishment. It's amazing what people are capable of under a herd mentality (which I claim is exactly how I think a person like Trump got elected).

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They're way too ****ing stupid to ever understand. Nothing is happening in their frontal lobes. I think the reason for that is the GOP suppresses education, but I digress.
And I think the reason is mob mentality. Interesting debate, but I agree with +rep that there are very important things going on right now and this derails the thread. I just don't know where else to push my "people are generally good" philosophy on intolerant people.

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The goal is to keep other people from becoming Nazis.
This makes no sense to me precisely because there obviously already exists enough of them that racism is still a huge problem. Even if you succeed and prevent zero more people from becoming racist, it won't have solved racism because it already exists!

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And also to inspire people to get off the sidelines and start kicking Nazis in the balls. Calling racists racist is an effective way to do that.
Okay so you admit your end goal is ball kicking. Maybe your reaction to a swift kick in the nuts is to comply with the kicker. But most react negatively and defensively and are not likely to come around to your way of thinking.
05-09-2017 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Don't engage deplorables, it's hopeless. Way better ROI trying to convince indifferents who aren't already gone.
Which is why you engage the deplorables in a public setting. Get them to expose their true selves to the indifferents.

I was a lurker on TheMotleyFool boards in the late 90s. I didn't know **** about stocks. But over time I came to realize the dotcom bears had all the good arguments, while the bulls basically had "ppppttttthhhh - if this is true why does my stock keep going up?"
05-09-2017 , 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Stolen by a country that hates democracy too.



Not that Trump will EVER admit it, right? Even if he was useful idiot regarding the election meddling, his ego won't allow him to have had help.
And it makes **** like this so much soooooooooo infuriating.


https://twitter.com/AynRandPaulRyan/...03140622602240
05-09-2017 , 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by NMcNasty
Yeah not one on one, his comments were made in front of other people. Him saying "respect your elders" and you immediately shutting up afterward isn't really a good look.
I'd focus less time talking to Trump supporters over 40. Their minds are completely made up. We need to interact with teenagers and university students about avoiding nationalism. Here's a great article on it:

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Events at age 18 are about three times as powerful as those at age 40, according to the model.
How Birth Year Influences Political Views

Teenagers and young adults are more responsive to alternative lines of thought and can be influenced by well-reasoned statements. On top of that, they may have the curiosity to go further.

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On the other hand, Trumpkins are simple, selfish people. You just have to find what would break their support and then point out something Trump has done that breaks it. Abstract concepts don't work because they cannot be understood by them. Everything has to be practical, concrete and directly related to their own well-being.

Use Socratic questioning to break down their reasoning when they provide it. If they cannot see why their reasoning does not hold up under scrutiny then they are a lost cause and should be ignored.
05-09-2017 , 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
And it makes **** like this so much soooooooooo infuriating.
Issa's the ****ing worst California rep, it's gonna be beautiful when that ****head loses in 2018.
05-09-2017 , 02:19 PM
WH discrediting Yates from the podium of course. "A political opponent of the President."
05-09-2017 , 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
It's not TV, he's done it his whole life and it's never backfired on him. The joke is on us, for believing that the hero always wins like TV b/c someone stops them when usually nobody actually does.
I think we're learning life is essentially the end of Luke Cage where:

Spoiler:
Mariah walks away completely unscathed and Luke goes back to jail.

      
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