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05-08-2017 , 05:02 AM

#30276

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Originally Posted by microbet

Hillary should have said she was going to make it more better.

Wouldn't have been enough. Trump would've just come back with making it most bestest, and Hillary would've lacked the vision to respond with most bestest X infinity.

05-08-2017 , 06:39 AM

#30277

champstark

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Originally Posted by HastenDan

I don't think it is highly likely that Trump runs in 2020.

He LOVES campaigning. No way he DOESN'T run.

He may get primaried, though.

05-08-2017 , 07:12 AM

#30278

Money2Burn

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Phillip Morris put in charge of cancer research

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/0....html?referer=

Another dog whistle laid bare. The "sound science" the Republican Party has always said it wants regulations based on was just industry-controlled science.

05-08-2017 , 07:16 AM

#30279

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Originally Posted by champstark

He LOVES campaigning. No way he DOESN'T run.

He may get primaried, though.

He's auditioning as we speak. How's he doing?

One thing Dems & Reps can agree on is his incompetence - for opposite reasons of course.

05-08-2017 , 07:32 AM

#30280

raradevils

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Originally Posted by einbert

You're getting close to the root of the problem, but think bigger.

If we want less crime, corruption, violence, drug use, and suffering, we have to create a system where everyone can thrive, not just politicians. That means a Universal Living Wage, Universal College (including trade school), Universal Health Care, and Universal Right to Vote and have Free and Fair Elections.

Unfortunately these are all things the Republican party are strongly aligned against. They don't want us to have a better society.

This was all tried and the soviet union went bust.

05-08-2017 , 07:41 AM

#30281

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So, of that list:

Universal Living Wage
Universal College (including trade school)
Universal Health Care
Universal Right to Vote and have Free and Fair Elections

...which do you have a problem with?

05-08-2017 , 07:44 AM

#30282

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

Give him some time to look up what Trump says about each before he posts his opinions.

05-08-2017 , 07:53 AM

#30283

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Originally Posted by watevs

2:30 on CSPAN3 off the top of my head

Didn't realize it was Clapper too

No Brennan though. I am leaning towards his testimony being worse for the administration than Clapper and Yates combined. Let's all remember how Spicey said "I hope [Yates] testifies" a few weeks ago. Would be really nice if Yates surprises us ONE TIME dealer!

05-08-2017 , 08:08 AM

#30284

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

Let me walk out back to the money tree and see which ones we can afford.

05-08-2017 , 08:27 AM

#30285

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Originally Posted by raradevils

Let me walk out back to the money tree and see which ones we can afford.

I have to read this comment at the same time Trump is shoveling our tax dollars into his pockets with both hands.

05-08-2017 , 08:30 AM

#30286

Money2Burn

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Originally Posted by raradevils

Let me walk out back to the money tree and see which ones we can afford.

Rara, who I doubt has ever complained on this forum about actual increases to military spending, rarely misses a chance to whine that we can't afford theoretical increases to programs that actually help people.

05-08-2017 , 08:37 AM

#30287

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Originally Posted by raradevils

Let me walk out back to the money tree and see which ones we can afford.

If we as a society deem them important, all of them. Easily.

05-08-2017 , 08:42 AM

#30288

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Originally Posted by raradevils

Let me walk out back to the money tree and see which ones we can afford.

Quote:

As you can see, the US trails by 7.7 to 11.6 percentage points. If we multiply the 7.7 percentage points by the $190 trillion GDP, that gives us a $14.6 trillion difference. Which is to say: if the US had Swedish levels of social spending, its 10-year social spending budget would be $14.6 trillion higher than it currently is. To get up to Finnish levels, it would be $22 trillion higher.

This means that if we want to get up to Nordic levels of public welfare expenditure (and we do), the US needs to increase social expenditure by at least $15 trillion. So the next time a journalist says some social program costs an unbelievable $1.5 trillion over 10 years, just think “ah one-tenth of the way there!”

http://mattbruenig.com/2017/05/03/th...re-on-welfare/

05-08-2017 , 08:46 AM

#30289

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Originally Posted by Our House

Definitely looking forward to the WH being shamed hard, hopefully to the point that it causes a slip-up or something really juicy.

The promotion of Yates has been crazy the last few days. I'll be pretty pissed if nothing happens.

We are on it

05-08-2017 , 08:49 AM

#30290

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Originally Posted by Money2Burn

**** that! We're staring down the barrel of a GOP government that feels they need $800B in tax cuts so badly they're willing to jack the weakest and most vulnerable for it. **** that! **** that mother****ing ****ety ****. And they're just getting started??

05-08-2017 , 08:50 AM

#30291

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No leaks! NO!

05-08-2017 , 08:52 AM

#30292

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I'm setting my expectations REALLY low for this Sally Yates thing.

Busted out my popcorn and been disappointed way too many times recently.

05-08-2017 , 08:54 AM

#30293

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Originally Posted by raradevils

This was all tried and the soviet union went bust.

Quote:

Originally Posted by raradevils

Let me walk out back to the money tree and see which ones we can afford.

lol ya dude. free and fair elections were definitely a characteristic of the soviet union.

and they definitely cost a ton of money. far too much money to strive for.

like, how is it possible to be so utterly brainwashed?

05-08-2017 , 08:55 AM

#30294

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Originally Posted by eyebooger

I'm setting my expectations REALLY low for this Sally Yates thing.

Busted out my popcorn and been disappointed way too many times recently.

It will be a nothing burger. Dems still far too spineless and republicans wouldn't care if she showed up with video of Trump being handed money by Putin.

After the vote last week it's clear there is nothing, and I mean nothing, that will cause repbubicams to turn on trump.

They care about one thing only, tax cuts for rich people. If there was a rider on the tax cut bill that gave the Kremlin veto power over the US it would not lose a single republican vote.

05-08-2017 , 09:01 AM

#30295

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Eric Trumpkin is pushing back on the Russian golf course payouts, saying the reporter is lying and denying he said anything about it. I guess he doesn't want Daddy to be mad at him for leaks.

05-08-2017 , 09:08 AM

#30296

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Phillip Morris put in charge of cancer research

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/0....html?referer=

And also, let's keep focusing on tearing ourselves down over the optics of Obama giving a relatively unremarkable speech for a relatively unremarkable sum.

05-08-2017 , 09:08 AM

#30297

Chippa58

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Originally Posted by fatkid

We are on it

W.H. Council? Does he mean counsel? Geez...this guy.

05-08-2017 , 09:10 AM

#30298

Loki

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trump aims to screw black people directly, in move that shocks no one

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...onstitutional/

05-08-2017 , 09:11 AM

#30299

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Originally Posted by raradevils

This was all tried and the soviet union went bust.

It wasn't social programs that busted the USSR.

05-08-2017 , 09:29 AM

#30300

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Originally Posted by raradevils

Let me walk out back to the money tree and see which ones we can afford.

Why do you think we can't afford all of them given how much money we spend on significantly less important stuff and raising our military budget every chance we get.

I don't think people understand how much flipping money we have because we do such a poor job spending it.

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