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05-07-2017 , 10:43 PM

#30251

Our House

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Originally Posted by Kirbynator

putting it another way: Trump might've been the only person capable of killing the alt right xeonophobic movement and the GOP in one stone. I mean, it's a kidney stone, but it'll pass.

Might not even get a full term.

God help us if he does. I can see what you're saying now, after 105 days. Trust me, the effect after 4 full years will be beyond repair. He's only going to get worse as the end nears.

05-07-2017 , 10:46 PM

#30252

uDevil

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"I didn't listen." Jesus, lady.

https://twitter.com/60Minutes/status/861369050554925056

05-07-2017 , 11:03 PM

#30253

watevs

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05-07-2017 , 11:05 PM

#30254

watevs

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Originally Posted by Our House

Definitely looking forward to the WH being shamed hard, hopefully to the point that it causes a slip-up or something really juicy.

The promotion of Yates has been crazy the last few days. I'll be pretty pissed if nothing happens.

It already seems to be kinda 'out' what she is going to say, she'll say that she warned the WH about Flynn and make Pence look like crap, or if we're lucky, like a full on liar

Speculation seems to be that anything more than that would be classified

I think Kirby is right

05-07-2017 , 11:06 PM

#30255

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirbynator

putting it another way: Trump might've been the only person capable of killing the alt right xenophobic movement and the GOP in one stone. I mean, it's a kidney stone, but it'll pass.

Might not even get a full term.

All Republicans have to do to continue winning long-term is continue to successfully dismantle our election system. If they can suppress enough votes in 2018 and 2020 and if we don't beat them with great force, they can turn the next ten years into a living hell by controlling the redistricting process in 2020. Don't get complacent.

05-07-2017 , 11:07 PM

#30256

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Heeeeere come the judges. Trump expected to nominate a group of federal judges possibly as early as tomorrow, regular slates of noninees to continue, perhaps monthly. Without the filibuster, I'd think they could get most of them through at a pretty brisk pace, yes?

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/05/0...ervatives.html

05-07-2017 , 11:07 PM

#30257

Louis Cyphre

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From 60 minutes interview:
"He (Trump) said:'We're going to make our economy better' and I did like that idea."

That is indeed a revolutionary idea. I can see how that kind of out of the box thinking appeals to the sophiscated voter.

05-07-2017 , 11:16 PM

#30258

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Standard populist campaign BS from Trump. "[It's] gonna be great. So easy." Until it's time to do whatever thing he was talking about.

05-07-2017 , 11:18 PM

#30259

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Hillary should have said she was going to make it more better.

05-07-2017 , 11:21 PM

#30260

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If we can somehow prove Trump became POTUS illegitimately, how much is reversible? Supreme Court? Appointed officials (who don't also go down)? Monies earned? Bills passed? Anything??

05-07-2017 , 11:25 PM

#30261

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Originally Posted by Our House

If we can somehow prove Trump became POTUS illegitimately, how much is reversible? Supreme Court? Appointed officials (who don't also go down)? Monies earned? Bills passed? Anything??

05-07-2017 , 11:26 PM

#30262

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Yeah, God help the USA.

05-07-2017 , 11:45 PM

#30263

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Originally Posted by Our House

The promotion of Yates has been crazy the last few days. I'll be pretty pissed if nothing happens.

there's way too many people wanting something that just isn't gonna happen or didn't.

That said, she should force these people to acknowledge the Flynn stuff instead of just ignoring it--who they'll promptly throw under the bus, that's something at least. If people are expecting or wanting more they're pretty dumb.

Also, she'll get painted as an obama appointee trying to bring down trump, so it won't matter at all to trump supporters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

If we can somehow prove Trump became POTUS illegitimately, how much is reversible? Supreme Court? Appointed officials (who don't also go down)? Monies earned? Bills passed? Anything??

Only the money he's gotten has any chance.

05-07-2017 , 11:57 PM

#30264

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Originally Posted by awval999

It isn't all unicorns and rainbows. Throwing more money at the health care industrial complex won't fix it.

Sounds like a compelling argument for nationalizing the whole enterprise.

05-07-2017 , 11:59 PM

#30265

HastenDan

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I don't think it is highly likely that Trump runs in 2020.

05-08-2017 , 12:03 AM

#30266

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what happens with the money hes been getting for the 2020 campaign if he doesnt?

05-08-2017 , 12:06 AM

#30267

HastenDan

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Haha not sure, though when there is a will there is a way I reckon.

05-08-2017 , 12:18 AM

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Phillip Morris put in charge of cancer research

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The Environmental Protection Agency has dismissed at least five members of a major scientific review board, the latest signal of what critics call a campaign by the Trump administration to shrink the agency’s regulatory reach by reducing the role of academic research.

A spokesman for the E.P.A. administrator, Scott Pruitt, said he would consider replacing the academic scientists with representatives from industries whose pollution the agency is supposed to regulate, as part of the wide net it plans to cast. “The administrator believes we should have people on this board who understand the impact of regulations on the regulated community,” said the spokesman, J. P. Freire.

The dismissals on Friday came about six weeks after the House passed a bill aimed at changing the composition of another E.P.A. scientific review board to include more representation from the corporate world.

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05-08-2017 , 12:38 AM

#30269

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Phillip Morris put in charge of cancer research

Welcome to Trump's America, where fox in charge of the hen house is a recurring theme.

My wife and I had our own ecig company for 5 years. Something like this is a nightmare to deal with. The **** big tobacco and big pharma pulled was incredible.

05-08-2017 , 12:47 AM

#30270

OmgGlutten!

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http://thehill.com/policy/energy-env...s-climate-pact

Only Ivanka can save us.

05-08-2017 , 01:02 AM

#30271

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Trumpkins have really ****ed things up.

05-08-2017 , 01:29 AM

#30272

fuluck414

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Anyone know what time the hearing is supposed to start tomorrow?

05-08-2017 , 01:31 AM

#30273

watevs

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2:30 on CSPAN3 off the top of my head

Didn't realize it was Clapper too

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05-08-2017 , 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

Texas legislators were originally not paid or paid virtually nothing and corruption was insane because you couldn't be a legislator and work any amount of hours and make a living so the only thing to do was to have implicit or explicit quid pro quos with companies to be paid lobbyists after the term. Eventually Texas paid their legislators something, though it's still something like 20k, it's envisioned as a part time job for some reason, and the outrageous examples of corruption ended though obviously the pay is too low and corruption is still endemic but not as crazy as the early years of the state.

To be fair they only have sessions every other year. It's not a horrible foundation for a better government but it was absolutely corrupted and as horrible as any other.