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05-06-2017 , 01:25 AM
There's some definite bull**** going on in any anti-Elizabeth Warren talk from the "left". I don't know if it's some sexism or if it's some kind of sneaky divide and conquer strategy by the DemE or a little of each, but something stinks.
05-06-2017 , 01:29 AM
its definitely sexist, I personally dont think she should run not because im sexist but because i dont want sexism to affect another dnc defeat. The risk is just too big.

I'm pretty sure that idea is affecting a lot of people on the left too.

The least similar to Hillary the better, sucks for her.
05-06-2017 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
its definitely sexist, I personally dont think she should run not because im sexist but because i dont want sexism to affect another dnc defeat. The risk is just too big.
Yup. I love me some Warren but she need to stay away from the nom. Then again it's a pretty solid theory that any meat blob in human form that was not HILLARY Clinton could of beat Orange.
05-06-2017 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Dan,
- how did you know einbert does speedrunning?
- why do you think anyone who speedruns is uneducated?
When he accused me of being a Russian shill, a neonazi fascist Trump supporter, and the like I went who does this guy think he is with these vile baseless attacks, so wanting to know my attacker I read his writings.

I don't think anyone who speedruns is uneducated, I think that he is, as evidenced by his posts which display both a weak knowledge base and faulty critical thinking. It was a passing comment after he literally either failed to comprehend what was being discussed, or deliberately mischaracterized the position being taken in the discussion. Thomas Bayes would lean towards the latter.

Shocking you never seemed so interested in your good friends literally attacking people as neo-nazis and white supremacists.
05-06-2017 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
its definitely sexist, I personally dont think she should run not because im sexist but because i dont want sexism to affect another dnc defeat. The risk is just too big.

I'm pretty sure that idea is affecting a lot of people on the left too.

The least similar to Hillary the better, sucks for her.
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Originally Posted by fatkid
Yup. I love me some Warren but she need to stay away from the nom. Then again it's a pretty solid theory that any meat blob in human form that was not HILLARY Clinton could of beat Orange.
Four years is a long way away and who knows who from the Dems will be in what position then - and if Trump's brain doesn't already look like the one on the right now it sure will by then.



I'm just wondering what's up and I think on one side it is sexism, but there seems to be a more mainstream anti-Warren thing going on as well.
05-06-2017 , 01:52 AM
She's not in bed with Wall St., Microbet. That's all there is to it.
05-06-2017 , 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
There's some definite bull**** going on in any anti-Elizabeth Warren talk from the "left". I don't know if it's some sexism or if it's some kind of sneaky divide and conquer strategy by the DemE or a little of each, but something stinks.
Warren would be my dream candidate for president but the worry is that she does not match up well with Trump. We need to win more than anything.
05-06-2017 , 02:00 AM
Dan you call people homophobes, racists, neo-corporate shills on Correct the Record's payroll, and so forth all the time.

You can't suddenly pretend to be Miss Manners when people hurt your feelings by saying bad stuff about Trump voters.

I'm seriously just trying to help you out here buddy, either way you go you can still troll the dang libtards, but picking either no-holds-barred ****posting or fedora'd-civility-discourse would be 100% more effective than your current strategy.
05-06-2017 , 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
When he accused me of being a Russian shill, a neonazi fascist Trump supporter, and the like I went who does this guy think he is with these vile baseless attacks, so wanting to know my attacker I read his writings.
Can you expand on this? Because searching for relevant keywords in einbert's post history, stuff about his Twitch channel or speedrunning is from, like, late 2014/early 2015, a long time before you registered here (not to mention, way over in the Video Games forum). What exactly does "reading the writings" of your attackers look like, are you compiling a ****ing dossier over there? This **** seems well beyond the 1st level attacks people levy on you of calling you a white supremacist or a Trump supporter or whatever because, obviously, you post like a white supremacist or a Trump supporter - not because they've done supremely creepy internet research on you.
05-06-2017 , 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by einbert
This is an investigation into Colbert/CBS but it's meant to be a message to smaller outlets, journalists, writers, etc. It's a chilling message designed to terrify anyone who might criticize the President. Colbert/CBS can afford a huge fine, most people absolutely cannot.
Dont worry the proud boys and alt right will be all over them since they are the new voice of free speech rights.

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Originally Posted by Riverman
Dems are still calling this bill "ACHA."

They have witnessed bull**** messaging crushing them for like 30 years and they can't get their **** together on calling this "Republicare?" Seriously? Should probably keep electing Nancy Pelosi to leadership
This is what i dont get. Democrats/Liberals (mostly) are the best painters, writers, musicians, comics, artistic thinkers in general. But they suck at the art of marketing simplistic messages the masses will buy.

Maybe the DNC needs to hire some 80's pop musicians...

Last edited by batair; 05-06-2017 at 02:24 AM.
05-06-2017 , 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
There's some definite bull**** going on in any anti-Elizabeth Warren talk from the "left". I don't know if it's some sexism or if it's some kind of sneaky divide and conquer strategy by the DemE or a little of each, but something stinks.
Naw, the DemE likes her, the anti-Warren stuff is either defeatist stuff about how we can't risk running a woman again(might be wrong, but fair argument) or people who are like 3 posts away from complaining about how did she affirmative action fraud by pretending to be Native American.

IMO, one reason right wingers like Dan and Lestat are comfortable praising Sanders compared to her is that there is no chance he ever runs for President again, if he was 10 years younger they'd see him as a threat.
05-06-2017 , 02:08 AM
Fly,

As always thanks for the tips chief. And as always, I call you a racist and a homophobe and a Hillary apologist, because we both know that is what you are. And even then it was still only after your lies and attacks, that is just how thoughtful I am in my fedora for you.

Goofy,

Sorry if the idea that wanting to know who the person that is lying about me and attacking me as a ****ing neo-nazi fascist is seems completely foreign to you. And again, such a weird focus of yours, you seem to pick your battles and your friends very strangely. I wonder why hm?
05-06-2017 , 02:14 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Can you expand on this? Because searching for relevant keywords in einbert's post history, stuff about his Twitch channel or speedrunning is from, like, late 2014/early 2015, a long time before you registered here (not to mention, way over in the Video Games forum). What exactly does "reading the writings" of your attackers look like, are you compiling a ****ing dossier over there?
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
Goofy,

Sorry if the idea that wanting to know who the person that is lying about me and attacking me as a ****ing neo-nazi fascist is seems completely foreign to you.
Jesus christ, this really is exactly as creepy as it sounded.

Dan why do you put so much energy into this multicultural dance party image you project when you're clearly a freak and a weird dude? Holy **** you went through einbert's video games post from 2-3 years ago to hit him with this insult about being a...GAMER. Wow.
05-06-2017 , 02:16 AM
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Mistyped in the one post. But my point is simply that I disagree that the system favors a broke ass white person over a middle class person of color.

Sorry guys, but ol Appalachian JimBob under the poverty line is kind of less favored than a middle class person of color by "the system". That assertion is absurd. "Look at hiring practices, look at leadership roles", uhhh okay?
He has like 20 posts in a row insisting middle class blacks have it better than poor whites. What an interesting hill to die on.
05-06-2017 , 02:19 AM
Research projects to build a dossier of personalized owns for liberal posters: Yes

Disagreeing with a single Trump supporter: Just can't find the time
05-06-2017 , 02:20 AM
Goofy,

it was literally the first thing that came up when checking to see who this person was that was calling me a neo-nazi white supremacist russian shill. But appreciate you calling me a liar and being so outraged. And again, such weird direction, wonder why.
05-06-2017 , 02:21 AM
Just checking in to see what a great job y'all are doing engaging HastenDan
05-06-2017 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
Goofy,

it was literally the first thing that came up when checking to see who this person was that was calling me a neo-nazi white supremacist russian shill.
Can you explain how posts about video games from 2014 were "literally the first thing that came up when checking to see who this person was that was calling me a neo-nazi white supremacist russian shill"?

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Originally Posted by HastenDan
But appreciate you calling me a liar and being so outraged. And again, such weird direction, wonder why.
Again, Dan, it's hard to have a lot of sympathy for you getting called a white supremacist when you often post like one. As I've stated multiple times before I believe you that you are who you say you are, but that doesn't mean I have to feel bad when other people apply Occam's razor and more skepticism to your ****ty posting than I do.

Maybe I'd spend more time defending your progressive honor if you spent more time actually posting like one?
05-06-2017 , 02:31 AM
Goofy,

"Who is this person that is attacking me as being a neo-nazi white supremacist and calling me a Russian shill?"

*hit search button, type in username and select non-politics forums*, hit search, skim results page.

"Oh it is some white dude bigly into speedrunning". Net maybe 30 seconds to compile sick dossier for them sick burns bro.

And I post like a white supremacist huh? Gotcha. Thanki-sai.
05-06-2017 , 02:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
theres also another way to put it

fox news is by far the most watched entertainment
fixed.

Fox News seems to be the perfect show to allow those people to not confront their cognitive dissonance. The chart that showed that Repubs. think that whites and Christians are more discriminated against then black people tells it all. People do live in different realities.

Last edited by JacktheDumb; 05-06-2017 at 02:51 AM.
05-06-2017 , 02:50 AM
Paul can't resist a tax cut. The guy is a crook. Probably has already calculated it.

Cruz does what the donors say. McCain will die soon, got reelected, maybe he will be a surprise no out of hate for FC and Trump.
05-06-2017 , 03:24 AM
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Originally Posted by JacktheDumb
fixed.

Fox News seems to be the perfect show to allow those people to not confront their cognitive dissonance. The chart that showed that Repubs. think that whites and Christians are more discriminated against then black people tells it all. People do live in different realities.
Someone needs to figure out how to kill channel z or make a left leaning one.

05-06-2017 , 03:34 AM
It's simple. Women voted for Trump because...
Jesus >> White >>> Woman
05-06-2017 , 03:57 AM
1) At the current rate, the United States will NEVER be the same at the end of only a single Trump term. He's got his hands into everything, in a bad bad way.
2) I wish #1 was hyperbole. In fact, what I said downplays reality by quite a bit.
05-06-2017 , 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
I'm not surprised women voted for Trump.

Remember, a lot of the older voters grew up in an age where the mother was expected to be obedient.

Just look at this random ad from the 1950's I found. Took me 20 seconds.



It just shows the culture that was accepted. "*****, you burned dinner but I'm not gonna hit you because at least you didn't burn my beer. Now grab a tissue and quit crying before I give you something to cry about."

These voters grew up in a culture where this **** was normal behavior they saw every day.

Fast forward 50 years.

So now you got this 70 year old clown yelling and screaming telling people what to do and what have you. Add in #MAGA and there's a nostalgic factor. We see Trump as this inept buffoon but a lot of voters gravitated towards his rhetoric because they could relate to it. It brought them back to their childhood and made them realize how much the country has "changed."

#MAGA



      
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