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05-05-2017 , 07:17 PM
Dan got more emotional at libtards being mean to awval's post about the benefits of forced euthanasia than he did about the AHCA passing, come on.

So like I said, gimme that email. Could be very profitable for you! You could fund a big party for all the Good Faith Friends you've made by inexplicably giving right wingers every benefit of every doubt on the internet.
05-05-2017 , 07:21 PM
Where do I find a forum that isn't about dunking on people
05-05-2017 , 07:24 PM
wait he really stalked einbert and found out his facebook and used info from that as ammo to criticize him? jesus what a scumbag. like that is just mindbottling grotesque.
05-05-2017 , 07:26 PM
W,

Chiefsplanet
05-05-2017 , 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
The GOP has the presidency, Senate, House, Supreme Court.

At the state level, 25/50 states have GOP governor + both houses of legislature.

Yes, they keep winning.
And somehow without having the majority of voters on their side.
05-05-2017 , 07:27 PM
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The reason for the change is that a decision from the current administration administrative officials has requested that all monitors, under our control, on the White Oak Campus, display FOX news.
FDA to people wondering there why they couldn't change fox news off the TV's.
05-05-2017 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dinopoker
And somehow without having the majority of voters on their side.
That's the insane thing about Dems. They couldn't pass universal background checks for guns, which polls as high as 95%. NINETY FIVE.
05-05-2017 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
I absolutely believe what I'm saying. It's not important or anything, and yeah, dunking is what we do here on two plus two dot com, but I'm sincere.

Not sure why you think Victor and I and like everyone else are insincere but Dan isn't. So you are aware of the concept of lying?
I think a good number of the Dan haters do sincerely believe he's rightwing. If you read his posts only occasionally, you'll get lot of stuff about neoliberal shills, and you quoting all of those posts and calling him a rightwinger. It's possible to sincerely hold that view. I don't think you hold it sincerely though. You hold it as a matter of convenience. It's a good bludgeon to use against him. It's like our discussion about David Sklansky. You call him a Trump supporter constantly, but when we expanded on that, it turns out that you don't think he actually voted for Trump, and he probably voted for Clinton if anyone, but he's really a Trump supporter on the inside, well maybe just more of a rightwinger generally. That's similar to what I think you think about HD, like he's a Ron Paul guy deep down, and you're gonna take that idea and carry it much further in your posts about him.
05-05-2017 , 07:46 PM
My read on Dan is that he is a fairly thoughtful guy with deeply ingrained, subconscious, O'Reilly style nonsense. So like he wants to be objective, but he keeps butting up against horrible values he doesn't even really know he has.
05-05-2017 , 07:47 PM
ATC- Dan was an outspoken supporter of Ron Paul on his prior account
05-05-2017 , 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
My read on Dan is that he is a fairly thoughtful guy with deeply ingrained, subconscious, O'Reilly style nonsense. So like he wants to be objective, but he keeps butting up against horrible values he doesn't even really know he has.
I've talked about this before, but it's actually slightly encouraging at how "liberal" was a dirty word in the 1990s and now libertarians who clearly only consume white male-resentment porn RW media still want to self-identify as progressive.
05-05-2017 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by AllTheCheese
I think a good number of the Dan haters do sincerely believe he's rightwing. If you read his posts only occasionally, you'll get lot of stuff about neoliberal shills, and you quoting all of those posts and calling him a rightwinger. It's possible to sincerely hold that view. I don't think you hold it sincerely though. You hold it as a matter of convenience. It's a good bludgeon to use against him. It's like our discussion about David Sklansky. You call him a Trump supporter constantly, but when we expanded on that, it turns out that you don't think he actually voted for Trump, and he probably voted for Clinton if anyone, but he's really a Trump supporter on the inside, well maybe just more of a rightwinger generally. That's similar to what I think you think about HD, like he's a Ron Paul guy deep down, and you're gonna take that idea and carry it much further in your posts about him.
dude. the guy repeatedly supported the pizzagate conspiracy.

I look at things like whos side are you on. I think fly does too. dan is on the other side. he does everything he can to divide the left. he perpetuates arguments about small issues that are meaningless. see this most recent discussion about end of life care. that is a minuscule issue in this whole debate but he clings to it. he uses it to divide his enemies on the left.

and I mean, he stalked einbert. wtf is that.
05-05-2017 , 07:50 PM
The level of stupidity on Facebook is just amazing.


Peoplr were dying Obama care. Don't believe media and there will be lots of revisions. I would wait to judge until it's said and done. Nothing can be worse than Obama care.

Followed by this gem.

I for one will be seriously doing my happy dance if my $10K a year hc premium with a $3500 deductible gets lowered. We cannot afford this massive bill each month and not be covered for ANYTHING. Women's healthcare for free? HA! I had to pay $800 for my mammogram. **** them!

Unfortunately, these are family members so I can't troll them like I really want to. But I'm sure my sister-in-law's HC will drop now that she's considered to have a pre-existing condition.
05-05-2017 , 07:51 PM
RV- The great question for the next 2 years will be to figure out how to get those people to blame the GOP for that.
05-05-2017 , 07:52 PM
EDIT: Getting the impression that this post might have been against the rules.

Last edited by AllTheCheese; 05-05-2017 at 08:00 PM.
05-05-2017 , 07:53 PM
Playing videogames is supposed to be some kind of dark secret?
05-05-2017 , 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
RV- The great question for the next 2 years will be to figure out how to get those people to blame the GOP for that.
nah. those ppl will never blame the gop. and tons of those ppl would still prefer gop even if they were aware that gop took their health care. hell, we have had plenty of interviews from trumpers who would be dead without ocare, but say they would still support trump.

but there should be enough ppl on the fence and enough ppl that didnt vote at all who will show up this time. if they arent dead ofc.
05-05-2017 , 07:57 PM
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/201...e-trump-putin/

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Philadelphia (CBS) – FCC Chairman Ajit Pai says the agency has received complaints following Stephen Colbert’s joke about Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin that has sparked calls for the “Late Show” host to be fired earlier this week, telling Rich Zeoli on Talk Radio 1210 WPHT, in his first interview since watching the video, that they are looking into it.
Oh my god we're all ****ed
05-05-2017 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Victor
dude. the guy repeatedly supported the pizzagate conspiracy.
This is of course a disgusting lie.
05-05-2017 , 08:03 PM
Looooooooool

So the Trump transition team copied classified documents relating to Sergei Kislayk from the Obama White House and took them away from secure locations.

https://apnews.com/amp/b109774705594ae887a86b337c444e6b

But sure, the leakers are the REAL STORY EVERYONE
05-05-2017 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
RV- The great question for the next 2 years will be to figure out how to get those people to blame the GOP for that.
It will never happen. My Sister-in-Law has a disabled son that had a stroke during birth. He's 27 now, paralyzed on one side, blind in one eye and that video of Trump making fun of the reporter meant nothing to her. She still voted for him.
05-05-2017 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by HastenDan
I am curious the thoughts of those that advocate for using massive resources and funding to support the life of a 90 year old terminal patient if it means those funds are not going towards supporting children with cancer?

I mean I am for an entire overhaul of the US healthcare industry and UHC, but when it comes to allocation of resources, his argument seems fairly clear and all anyone can say is WHY WOULD YOU LET SOMEONE DIE! without actually facing the realities of scarcity and allocation under our current system.
If that was the calculus you might have a point, but since it's easy to both provide services for the 90-year-old and the children with cancer it's kind of a moot point. Or it was before they gave rich people back the 3.9% needed to accomplish it.

Regardless, if a treatment can get anyone a clear five-year solution to a health problem then it should be done.
05-05-2017 , 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
This is an investigation into Colbert/CBS but it's meant to be a message to smaller outlets, journalists, writers, etc. It's a chilling message designed to terrify anyone who might criticize the President. Colbert/CBS can afford a huge fine, most people absolutely cannot.
05-05-2017 , 08:20 PM
ya, my dads gf works at a small town in special ed. she had been no thought republican her whole life but trump was so disgusting that she converted. every other person at her work went trump. these are ppl that work with special ed kids all day. so they voted against their livelihood, and against the ppl that they work with and educate and really actually protect.

its truly unbelievable.

my aunt had never been political in her whole life but she went full on trumpkin. reposting and liking all his stuff and all the anti hilary stuff on facebook. this is a women who was a single mother whos only kid was/is really terribly bipolar. and even at 40+ the daughter has awful episodes. just a few years ago she spent 2 weeks in the hospital after going absolutely nuts manic.

the kid has nearly bankrupted her as is, but the govt has paid millions over her life. my aunt has no education and worked minimum wage for a long time and then for the 2nd half of her life had a decent job making lower middle class money. certainly not nearly enough to pay for all of the hospital visits and counseling and then just straight up supporting her daughter.

the daugher has ofc benefited from low income housing and medicare and food banks and surely many other programs.

ya see, these ppl are just hopeless and irredeemable. no, I am not talking about the sick ones. I mean the trumpers.
05-05-2017 , 08:23 PM
I think the above two anecdotes is a clear testament to two things: 1) just how poorly the DNC and democratic party have been at messaging and supporting rational progressive causes that greatly benefit the whole of humanity, and 2) just how powerful the effects of corporate media mind control in dividing people, muddying the waters, and getting people to vote against their best interests.

      
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