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05-04-2017 , 09:17 AM

#29451

Loki

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Join Date: Nov 2015 Posts: 12,772

support for the GOP is nothing more than a religion. Trump and the GOP work in mysterious ways. Never a reason to stop supporting them, no matter how many times they rob you blind!

05-04-2017 , 09:19 AM

#29452

microbet

Solar Powered

Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 57,095

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shuffle

There comes a point where economic equality turns into economic stagnation (look at unproductive socialist economies crippled by debt)

I think this is probably correct, but two things:

1. Measures like GDP might not be the best way to show success.

2. China and the USSR had particular problems that weren't just about socialism. Have any socialist countries not been subject to sanctions or embargoes?

So, perhaps there isn't much empirical evidence regarding socialism, though there certainly is for mixed economies from Scandinavia on one side all the way to I guess Singapore on the other.

05-04-2017 , 09:32 AM

#29453

poconoder

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 370

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

How does someone vote for bill with no data on its effect? These people are the absolute worst of humanity. Avwal, shushy Dan and the other trumpkins are deplorable for thier support.

The exact same question asked when Obamacare was passed.

05-04-2017 , 09:41 AM

#29454

thethethe

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Good news about the new bill - cases of rape/sexual assaults/domestic violence should drop drastically!

They now come under “pre-existing conditions”, so no one will want to report them.

05-04-2017 , 09:42 AM

#29455

Our House

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poconoder

The exact same question asked when Obamacare was passed.

Trumpcare feels so much better after this comment.

05-04-2017 , 09:43 AM

#29456

Our House

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thethethe

Good news about the new bill - cases of rape/sexual assaults/domestic violence should drop drastically!

They now come under “pre-existing conditions”, so no one will want to report them.

And that's one of the better features of the bill.

05-04-2017 , 09:47 AM

#29457

Clovis8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poconoder

The exact same question asked when Obamacare was passed.

This is of course a lie but even if it wasn't so what? Two wrongs make a right now in this ****ing post fact world?

God I hate all you so much.

05-04-2017 , 09:47 AM

#29458

5ive

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Shuffle

So why the 'magic negro' talk? You interjected race into the conversation (if you can call it that) for no reason. There have been times when Obama has been criticized or people have piled on because he's black, sure, but he's also capable of being judged as a man, same as anyone else. Jules was rambling but didn't say anything racist, so you bringing out phrases like 'magic negroes' quite frankly looks like you are just using race baiting as a defense for indefensible positions.

On balance I'm an economic progressive and believe in progressive tax policy but if you think that economic flows should be one way then you are mistaken. There comes a point where economic equality turns into economic stagnation (look at unproductive socialist economies crippled by debt) but your attack seemed clueless, because I never said or implied that we are anywhere close to that here in the U.S. On the contrary, we need a hell of a lot more economic liberalism (not neoliberalism) these days.

Hol up.

I was about to make an honest reply to this but then I realized you unironically used the term 'race baiting'.

Yeah dog. Ok.

05-04-2017 , 09:47 AM

#29459

iron81

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poconoder

The exact same question asked when Obamacare was passed.

The people who asked this question are morons, the Dems waited for CBO scoring.

05-04-2017 , 09:48 AM

#29460

fuluck414

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 3,281

Quote:

Originally Posted by Our House

400k is nothing. That's just 2 Mar-a-Lago memberships (at the new "presidential" rate).

I was listening to a podcast yesterday (either fake the nation or one of the pod saves) and they were pointing out that back in '13-'14 Trump was getting paid over a million bucks for speaking engagements.

I'm assuming they were lessons for translators to decipher giberish.

05-04-2017 , 09:53 AM

#29461

fuluck414

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RV Life

**** Comey. You don't get to whine about having a tough choice between conceal and speak when you decided to conceal Trump but speak Clinton.

Didn't Obama tell him not to?

05-04-2017 , 09:58 AM

#29462

Our House

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I'm willing to bet Trump is poised to make over $100,000,000 extra this year using the office of the presidency. My estimate may even be low.

05-04-2017 , 10:09 AM

#29463

watevs

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Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,170

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5ive

Magical Negro not magical enough, news at 11 with our #1 anchor, Some Random Idiot Pothead.

this is a terrible post

05-04-2017 , 10:15 AM

#29464

Clovis8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poconoder

They weren't even allowed to read the Obamacare bill before having to vote on it.

Can we please ban this moron. Do we get to just make things up now itt?

05-04-2017 , 10:17 AM

#29465

fuluck414

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poconoder

They weren't even allowed to read the Obamacare bill before having to vote on it.

Wanna know how I know you take Fox news as gospel?

05-04-2017 , 10:19 AM

#29466

CalledDownLight

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Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

This is rather incredible:

https://twitter.com/FiveThirtyEight/...89408346877952

what a time to be alive

white people more discriminated against than gays, immigrants, and black people huh? christians more discriminated against than trans people and muslims and, well, everyone else apparently.

05-04-2017 , 10:24 AM

#29467

Huehuecoyotl

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CalledDownLight

I mean it sums up the identities of the two political parties. The special dip for Republicans thinking blacks are the least discriminated against in America is a nice *Italian kissing fingers gesture*

05-04-2017 , 10:37 AM

#29468

dinopoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by thethethe

Christians being the most discriminated/marginalized group in the US.

Well it is probably true that if Jesus were alive today and lived in the US Trump would likely try and have him deported.

05-04-2017 , 10:39 AM

#29469

bobman0330

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

People still actually believe this ****?

Why do you disagree?

05-04-2017 , 10:42 AM

#29470

dinopoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poconoder

They weren't even allowed to read the Obamacare bill before having to vote on it.

Yeah this is about as wrong as possible.

05-04-2017 , 10:44 AM

#29471

watevs

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when do they vote? i kinda feel like going down there anyone have any good sign ideas

i was thinking of something like small text big text '(these aren't) PREEXISTING CONDITIONS (this is) LIFE'

and then make a big list of all the dumb **** that is now a 'preexisting' condition

also thinking of something like

'i'm healthy'
'dont mind paying for the sick'
'could be me next'

having trouble with brevity

Last edited by watevs; 05-04-2017 at 10:54 AM.