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05-03-2017 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jules22
Listen I get it it's a simple narrative for simple folks trump bad Obama good the worlds not really that binary but it's easier to get all ginned up about it and act like we went over a cliff as soon as Obama left, but to me Obama is a scum just like Hilary is a scum just like trump is a scum.... until we change our politicians won't be able to change much about our policies especially if we only get ginned up when a republican gets in and then suddenly become dormant once we get some republican light
Incredible. You're right, simple folks need to club to simple narratives, Obama=Hillary=Trump. Lol.
05-03-2017 , 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jules22
Obama basically installed the apparatus of executive power that the trump admin is abusing now. What a brace and righteous man of the people. I wish he was our president for life with no dissent allowed
This guy totally mocked Obama derangement syndrome, guys. See you tomorrow.
05-03-2017 , 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jules22
I have paid a lot of federal income taxes, just like a lot of you, and I feel like I have gotten basically nothing back. Interstate highways I guess before someone asks what about the roadzzzzzzz
you've gotten a lot less than you should have, but you've also gotten a whole lot imo
05-03-2017 , 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by kerowo
You give pot smokers a bad name dude. Get educated.
+1
05-03-2017 , 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Jules22
Obama basically installed the apparatus of executive power that the trump admin is abusing now. What a brace and righteous man of the people. I wish he was our president for life with no dissent allowed
Please flesh out that "basically."
05-03-2017 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
OK so now that you've answered that incredibly easy and obvious question with 3 distinct qualifiers, you understand why people are mean to you, right?

Because of how you're defending Trump. Because you're more invested in bleating (and, incredibly, factually incorrect) self-righteousness than opposition to fascism.


Like, someone so attuned to the rights and concerns of "browns" wouldn't need ANY qualifiers when one of the choices is a guy who put like THREE different dudes with serious white supremacist ties in his administration, but you're insincere, and we see through you.
and obviously this. fly 100% on the money yet again
05-03-2017 , 09:40 PM
Kinda amusing that people are still saying Trump and HRC would be equally hawkish when Trump has already bombed one foreign nation (over dessert) and seems 50/50 at this point to go to actual war with another, and that's to say nothing of the dozens of trade wars he's already kicked off.

At this point I'd rather have Kim Jong Un as POTUS than this moron, never mind Hillary.
05-03-2017 , 09:42 PM
Kim Jong Un also makes up better lies about his golf game.
05-03-2017 , 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
And they said nobody was still crying about Hillary.

There are a few of us who don't have the stain of voting for either corporate warmonger on our record.
You don't understand how the election works.
05-03-2017 , 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jules22
It was almost 100% their differences on reforming the private prison -justice system monstrosity and ending our overseas conflicts Bernie talked about this extensively in his speeches and I really was transfixed by it. The iniquities in sentencing by race, ending the death penalty and ending drug prohibition are issues I'm extremely passionate about. All Hilary Clinton did was yell about guns and republicans but she wouldn't do anything about those issues just like Obama didn't . The only reform to the drug laws has been at the state level
as somebody who was a licensed medical marijuana grower with a 50 plant garden in colorado that the local authorities visited, inspected, and approved of, this is laughably false. the reason states were able to pass rec laws and expand medical programs was a direct result of obama and holder directing federal agencies not to go after/prosecute individuals and businesses who were complying with state laws, and they made good on that promise- i didn't hear about a single business owner or grower in colorado who was shut down without an indictment for breaking state laws. now that donald trump is president and jeff sessions controls the DOJ, that's all about to change. so good ****ing job voting for gary johnson

you dont have a ****ing clue what you're talking about
05-03-2017 , 09:52 PM
heh responding in real time
05-03-2017 , 09:55 PM
AHCA vote tomorrow would be a significant self-inflicted wound for GOP in 2018. It's crazy how far they are willing to go to placate Trump. People are going to lose their seats because of this vote and Trump's an idiot either way - I don't get it?
05-03-2017 , 09:58 PM
Time for ignore. Bye Felicia
05-03-2017 , 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul McSwizzle
AHCA vote tomorrow would be a significant self-inflicted wound for GOP in 2018. It's crazy how far they are willing to go to placate Trump. People are going to lose their seats because of this vote and Trump's an idiot either way - I don't get it?
Never underestimate a) the low low info level of Trump voters, b) the power of conservative media to confuse and distract, c) the distracting ability of the war or terrorist crisis we're sure to be in by 2018.
05-03-2017 , 09:59 PM
My own mother said some pretty disturbing things to me a little while ago.

"At least Trump isn't selling our country out to the Muslims like Obama did."

"Trump really thought he could help all Americans, but nobody's allowing him to do anything because of all the hate."

And the best one when we were arguing about the AHCA2 that also hurts her:

"If I were Trump, I'd be frustrated so much by the way people were treating me that I would say screw it and pass a bad bill like that too, just to throw it in everybody's face. They need to learn to respect the office of the President."

I'm sick.
05-03-2017 , 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Shuffle
I think so. You voted for the venal, out of touch corporate warmonger who lost, so you're crying about it. Some other people voted for the corrupt, fascist racist who won, and they are going to struggle with Daddy issues in the next few years as he ****s them over and takes their money.
Umm I voted for Justin Trudeau.
05-03-2017 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Umm I voted for Justin Trudeau.
"And look how he's been ****ing us over with dairy and lumber."
05-03-2017 , 10:06 PM
yes, trump's the one being treated unfairly. That's the real discrimination here.
05-03-2017 , 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Umm I voted for Justin Trudeau.
I'm sure Shuffle can come up with a bevy of youtube vids which get into explicit but very secretive details of Trudeau's devious behavior.
05-03-2017 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by suzzer99
Never underestimate a) the low low info level of Trump voters, b) the power of conservative media to confuse and distract, c) the distracting ability of the war or terrorist crisis we're sure to be in by 2018.
The dead can't vote and most that care about this didn't vote him anyway or, even stated they'd still vote for him anyway even after this. They're gone.

Saying it's gonna kill all but a few moderates is premature. A year and a half from now is gonna feel like 5. People are gonna forget/get overwhelmed. Also many will vote positively for them BECAUSE of the bill if their premiums go down.
05-03-2017 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
yes, trump's the one being treated unfairly. That's the real discrimination here.
I tried my best to explain to her how he starts every single issue, mostly with tweets.

"That's why I don't use Twitter. And neither should he."

See? Now it's Twitter's fault. Never Trump's yuge mouth.
05-03-2017 , 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by WichitaDM
Hillary still trying to be relevant when she is a big reason we are in this fked up situation is unbelievably cringeworthy. As others have said go away you are a big part of the problem. You lost to a clueless moron who had no semblance of a ground game and you are literally the poster child for what is wrong with the Dems. And please for the love of god don't force Chelsea down our throats the next 20 years straight like they are gearing up to do.
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Originally Posted by +rep_lol
been almost 6 months now and midwestern olds still cant stop frothing about hillary on the internet
Ol' Wichita coming in the window to reiterate for the 3742nd time why he hates stupid Hillary and her stupid vagina.
05-03-2017 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
Umm I voted for Justin Trudeau.
Can you guys invade Vermont please? I'm sure Trump would let us go.
05-03-2017 , 10:45 PM
Jules2 is a card carrying member of the single most irritating political group in the United States -- that is, the group that justifies its idiotic voting behavior by claiming that both parties/candidates are basically the same, or at least the same on the issues that matter.

I'd rather have a political discussion with a ****ing white supremacist.
05-03-2017 , 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by eyebooger
Can you guys invade Vermont please? I'm sure Trump would let us go.
absolutely! hands up. who else wants in?

      
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