I'm not calling you a Trump supporter.

Once again, the topic is "How taxes benefit society in a positive manner". You look at that and go, "Brown people are dying. Therefore, let not pay taxes." We are pointing out how stupid that logic is. Your response is to put your fingers in your ears and say "Lalalala I can't hear you." You can see how frustrating this is.

Leave and come back when you're not baked.

Your characterization of us is inaccurate and offensive. The posters in good standing in P have nuanced views that cannot be covered with one blanket statement, let alone one as ignorant as that.

Jules would America be

A) Better

or

B) Worse

if Clinton had won?

"It turns out the Middle East is complicated".

You give pot smokers a bad name dude. Get educated.

In the short term, probably a little better.

But I feel like the D party "leaders", and I shouldn't project my feelings on D politicians onto D voters who are by and large good people, did little to stop our warmongering ways while they had the chance and instead fattened themselves at the troughs while stopping actual leaders, like senator sanders, from affecting actual change.

So it's not that I like trump or am happy he won, but I want to make the best of this terrible president to make people realize that they can't just keeping doing business with crooks like DWS or any of the million lobbyists etc that make their money off business as usual with D party. It would be very easy to trade the anger and the dissatisfaction at trump to 8 more years of looting from the Obama Clinton Wall Street Democratic Party

No, I'm against the dead Browns

But I can be against dead Browns and still recognize that tax dollars do good things also

Neither candidate was going to be good for foreign Browns but one candidate was and is much much worse than the other

It is kind of epicly hilarious that all of a sudden the term "liberal" is something everybody wants to fall under (after it being quite toxic for the last few decades) and the Democratic Party has absolutely no idea what to do with that information, if they even know that it's happening.

Twitter says that the GOP has the votes now on the AHCA lol we're ****ed

I tend to agree with you and that's why I think we have a lot of housecleaning to do in the Democratic Party. We have to get rid of the corporatists and get genuine leaders who believe in true, bold solutions.

That's the thing for me tho is for you dead browns are "an issue" to me they are about the only issue because it's the one thing both sides agree on, which means it's a goddamn atrocity just like when we passed the drug abuse and prevention act in 1986 almost unanimously and it was a goddamn atrocity

Holy thread explosion. I did not want to read that much in such a short time.

Wow. This is bad if true.

Quite a disincentive for me to return.

OK so now that you've answered that incredibly easy and obvious question with 3 distinct qualifiers, you understand why people are mean to you, right?

Because of how you're defending Trump. Because you're more invested in bleating (and, incredibly, factually incorrect) self-righteousness than opposition to fascism.


Like, someone so attuned to the rights and concerns of "browns" wouldn't need ANY qualifiers when one of the choices is a guy who put like THREE different dudes with serious white supremacist ties in his administration, but you're insincere, and we see through you.

The EPA does a ton for you.

Jules all you care about is legal weed and keeping your taxes low and you can't even ****ing get that right, Hillary wouldn't have nominated Jeff ****ing Sessions.

You are the enemy, stop acting surprised that people oppose you.

Twitter also saying a lot about the GOP willing to trade human lives for tax dollars.

Ya I'm treating this like a chat room cuz I'm bored and baked lol 😂 We way OT now also

Here are my main problems with Gary Johnson/libertarians:

-They're against federal student aid, let alone universal college.
-They're against raising the minimum wage and against ACA (they would support something like AHCA unfortunately)
-They have no problem with money flowing into politics completely unchecked ala Citizens United
-They often don't believe in labor laws and protections, also regulations and protections put into place to protect consumers

There are more but those are the big bold points, the most important things. It comes back to that old argument about can you be a liberal if you're just socially liberal. My answer is no.

Okay dude I get it I'm trump supporter A1 and the enemy... at this point it would be more engaging to argue with a twitter bot and I would probably have a better chance of swaying its POV. I'll give you credit you are relentless and probably don't read more than 5 or 6 words of my posts before launching into insane diatribes about how I support Jeff sessions - who I would probably spit in his face if I met him irl lol

Ok, now we know you're faking.

Sounds like Trump Derangement Syndrome there, Hillarybot!

That's fair, I never claimed to be a liberal but I will definitely claim to be a radical social liberal, which is why it's funny to me to watch Fly the ultra liberal call me an anchor baby

??? Is it not possible for your brain to comprehend someone may not like Hilary Clinton OR Jeff sessions? Like how hyper partisan can you people be?

Interesting. Could you list the things that Bernie wanted to spend money on that you agreed with vs the list of things Hillary wanted to that you didn't?

You'd think I would have learned to give people with opposing viewpoints the benefit of the doubt if they do not have an established reputation on P by now. Ugh.

Jules might be more annoying than people like VMF and BS because he appears to be a guy who has the brainpower to be smart but he seems to have used that brainpower to rationalize dumb positions instead.