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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

01-29-2017 , 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Double Eagle
This is the real America! **** Trump.
01-29-2017 , 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by simplicitus
This big data stuff is 90% sizzle and no steak. Cambridge Analytics will not come into play, other than perhaps as grift.
This.
01-29-2017 , 11:09 PM
So what grade are we giving Trump so far? A? A+? A++?
01-29-2017 , 11:15 PM
I've been working on a project to summarize Trump's first 100 days, but there's just so much of it that I'll have to post it in 10-day blocks. I tried to be as crisp as possible here, as again, there's a lot to work with. If I missed anything substantial, let me know. Also, if you like this, let me know and I'll post days 11-20 when the time comes.

Day 1:
Reads 16-minute inauguration speech he falsely claims to have written himself.
In that speech, inadvertently quotes movie villain Bane from Batman.
Announces the Alt-Right's theme of America First as policy and philosophy.
Cites American 'carnage', without going into detail as to what that might entail.
Falsely claims it stopped raining when he began to speak.
Passes over long-time inauguration parade announcer Charlie Brotman, replacing him with no one.
Six journalists are arrested while covering the inauguration and charged with felony rioting.
Trump signs emergency order increasing mortgage costs for first time home buyers.

Day 2:
Climate change data on White House website scrubbed.
Trump calls National Park Service Director Michael T. Reynolds and orders him to produce photos showing a more crowded inauguration.
He lies to the press about the size of the crowds at his inauguration, then complains when the press calls him on that lie.
Gives speech at CIA headquarters. Brings along a claque of staffers unrelated to the CIA to cheer and clap at his words.
Later claims he received the "greatest standing ovation since Peyton Manning won the Super Bowl."
Protocol calls for government employees to remain standing until the president asks them to sit
Outgoing CIA director, John Brennan, calls the CIA speech "a despicable display of self-aggrandizement."
Claims to hold the all-time record of Time magazine covers at "14 or 15." He has been on 11 covers.
Richard Nixon holds the actual record with 55 Time covers. Hillary Clinton has 22 covers.

Day 3:
Spokesperson Conway announces Trump won't be releasing his tax returns regardless of the state of his IRS Audit.
She claims that the people don't care about Trump's taxes.
Conway also introduces the concept of lies as "alternative facts."

Day 4:
Spanish language option on White House website scrubbed.
Conway reverses herself and says that Trump will release his taxes once his IRS audit is complete.
After lying about inauguration crowd sizes on Day 1, Press Secretary Spicer says "...our intention is never to lie to you."
Spicer claims hiring freeze will halt "dramatic increase" in government employment.
Number of federal employees at the beginning of Obama's terms, 2.77 million; towards the end, 2.66 million.
Spicer declines to give the current unemployment rate when asked by a reporter.
Trump bans aid to international health organizations, including the World Heath Organization, if they mention abortion.
Claims he will cut all regulations on businesses by 75%, that the remaining 25% will be just as strong about protecting the people as before the cut.
Claims to have “received many awards on the environment.”
The only award that can be verified is a Trump golf course that received one in 2007.
In 2011 the New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection cited the same golf course for several environmental violations.
At a meeting with lawmakers, Trump repeats the false claim that between 3 and 5 million illegal voters made him lose the popular vote.
The initial evidence he cites is the anecdote of a 59-year-old golf pro and German citizen, Bernhard Langer, who Trump claims saw a lot of Latin faces in a polling line in Florida.
Reporters reached the golf pro's daughter on Langer's cell phone. She said "He is not a friend of President Trump's, and I don't know why he would talk about him."
An attempt to sue Trump under the Constitution's Emoluments Clause begins.

Day 5:
Retroactively declares his inauguration day, January 20, 2017, the National Day of Patriotic Devotion.
Revives the Keystone XL and Dakota Access crude oil pipelines.
The Badlands National Park Twitter account goes rogue and begins to tweet global warming stats and other scientific facts. It is shut down.
A few other National Park accounts begin to follow suit out of solidarity.
White house imposes a freeze on grants and contracts from the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, prohibits employees from speaking to the press or on social media.
Slaps a similar gag order on US Department of Agriculture scientists.
Press Secretary Spicer says Trump's 306 electoral votes were the most won by a GOP president since Reagan.
But after Reagan, George HW Bush won with 426 electoral votes.
Spicer calls prospective Attorney General Sessions record on voting and civil rights "exemplary." Says Sessions "has fought very hard for voting rights, civil rights and on areas of minority rights."
Sessions was considered to be too racist for a federal judgeship in the 1980's. As a US Attorney, Sessions prosecuted 3 black activists for hand delivering, rather than mailing a small number of absentee ballots.
Sessions also called a fellow US Attorney "Boy."
Spicer repeats Trump's lie regarding 3-5 million illegal votes during the election, citing non-existent "studies and evidence."
A member of the House and a Senator introduce a bill that would prevent the president from launching a nuclear first strike without a congressional declaration of war.
A short time after a Bill O'Reilly episode touching on Chicago gun violence airs on Fox, Trump threatens to send federal troops into Chicago.
Chicago's murder rate in 2016 failed to put it in the top 10 US cities.

Day 6:
Expands media and social media gag orders to include US Departments of Commerce, the Interior, Transportation and Health and Human services.
Trump issues Draft Order designed to reopen CIA.-run “black site” prisons.
These secret overseas prisons detained and tortured terrorism suspects for years, before being shut down by President Obama.
Trump claims that intelligence officials have told him that torture "absolutely" works.
George Orwell's classic book 1984 hits #6 on Amazon's bestseller list.
Trump tweets that he will be asking for a "major investigation into VOTER FRAUD."
When confronted on ABC with the fact that the Pew reporter he was citing regarding voter fraud said there was in fact no voter fraud, Trump claimed the Pew reporter was "groveling."
Claims that two people were shot in Chicago during Obama's farewell speech. Police reported no shootings in Chicago on that day.
In the same interview, says "We ended up winning by a massive amount, 306." In terms of electoral votes, Trump's win ranks 46th out of 58 elections.
Says "They say I had the biggest crowd in the history of inaugural speeches." Estimates for crowds at Trump's speech are 80% below those of Barack Obama's in 2009.
Says "We have spent as of one month ago 6 trillion dollars in the Middle East." From 2001 to 2014 the wars in Iraq and in Afghanistan--the latter country is in South Asia--cost an estimated $1.6 trillion.
Says "You had millions of people that now aren't insured anymore." Some 20 million people have gained health care coverage because of the Affordable Care Act.
He signs directive to build border wall with Mexico, reiterates that Mexico will pay for it.
The deepest channel of the Rio Grande river serves as the US-Mexico border for 1255 miles, longer than the distance from New York City to Orlando, FL.
The river is known to change its course rather frequently.
Signs another directive increasing detention centers and Border Patrol staff.
Signs another directive that threatens to cut off federal funds to cities that don't actively and vigorously pursue illegal aliens.
Another order cuts U.S. funding to the International Criminal Court by 40 percent. The U.S. currently gives zero funding to the International Criminal Court.
Trump's Mar-a-Lago country club doubles membership fees.
His hotel business reveals plans for a major US expansion.

Day 7
14 minutes after Fox News calls Chelsea Manning an ungrateful traitor who called Obama a weak leader, Trump tweets that Chelsea Manning is an ungrateful traitor who called Obama a weak leader.
Entire US State Department senior management team resigns. All were career foreign service officers who served under both Republican and Democratic administrations.
Infowars, who reported that the murdered Sandy Hook 1st graders were paid actors hired by the anti-gun lobby, and that the Air Force is purposefully creating deadly tornadoes in the Midwest, is granted White House Press credentials.
Trump tweets that Mexico should cancel the upcoming summit with the US if they don't want to pay for the wall.
Enrique Pena Nieto, president of Mexico, our close ally, cancels his planned trip to Washington.
Trump proposes a 20% tax on goods coming from Mexico. Sellers will increase their prices by 20%, which will be paid for by the US consumer.
In Philadelphia Trump says that “the murder rate has been steadily -- I mean, just terribly increasing.”
Data provided by the Philadelphia Police Department shows a record downturn in violent crimes, with fewer occurring in 2016 than in every other year since 1979.
Trump orders his new administration to publish a weekly list of crimes committed by immigrants.
The idea is not new. The German newspaper Der Stürmer had a feature known as the "Letter Box", which encouraged the reporting of Jewish illegal acts in the 1930's and 40's.
“The media should be embarrassed and humiliated and keep its mouth shut and just listen for awhile,” -Steve Bannon, Donald Trump's closest adviser.
In an interview with Sean Hannity, Trump says that he doesn't consider waterboarding to be torture.
In April of 2009, Hannity agreed to be waterboarded for charity, but has yet to follow through on the offer.
Trump draft proposal will ban immigration and to the US from Muslim majority countries Syria, Iraq, Iran, Libya, Sudan, Yemen and Somalia.
Muslim majority countries Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Azerbaijan and the U.A.E. will not be on the banned list. These five countries are where Trump has business interests.

Day 8
Trump signs ban on Muslims from the 7 countries from traveling into the US.
Announces that persecuted Christians will be given priority over Muslim refugees.
A screenshot is revived of Mike Pence's deleted December 2015 tweet stating “Calls to ban Muslims from entering the U.S. are offensive and unconstitutional."
Dick Cheney says Muslim ban "goes against everything we stand for and believe in."
By a margin of 42% to 39%, Trump voters believe that it would be okay for him to use his private email server for official business.
George Orwell's 1984 hits #1 on Amazon's bestseller list.
Trump tweets that he has another source for his oft-debunked claim of millions of illegal votes - Gregg Phillips, who has made claims that the Department of Homeland Security hacked the 2016 US election at Obama's request, and that Israel was the culprit for the DNC hacks.
Three paragraph White House statement on Holocaust Remembrance Day makes no mention of the 6 million Jews killed in the Holocaust.
White Supremacist publication the Daily Stormer praises Trump on this statement for daring to reject "Jewish science fiction" about the Holocaust.

Day 9
Donald Trump calls Vladimir Putin from the White House.
Steve Bannon, former publisher of radical right wing website Breitbart, is granted a regular seat at National Security Council meetings.
Sample Breitbart headlines include Data: Young Muslims in the West Are a Ticking Time Bomb, and Birth Control Makes Women Unattractive and Crazy.
In 2013, Bannon told a writer for the Daily Beast, “I’m a Leninist. Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal, too. I want to bring everything crashing down."
The Director of National Intelligence and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff will no longer have regular seats on the NSC.
Some legal permanent US residents are being stopped from reentering as they return from visits or studies abroad.
The Muslim ban will also keep Oscar-nominated director Asghar Farhadi from attending the Oscars.
Referencing an article on how the ban will include green card residents, former KKK Grand Wizard and current racist icon David Duke tweets, "Greatest. Year. Ever."
Protesters flood JFK International Terminal in New York, demanding that detainees there be allowed to go free.
More protesters assemble at airports in Denver, Chicago, Dallas, San Francisco, Seattle, LA, and Washington DC.
Dozens of lawyers show up at various airports to work pro bono to free detainees there.
New York judge issues a temporary injunction halting deportations nationwide from Trump's ban.
Similar rulings follow in Virginia, Massachusetts and Washington State.

Day 10
The US Department of Homeland Security says it will comply with judicial orders not to deport detained travelers affected by Trump's ban.
The DHS reverses itself and announces it will defy the court orders, potentially provoking a constitutional crisis.
According to White House sources, Top Trump policy director Stephen Miller tells government employees that the public is behind Trump's ban, and to ignore the hysterical voices on TV.
While at Duke, Stephen Miller worked closely with White Nationalist Richard Spencer--the man who was recently punched in the face on air while explaining the Alt-Right, provoking debate amongst the Left as to whether or not it's okay to punch a Nazi.
As chaos and protests continue at airports in the US and around the world, Trump tells reporters "It's not a Muslim ban. We were totally prepared. It's working out very nicely. You see it at the airports, you see it all over. It's working out very nicely."
Trump issues a statement saying, “To be clear, this is not a Muslim ban, as the media is falsely reporting,”
Earlier in the day, Rudy Giuliani, adviser to Trump, told a reporter, "I’ll tell you the whole history of it. When he first announced it, he said ‘Muslim ban.' He called me up, he said ‘put a commission together, show me the right way to do it, legally.’ ”
A petition calling for Trump to be prevented from making a state visit to the United Kingdom picks up over 600,000 signatures, Once a petition passes the 500,000 threshold, the matter must then be debated in the UK Parliament.
01-29-2017 , 11:15 PM
On a scale of 1-10 with a 5 being exactly as bad as you expected and a 10 being way worse than you expected, the Trump presidency thus far is a _____.

Think I've settled on a 7-7.5, which is terrifying considered I expected things to be REALLY bad. The speed of which it is happening is alarming. This ends with him and Bannon out of The White House or the end of democracy as we know it and nothing ever in between I'm afraid.
01-29-2017 , 11:18 PM
Grading Trump's presidency: It has Atheists praying to a higher power.
01-29-2017 , 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by suitedjustice
I've been working on a project to summarize Trump's first 100 days, but there's just so much of it that I'll have to post it in 10-day blocks. I tried to be as crisp as possible here, as again, there's a lot to work with. If I missed anything substantial, let me know. Also, if you like this, let me know and I'll post days 11-20 when the time comes.
I'd definitely love at least a pm of future additions if not enough people here are interested.
01-29-2017 , 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by .isolated
I'd definitely love at least a pm of future additions if not enough people here are interested.
I tried doing similar but not that good. Please keep this up!!!!
01-29-2017 , 11:28 PM
With all of the recent news (dozens of articles, hundreds of posts I've read, etc.), I was already sufficiently shook, but this just added a new layer for me:

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/...ews-technology

The thought of being individually completely unable to distinguish fact from fiction (soon) is unsettling. The lines have already become blurred enough for a percentage of normally rational people (minority of Trumpists) to cry 'fake news' at anything they don't want to believe. It seems we are headed down a path where you will choose what to believe, based off of what you want to believe.

I shouldn't be surprised this technology is already out there, but it was my first time seeing it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohmajJTcpNk
01-29-2017 , 11:28 PM
5 dead in mosque shooting in Quebec city. Jesus Christ it has begun
01-29-2017 , 11:30 PM
Interesting twitter thread from a soldier who served in Iraq explaining why the ban is terrible. Would love to hear reactions from people who support it:

https://twitter.com/kirkwjohnson/sta...30075278823424
01-29-2017 , 11:41 PM
ugh in my province too what the ****
01-29-2017 , 11:45 PM
dunno if old but Judicial Branch not listed as a gov agency on whitehouse.gov

About damn time too, they were always getting in the way of our god given christian rights.
01-29-2017 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Figured it had to be fake, but wow.

Sort of reads like a joke?
01-29-2017 , 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tomrh3
With all of the recent news (dozens of articles, hundreds of posts I've read, etc.), I was already sufficiently shook, but this just added a new layer for me:

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/...ews-technology

The thought of being individually completely unable to distinguish fact from fiction (soon) is unsettling. The lines have already become blurred enough for a percentage of normally rational people (minority of Trumpists) to cry 'fake news' at anything they don't want to believe. It seems we are headed down a path where you will choose what to believe, based off of what you want to believe.

I shouldn't be surprised this technology is already out there, but it was my first time seeing it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohmajJTcpNk

Saw this a day or two ago (seems like a month right now) and had about the same reaction. Haven't taken the time to think deeply about it yet, but instead just threw it onto the mental pile of possible future horrors to deal with later.
01-30-2017 , 12:10 AM
Go to Whitehouse.gov, click on the 1600 Penn tab, and see if anything is missing from the dropdown menu...

Last edited by Dominic; 01-30-2017 at 12:12 AM. Reason: it can't be a mistake, right?
01-30-2017 , 12:14 AM
lol
01-30-2017 , 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Go to Whitehouse.gov, click on the 1600 Penn tab, and see if anything is missing from the dropdown menu...
What a petty cock.

Here is the Obama archive...

https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov...udicial-branch
01-30-2017 , 12:21 AM
its been gone since the 21st
01-30-2017 , 12:21 AM
That's about as subtle as chicken that's been boiled for 15 minutes.
01-30-2017 , 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic
Go to Whitehouse.gov, click on the 1600 Penn tab, and see if anything is missing from the dropdown menu...
I don't see it. Help?
01-30-2017 , 12:22 AM
For this nonsense talking point about Obama halting Iraqi immigration for six months, it turns out that this never happened.

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The only news report that we could find that referred to a six-month ban was a 2013 ABC News article that included this line: “As a result of the Kentucky case, the State Department stopped processing Iraq refugees for six months in 2011, federal officials told ABC News – even for many who had heroically helped U.S. forces as interpreters and intelligence assets.”

The “Kentucky case” refers to two Iraqis in Kentucky who in May, 2011 were arrested and faced federal terrorism charges after officials discovered from an informant that Waad Ramadan Alwan, before he had been granted asylum in the United States, had constructed improvised roadside bombs in Iraq. The FBI, after examining fragments from thousands of bomb parts, found Alwan’s fingerprints on a cordless phone that had been wired to detonate an improvised bomb in 2005.

The arrests caused an uproar in Congress and the Obama administration pledged to re-examine the records of 58,000 Iraqis who had been settled in the United States. The administration also imposed new, more extensive background checks on Iraqi refugees. Media reports at the time focused on how the new screening procedures had delayed visa approvals, even as the United States was preparing to end its involvement in the Iraq war.
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State Department records show there was a significant drop in refugee arrivals from Iraq in 2011. There were 18,251 in 2010, 6,339 in 2011 and 16,369 in 2012. But it’s unclear that equates to an actual six-month pause in visa processing, rather than a dramatic slowdown in approvals as new rules were put in place. One news report said “pace of visa approvals having slowed to a crawl,” indicating some were still being approved.

The Pinocchio Test
So what’s the difference with Trump’s action?

First, Obama responded to an actual threat—the discovery that two Iraqi refugees had been implicated in bomb-making in Iraq that had targeted U.S. troops. (Iraq, after all, had been a war zone.) Under congressional pressure, officials decided to reexamine all previous refugees and also impose new screening procedures, which led to a slowdown in processing new applications. Trump, by contrast, issued his executive order without any known triggering threat. (His staff has pointed to attacks unrelated to the countries name din his order.)

Second, Obama did not announce there was a ban on visa applications. In fact, as seen in Napolitano’s answer to Collins, administration officials danced around that question. There was certainly a lot of news reporting that visa applications had been slowed to a trickle. But the Obama administration never said it was their policy to halt all applications. Even so, the delays did not go unnoticed, so there was a lot of critical news reporting at the time about the angst of Iraqis waiting for approval.

Third, Obama’s policy did not prevent all citizens of that country, including green-card holders, from traveling to the United States. Trump’s policy is much more sweeping, though officials have appeared to pull back from barring permanent U.S. residents.
So yeah, the Trump EO is nothing like what happened under Obama in 2011.
01-30-2017 , 12:22 AM
So what actually happens if the Executive Branch just chooses to ignore the Judicial Branch? I mean, what can the Judicial Branch do about it?
01-30-2017 , 12:23 AM
I'm not sure but I think we're about to find out.
01-30-2017 , 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
I don't see it. Help?
The judicial branch is no longer a thing.

      
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