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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

04-27-2017 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by th14

https://twitter.com/OrinKerr/status/857406445599559681
How would that even be possible? You'd have to know every law on the books, something no single human knows, and have a perfect memory of where and when you broke those laws.

Edit: Oh it turns out the government is saying that any lie, at any time, no matter how insignificant, is enough to de-naturalize a person.

Last edited by Huehuecoyotl; 04-27-2017 at 03:38 PM.
04-27-2017 , 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
How would that even be possible? You'd have to know every law on the books, something no single human knows, and have a perfect memory of where and when you broke those laws.

Edit: Oh it turns out the government is saying that any lie, at any time, no matter how insignificant, is enough to de-naturalize a person.
Ignorance is no excuse...
04-27-2017 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
No. Stop. He is the dumbest person to ever hold public office of any kind. Period. He is too stupid for Tic Tac Toe, let along chess. Let's stop debating this. He knows nothing about politics or policy. Nothing. I don't me nothing in a figurative sense either. I mean it literally. Nothing.
If that's true how did he create a successful tv show and win a nomination along with the electoral college?
04-27-2017 , 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
If that's true how did he create a successful tv show and win a nomination along with the electoral college?
Not enough lols on earth for this post.
04-27-2017 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Clovis8
No. Stop. He is the dumbest person to ever hold public office of any kind. Period. He is too stupid for Tic Tac Toe, let along chess. Let's stop debating this. He knows nothing about politics or policy. Nothing. I don't me nothing in a figurative sense either. I mean it literally. Nothing.
Yeah this debate has been going on since the primaries. The guy is an absolute moron and anyone who thinks otherwise is not paying attention.

There are also, evidently, a large number of morons in the US as a whole, seeing as how he won the election.
04-27-2017 , 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
If that's true how did he create a successful tv show and win a nomination along with the electoral college?
idk ask mark burnett and vladimir putin
04-27-2017 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by spidercrab
There is absolutely no way that the one-page "plan" passes even the House. Just picking on one item in particular - there is no chance that House Republicans will pass a plan that removes the deductibility of state and local income taxes.

There has been too much noise historically (from the Republican side) about the heinous crime of double taxation in the corporate context - "How can you tax dividends when that income has already been taxed at the corporate level?". Same thing is true if you remove state and local income tax deductibility - you get taxed on the same dollar of income at multiple levels, without any credits/deductions for the taxes paid at other levels.

There's not even a point discussing this one-page outline, because nothing like it will ever pass the House. Let alone the Senate.
What? I thought this is a management summary? Is there not one person in the WH that knows you need a horde of lawyers writting law for a tax reform?
04-27-2017 , 04:15 PM
The 4D chess theories stem from his base's unwavering loyalty. As I've said before though, dumb bigoted people love seeing their dumb bigotry writ large. That's why they cling tighter the more absurdly he acts.

Another, more charitable view is that a bunch of his voters come from patriarchal family and community structures. They are taught essentially from birth that the angry old white guy yelling at the TV is the venerable fount of wisdom. Therefore, it makes sense and is even somewhat pitiable that people from these communities would support Trump, as he espouses the same simpleton solutions to complex problems - and probably in the same babbling and incoherent manner - as their local patriarch. The "Daddy" moniker speaks volumes imo.
04-27-2017 , 04:27 PM
If your parents are authoritarian, it's just easier to relate to Trump. It's that simple. My way or the highway resonates with people no matter how stupid it is.
04-27-2017 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
idk ask mark burnett and vladimir putin
but what about that time I limped with AA and took down that big pot?
04-27-2017 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Namath12
but what about that time I limped with AA and took down that big pot?
Trump is for sure the guy who buys into 1/2 for $100. Is 90% VPIP and 0% pre-flop raise. He then gets in with aces in a 7-way pot with his $24 stack, loses then says "I'm so unlucky I never win even with aces" and blames all the awful players at his table as he storms out saying "I'm going to play higher limits where there are not all these donkies!"
04-27-2017 , 04:43 PM
His stack is one hundred $1 chips, yuge.
04-27-2017 , 04:48 PM
I'd like to see Spicy swallowed by a sand worm.
04-27-2017 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
Edit: Oh it turns out the government is saying that any lie, at any time, no matter how insignificant, is enough to de-naturalize a person.
I'm all for this. Imagine what fun it would be watching the FLOTUS be de-naturalized and deported back to Slovenia.
04-27-2017 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rtd353
Guess you didn't read far enough to see that 1/5 of them voted for Obama at least once. Maybe try running better candidates?
And they all have a totes BFF who is totes black.
04-27-2017 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
If that's true how did he create a successful tv show and win a nomination along with the electoral college?
Well, you had a good run.
04-27-2017 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 5ive
And they all have a totes BFF who is totes black.
The point of the post was that if you nominate a good candidate aka Obama voters will come out and vote for you and if you nominate a terrible candidate, they won't not whatever straw man you are trying to argue against. The fact that 6 months later the left is still saying "it's the VOTERS fault that we nominated a terrible candidate" is exactly what I would expect from the party of no personal responsibility.
04-27-2017 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
I think this was posted during the election, but Trump was a pain in the ass for the Apprentice people because he was untethered from reality.

"A grand editorial struggle on the show was to make the star’s decisions about which contestant was fired each episode look legitimate. The editors reported that when the boardroom was shot, the producers would offer their observations about who did well in the challenges and deserved to stay, and who was not pulling his or her weight and deserved to go. But invariably, Trump would ignore factual information and instead go with his gut.

“Trump would often make arbitrary decisions which had nothing to do with people’s merit,” confirmed another Season One editor who requested anonymity. “He’d make decisions based on whom he liked or disliked personally, whether it be for looks or lifestyle, or he’d keep someone that ‘would make good TV’ [according to Trump].”

Setting up story beats to justify the contestant that Trump ultimately fired required editorial gymnastics, according to the show’s editors. Manipulating footage to invent a story point that did not exist organically is common in reality TV editing, although with The Apprentice, it proved a tremendous feat.

“We’d often be shocked at whomever Trump chose to fire,” Braun explained. “Our first priority on every episode like that was to reverse-engineer the show to make it look like his judgment had some basis in reality. Sometimes it would be very hard to do, because the person he chose did nothing. We had to figure out how to edit the show to make it work, to show the people he chose to fire as looking bad — even if they had done a great job.”

Also, Trump was never good with facts and numbers, the editors said, and they needed to fix his mistakes.

“He would say things like, ‘We had a million applicants and we chose this small group to be contestants on the show,’” Braun recalled. “And I would turn to my producer and say, ‘A million applicants? Really?’ And the producer would shake his head no. Trump would just take numbers and throw them around. I mean, from Season One to Season Two, he said his net worth tripled. One day he said he had a billion dollars and then later it would become three billion; he just made stuff up.”

http://cinemontage.org/2016/10/editi...-be-president/
Just quoting this for a certain campfire...
04-27-2017 , 06:42 PM
Did anybody see the news clip of Trump's comments today on NAFTA and the phone calls with Canada and Mexico? Holy **** was it riddled with insecure lies and rhetoric to prop up his master negotiator image! Trudeau and Pena Nieto must be facepalming left and right.
04-27-2017 , 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Our House
Did anybody see the news clip of Trump's comments today on NAFTA and the phone calls with Canada and Mexico? Holy **** was it riddled with insecure lies and rhetoric to prop up his master negotiator image! Trudeau and Pena Nieto must be facepalming left and right.
probably excited they'll get whatever they want as long as they're ok with allowing trump to say he won.
04-27-2017 , 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
probably excited they'll get whatever they want as long as they're ok with allowing trump to say he won.
Yeah, he won alright.

"*I* was about to cancel NAFTA over the next 2-3 days (lol Sat or Sun), but they called me up to say 'No, please don't do it Mr. PresiDaddy' so *I* decided that we'll just have to negotiate it instead. But if *I* find out that isn't the best deal for the United States and JOBS, *I'll* cancel NAFTA anyway!" *beats chest*
04-27-2017 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DudeImBetter
Branding has always been done better by the right. We should take notes.
Problem is that despite what right-wing media says, there is no liberal media. Only the GOP has what's now state-run media. Democratic presidents don't get that. It's just another case of conservatives projecting their own weaknesses/villainy on others.

Unfortunately, the left in America don't want a propaganda network devoted to telling them everything they think is always correct. That's an exclusively right-wing thing. That stuff just doesn't do well to liberal audiences. See Air America.
04-27-2017 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by rtd353
The point of the post was that if you nominate a good candidate aka Obama voters will come out and vote for you and if you nominate a terrible candidate, they won't not whatever straw man you are trying to argue against. The fact that 6 months later the left is still saying "it's the VOTERS fault that we nominated a terrible candidate" is exactly what I would expect from the party of no personal responsibility.
See, the only problem with my Black BFF is that this one time he totes stole my GF who was totes from Canada.
04-27-2017 , 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by rtd353
The point of the post was that if you nominate a good candidate aka Obama voters will come out and vote for you and if you nominate a terrible candidate, they won't not whatever straw man you are trying to argue against. The fact that 6 months later the left is still saying "it's the VOTERS fault that we nominated a terrible candidate" is exactly what I would expect from the party of no personal responsibility.
I love how your argument is "We have such a ****ty president because of your side!" Bonus points for personal responsibility.

What about the personal responsibility of allowing Trump to win the GOP nomination?

Or do you just cherry pick your arguments like every other Trumpkin?
04-27-2017 , 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by campfirewest
If that's true how did he create a successful tv show and win a nomination along with the electoral college?
The former? A lot of stupid people with remotes.

The latter? The same stupid people using those remotes to turn on FoxNews.

      
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