Anyone else envisioning Isis furiously building stairs and ramps?

Don't worry man, in just a few short years the SMP forum will be colonizing mars.

Would be so funny if not so horrible.

It's not a service of process issue. Judge Donnelly communicated to the U.S. Attorney arguing for the government that she was to immediately communicate to CBP that a stay had been issued and to cease enforcing the portion the stay effected.

clinton lost the election because she wouldn't stand up to big money in politics.

also it's hard not to believe "racist hogwash" when a nazi is advising the president.

and trump may win in 2020, but it will only be because we let him 'make authoritarianism great again.'

the president angrily tweeting about starting WW3 makes me want to drink hard alcohol

Fun read on Trump being cray cray as determined by mental health professionals.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/poli...7688?cid=bitly

holy ****ing **** imgur sucks now

Yeah there's no question CBP employees and management are willfully violating a court order.

So that means Sat. night notice to head of CBP, legal counsel for CPB, and/or acting head CPB official at each airport with international flights. Under any scenario the logistics are not trivial. I'm pretty sure you can't demonstrate contempt without actual notice.

Interesting question is whether actual notice via means other than service is sufficient.

It may be that the situation is fairly confusing at the moment so it's difficult to report on, but it's disturbing that I'm seeing zero reporting in major outlets on the "government ignoring court order" aspect of what's happening right now, as it's easily one of the most important angles.

Service of process is a defense for not showing up to court. The order was announced on the record with the government's representative present, last night, 23 hours ago.

Sure, except that we are now almost 24 hours later and it's still being ignored. Also, you don't think the on-call US Attorney who handled this didn't have a way to escalate up and then back down the chain the ruling?

Trump just tweeted a link to this statement he posted on twitter:

People with the order in hand are being turned away. There's no defense here for the CBP employees who did this that I can see, but courts need to realize just how brazen this is and begin contempt proceedings immediately. This is rejection of the rule of law.

Some interesting info in the US section. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_court

Homeland security just announced they are going to ease up on green card travelers

They only going to beat them half as hard?

What happens if the courts send in the US Marshals?

I was serious about service of process argument, as there are often funky logistics. However, 12 hrs and lots of news coverage kills its plausibility. Can't see allowing more than 12 hrs or so for notice of an emergency stay.

Still some rando holding up pic of order on phone wouldn't normally constitute service. For one there's no proof of service by serving party that doc is genuine under penalty of perjury.

They won't.

I love how Donald Trump's personal FB and Twitter account have become one of the main sources for information from the White House. I like to think he is still the one that posts everything too.

Purely intentional, push as far as you can go, ease off slightly to look like you're reasonable despite being a tyrant, setup new normal. Come back in a few weeks or days or minutes with these people push it even further again. Rinse repeat. Do this over presidency = everybody but you and your followers dead.

You keep saying "service of process." I interpreted it to mean you were saying they just didn't konw about the order, but FLY is right, this is not a service of process issue, CBP was represented in court by the US attorney's office, there is no service of process to be made, all there was to do was for the US attorney to communicate the ruling to CBP and advise CBP to follow it.

this dissection of an extended interview nbc news did with trump's doctor is amazing imo. 100% that doctor did not compose that letter.

http://www.nbcnews.com/dateline/vide...h-754038339539

but aside from authorship, trump's REAL doctor, when asked pointedly on camera at 13:16, "do you think donald trump is healthy enough to be president?" he responds with "i think he's certainly PHYSICALLY healthy enough" (emphasis in original)

when later pressed on the amazingness of trump's health claims, he says, "we've had every kind of president.. people with dementia, and people with tumors.. we've had every famous president, we've had psychotic-- and paranoids, all in my own little lifetime. and we've had plenty of very disturbed people and they've fortunately been held in check"