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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

04-27-2017 , 01:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Jiggymike
From who?
Jared & Jared Banking Corp.
04-27-2017 , 02:09 AM
This is all just today's cliffs

Trump tax plan unveiled, spoiler alert lots of $ to super rich people and corporations.

Munchkin says trump won't reveal taxes and he's been transparent as anyone with a **** eating grin on his face.

in supreme court a DOJ lawyer argues citizenship should be able to revoked and people deported who didn't disclose irrelevant crap or long ass time ago traffic tickets, supreme court mostly rolls eyes.

VOICE gets launched to report any illegal alien crime (cough brown people cough) so they can check immigrant status--heroes jam the phone lines about space aliens.

trump backs off NAFTA repeal for a bit after because I presume canada + mexico told him he's a ****ing idiot.

BC blocks US coal after Trump's wood tariff

A bunch of people scheduled for hearings like flynn/kushner.

North Korea meeting @ White House with all senators. When this happened previously it was hey guys we're going to war. With trump it's hey guys here's a bunch of info and everyone in the room already knew.

New Trumpcare is worse than old trumpcare and they're gonna try to get that **** through on friday. Congress is excepted from the rules b/c lol you.

Trump signs EO allowing companies to mine in public parks--gg some national monuments.

Trump signs EO about education, I don't know what it does but let's face it, it's a complete disaster whatever it is. we all know the president didn't read it either.

Trump threatens getting rid of the 9th circuit court. Even though it was a district court that got rid of oh who cares at this point.

did I miss anything? Jesus christ.
04-27-2017 , 02:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
no paul manafort?! how can you explain that?
Flynn/kushner much easier to start out on with questions regarding the form they've got them on. Questions for Manafort gonna take work they've barely started on.
04-27-2017 , 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
This is all just today's cliffs

Trump tax plan unveiled, spoiler alert lots of $ to super rich people and corporations.

Munchkin says trump won't reveal taxes and he's been transparent as anyone with a **** eating grin on his face.

in supreme court a DOJ lawyer argues citizenship should be able to revoked and people deported who didn't disclose irrelevant crap or long ass time ago traffic tickets, supreme court mostly rolls eyes.

VOICE gets launched to report any illegal alien crime (cough brown people cough) so they can check immigrant status--heroes jam the phone lines about space aliens.

trump backs off NAFTA repeal for a bit after because I presume canada + mexico told him he's a ****ing idiot.

BC blocks US coal after Trump's wood tariff

A bunch of people scheduled for hearings like flynn/kushner.

North Korea meeting @ White House with all senators. When this happened previously it was hey guys we're going to war. With trump it's hey guys here's a bunch of info and everyone in the room already knew.

New Trumpcare is worse than old trumpcare and they're gonna try to get that **** through on friday. Congress is excepted from the rules b/c lol you.

Trump signs EO allowing companies to mine in public parks--gg some national monuments.

Trump signs EO about education, I don't know what it does but let's face it, it's a complete disaster whatever it is. we all know the president didn't read it either.

Trump threatens getting rid of the 9th circuit court. Even though it was a district court that got rid of oh who cares at this point.

did I miss anything? Jesus christ.
It's a good thing the 100 day benchmark is ridiculous and insignificant.
04-27-2017 , 02:42 AM
The tax "plan" is not so much an actual plan as a few bullet points written by morons.
04-27-2017 , 03:23 AM
04-27-2017 , 04:34 AM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
Trump threatens getting rid of the 9th circuit court. Even though it was a district court that got rid of oh who cares at this point.
I looked up the difference earlier when someone (probably you) brought this up. Did a few Google searches and came up with nothing. Can you or someone explain the difference to me like I'm a toddler?

Part of me wonders if he did gather people in the WH to start a war with NK but someone talked him off of that ledge so he went with random bull****.
04-27-2017 , 04:34 AM
Now watch all of the armchair deficit hawks roll along with this as if they weren't screaming bloody murder about it for the past 8 years.
04-27-2017 , 04:52 AM
isolated: As I understand it, district courts are lower and where trials and whatnot take place. Circuit courts are higher up the chain and basically handle appeals. Both are Federal. And then up top you have SCOTUS.

A district judge did piss Trump off, but on appeal it would be reviewed in the 9th. In any case the 9th isn't going anywhere anytime soon, so DJT can just stomp his feet and moan about it.
04-27-2017 , 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
i doubt Trump is good for anyone including big businesses.

theyre just feeding off hope that he'll rig the system for them after their bubble bursts.

i think.
FYP. Gotta save those jobs! Even at $1m per and even if it wont really save any jobs.
04-27-2017 , 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by microbet
I'm broke as a joke and pretty sure I'm not the only one here.
Sorry to hear that, I thought solar was treating you so well : (.
04-27-2017 , 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by RV Life
Trump having a coke button is the funniest goddamn thing ever.

You know he's totally bragging about it when he meets world leaders.

Merkel: OK, Mr. Trump, we need to talk about NATO.

Trump: Isn't it great being a world leader? It's fantastic! I love it! I have my own personal butler. He's great! Amazing! Watch this! (pushes red button) Want a coke Ang? I'll hit the button twice. He'll get it for you. You'll see. He's tremendous! He's the best butler and gives me the best coke. The best!

Merkel:.......
My favorite part about the AP interview, before I knew about the Coke button, was when Trump stopped mid-ramble and said, "Do you want a Coke or something?"

Now I'm picturing him asking that, then pausing to raise his eyebrows, tilt his head, and point to the button.
04-27-2017 , 08:16 AM
Deficit hawks will just drone on about super duper growth that will be unleashed once rich people finally catch a break in this country, complain the numbers are fake because where is the dynamic scoring, then thoughtlessly vote yes. We've seen this story before. People hoping otherwise are like me watching the 2006 Ohio State Michigan game thinking THIS TIME Shawn Crable won't go ******.
04-27-2017 , 08:23 AM
If you didn't read that interview transcript please do. He really knows nothing. Interviewer was clearly asking questions and Trump had to respond with a question to make sure he knew what they were even talking about. JFC

And then him talking about watching CNN off the record and then getting called on it two minutes later was gold. That entire exchange when he knew he got got is rough.

Last edited by DisGunBGud; 04-27-2017 at 08:31 AM.
04-27-2017 , 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by dlk9s
My favorite part about the AP interview, before I knew about the Coke button, was when Trump stopped mid-ramble and said, "Do you want a Coke or something?"
*sniff*
04-27-2017 , 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DisGunBGud
He really knows nothing.
"It's getting better and better and better. I think it's really good. People are saying they like it. It's going to be great." -- Trump introducing healthcare 2.0 the other day.

Really Mr. President? Which parts are the best?

"Blah blah blah electoral college victory..."
04-27-2017 , 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Riverman
Deficit hawks will just drone on about super duper growth that will be unleashed once rich people finally catch a break in this country, complain the numbers are fake because where is the dynamic scoring, then thoughtlessly vote yes. We've seen this story before. People hoping otherwise are like me watching the 2006 Ohio State Michigan game thinking THIS TIME Shawn Crable won't go ******.
so, as hoya pointed out to me in se, since this has to do with the budget and since it will clearly raise the deficit, it requires 60 votes in the senate which it wont get unless some dems defect (which I cant imagine they do).

so how will it pass? can they "go nuclear." am I wrong about the 60 votes? is there some way they can cook the books to make it seem like it doesnt raise the deficit?
04-27-2017 , 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MyrnaFTW
this will actually help lower middle income people, basically if you make 30k and under, you wont pay taxes. if you had a simplified 1040ez , you wont have a tax liability
Since when is making $27k putting you anywhere near "middle income"?
04-27-2017 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Victor
so, as hoya pointed out to me in se, since this has to do with the budget and since it will clearly raise the deficit, it requires 60 votes in the senate which it wont get unless some dems defect (which I cant imagine they do).

so how will it pass? can they "go nuclear." am I wrong about the 60 votes? is there some way they can cook the books to make it seem like it doesnt raise the deficit?
If it adds to the deficit it will sunset in 10 years like the Bush Tax Cuts did.

Sure, they could "go nuclear" but McConnell himself said that's not going to happen for legislation. I doubt they would be anywhere close to 50 votes for removing the legislation filibuster.
04-27-2017 , 09:01 AM
Gorka
http://reynolds.web.unc.edu/gorka/?u...ampaign=buffer
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Even Gorka’s attendance poses a mystery. When exactly was he a graduate student at the university? Did he take classes? Did he receive any training in Islam or Islamic studies? His CV notes that he left Hungary in 2004 to work for the US Defense Department in Germany and then in 2008 relocated to the US. There is no evidence that he ever returned to live and study in Budapest.

The dissertation is online and includes the ‘evaluations’ of three referees who each presented a page of generalized comments – completely at odds with the detailed substantive and methodological evaluations that I’ve seen at every Ph.D defence I’ve been on over the last twenty years.

Two of the three referees did not even have a Ph.D. One was the US Defense Attaché at the American Embassy in Budapest at the time, while the other was employed at the UK’s Defence Academy and just had a BA from Manchester University awarded in 1969. This ‘neutral’ examiner had published a book in Hungary with Gorka three years previously. While graduate students sometimes collaborate with their advisors the independent external examiners must have no nepotistic ties with the candidate. More important, a basic principle of assessing educational achievement is that your examiners have at least the degree level of the degree they are awarding. Undergraduates do not award Ph.Ds. In Gorka’s case the only examiner who lists a doctorate was György Schöpflin – an extreme right wing Hungarian Member of the European Parliament who recently advocated putting pigs heads on a fence on the Hungarian border to keep out Muslims. I have been told that Schöpflin was a family friend. Both Schöpflin and Gorka’s father fled from Budapest to London in the 1950s and both moved in exile right-wing nationalist circles.

If that is true, we are left in sum with a degree that was awarded in absence – on the basis of a dissertation without basic political science methodological underpinnings – and apparently from an examining committee of two of Gorka’s diplomat friends, with only BA degrees; along with an old family friend, Schöpflin.

In sum, Gorka’s Ph.D is about as legitimate as if he had been awarded it by Trump University. Facts matter, but so does the gathering, synthesizing and creation of knowledge that is what we call ‘education.’ If you fake a Ph.D you are faking your credentials. He delivers provable untruths to the American public but is believed by many because he presents himself as an esteemed scholar of Islam. Gorka would never have got away with such hutzpah in the UK. Experience and scholarship work in harness to produce answers to questions. When you have neither experience nor training you are likely to not merely get the answers wrong, but not even have an inkling of which questions to ask.
04-27-2017 , 09:09 AM
Where's BS to defend that guy?

Seems that Gorka's doctorate is as legit as David Duke's
04-27-2017 , 09:21 AM
sushy is contained with the rest of the deplorables
04-27-2017 , 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by einbert
hes a charlatan. just like the guy said in the taped phone call.

but hes really no different than almost everyone else in the administration. woefully unprepared and unqualified for their jobs. I mean, look at trump, ivanka, kushner, bannon, devos, pruitt, carson.
04-27-2017 , 09:25 AM
https://twitter.com/ABCPolitics/stat...83338399322112

Ruh roh. Another campaign promise in jeopardy.
04-27-2017 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by awval999
If it adds to the deficit it will sunset in 10 years like the Bush Tax Cuts did.

Sure, they could "go nuclear" but McConnell himself said that's not going to happen for legislation. I doubt they would be anywhere close to 50 votes for removing the legislation filibuster.
I dont know what you mean by "sunset in 10 years."

will this tax bill pass?

      
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