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04-26-2017 , 10:31 AM

#27976

ChrisV

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I honestly don't know who I would bet on in a Trump v Palin IQ test showdown. I think Palin? Trump has more cunning, but I think he would lose interest and start drawing boobs on the test paper.

04-26-2017 , 10:41 AM

#27977

champstark

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisV

I honestly don't know who I would bet on in a Trump v Palin IQ test showdown. I think Palin? Trump has more cunning, but I think he would lose interest and start drawing boobs on the test paper.

Trump by a mile and it pains me to say that. He's horrible at articulating things, but I think he is actually more intelligent than she is, in terms of critical thinking ability.

The thing about how Trump talks--he doesn't give a ****. He just spews whatever comes into his brain out of his mouth. He knows it doesn't really matter.

04-26-2017 , 10:42 AM

#27978

dinopoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by otatop

Pivoting requires thought, he prefers to just say whatever the **** pops into his head.

Yeah but he's President, and you're not.

04-26-2017 , 10:53 AM

#27979

dinopoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

More on Obamacare. Here's an analysis by Brookings.

http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2016/0...han-you-think/

and one more link for good measure.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-f...nap-story.html

You don't need analysis. The simple fact that people like Trump and Ryan oppose the ACA is enough to tell you its working.

04-26-2017 , 10:54 AM

#27980

TheHip41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by walkby

I haven't been active in this thread but I have a question for anyone who wants to give their opinion. Do you think there's any likelihood that Trump becomes savvy enough to accomplish anything positive or productive as POTUS? He's going to be put in a lot of different situations, do you think he could ever find the right chord and start doing things that undeniably benefit the USA? (Also I apologize for my naivety)

no

don't normalize this chump

04-26-2017 , 11:02 AM

#27981

dinopoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by walkby

If it's a problem involving the military then he'll do well, because generals and admirals and other people who are experts on military actions are people he respects.

But, if it's a problem of economics or domestic or foreign policy he'll likely do very poorly, because even though economists, scientists, and diplomats are people equally as knowledgeable about their areas of expertise as the military experts are on theirs, Trump would never afford them the same level of respect, because reasons.

Of course that's not just a failing of him alone, it mostly seems that way with pretty much the entire GOP.

04-26-2017 , 11:04 AM

#27982

TheHip41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mendicant loafer

Hot take

Sarah Palin is smarter than Donald Trump

04-26-2017 , 11:08 AM

#27983

Clovis8

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHip41

Hot take

Sarah Palin is smarter than Donald Trump

Not a hot take, a fact.

04-26-2017 , 11:10 AM

#27984

well named

poorly undertitled

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

I assume his 80% figure is a lie?

Not exactly, but it's misleading. The statistic is not that 80% of all cases heard in the 9th circuit are overturned, it's that 80% of 9th circuit cases that go to the Supreme Court are overturned, which is less than 1% of all 9th circuit cases.

The rate for the 9th circuit is higher than average for all circuits over recent years, but since the S.C. only hears relatively few cases the number seems fairly volatile. Politifact has data for each circuit.

04-26-2017 , 11:11 AM

#27985

TheHip41

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just re reading that quote.

seriously how ****ing dumb is this guy. he cant even complete a sentence.

i'm to the point that if you voted for Trump you are dead to me

04-26-2017 , 11:20 AM

#27986

kerowo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AllTheCheese

I assume his 80% figure is a lie?

No, just misleading, the average court gets like >50% of their cases sent to the SC overturned.

Last edited by kerowo; 04-26-2017 at 11:21 AM. Reason: Pony was overturned

04-26-2017 , 11:28 AM

#27987

otatop

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How weird, it's almost as if the Justices only hear cases they might overturn or something.

04-26-2017 , 11:30 AM

#27988

thethethe

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SCOTUS heard 0.151% of Ninth Circuit appeals from 2000-2010.

04-26-2017 , 11:32 AM

#27989

poconoder

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Quote:

Originally Posted by walkby

Trump has a learning curve and many of us spectators did not accept his way of doing things in the beginning. This made for an ugly first two months. But you can already see he is getting better at this, and us spectators are figuring out his way of doing things. I think we have a possibility of a delayed honeymoon this summer as many start to appreciatee the good points of his presidential actions so far.

04-26-2017 , 11:33 AM

#27990

TheHip41

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Originally Posted by thethethe

SCOTUS heard 0.151% of Ninth Circuit appeals from 2000-2010.

They overturned those cases 80% of the time though

failing 9th circuit

04-26-2017 , 11:34 AM

#27991

ASAP17

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The hypocrisy of all these executive orders... Hilarious how Conway/Spicer are spinning them as some amazing 100 days accomplishments. They mean very little, mostly fluff.

04-26-2017 , 11:37 AM

#27992

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Quote:

Originally Posted by well named

Not exactly, but it's misleading.

Everything Trump says is misleading at best, and utterly dishonest at worst. Even when he has the perfect opportunity to tell the whole truth, he likes to add some kind of embellishment. He also has a terrible habit of trying to manufacture truth and alter history. He constantly needs to be kept in check, otherwise he will, unfortunately, succeed.

Trump isn't an idiot, but is often ignorant on many subjects and often says idiotic things.

04-26-2017 , 11:39 AM

#27993

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Originally Posted by ASAP17

The hypocrisy of all these executive orders... Hilarious how Conway/Spicer are spinning them as some amazing 100 days accomplishments. They mean very little, mostly fluff.

Not to mention how this is yet another major criticism he had of Obama.

EDIT: Or is that what you meant by hypocrisy?

04-26-2017 , 12:22 PM

#27994

RV Life

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Quote:

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Extinguish 100k lives in a few days like we did in Iraq I. Yippee cayee MFer!

Yea in retrospect, it's not a good idea. LOL.

04-26-2017 , 12:26 PM

#27995

kerowo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poconoder

What do you think he has done "better at" recently? What do you think are the successes of this administration?

04-26-2017 , 12:34 PM

#27996

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poconoder

LOL wat?

What is Trump doing that makes you think he's getting better? If anything, he's becoming more unhinged.

04-26-2017 , 12:34 PM

#27997

FlyWf

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHip41

They overturned those cases 80% of the time though

failing 9th circuit

The whole comment is nonsense, though.

First off, it's a district court in the 9th circuit, not the 9th's appellate court(which is what people mean when they talk about the 9th).

Secondly, while VENUE shopping is a thing, that's where you can sue someone many places and pick the best place to do it. You don't get to pick your judge.

And in the case, the plaintiff here was the city of San Francisco. Where else were they supposed to sue him?

04-26-2017 , 12:37 PM

#27998

Trolly McTrollson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

The thing about how Trump talks--he doesn't give a ****. He just spews whatever comes into his brain out of his mouth. He knows it doesn't really matter.

This sounds like the kind of thing morons do?