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04-25-2017 , 08:15 PM

#27901

ScreaminAsian

For President

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 33,333

Quote:

Originally Posted by prana

http://time.com/4755069/ivanka-trump...g-iii-apparel/

trump would ABSOLUTELY bring those factories back to america, it'd be so so easy. just eliminate all worker protections and the minimum wage. ****ing problem solved

04-25-2017 , 08:19 PM

#27902

wheatrich

Carpal \'Tunnel

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This trump could cure cancer and blah blah blah is arguably the stupidest thing I've ever read.

04-25-2017 , 08:19 PM

#27903

superleeds

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,180

Quote:

Originally Posted by otatop

Pivoting requires thought, he prefers to just say whatever the **** pops into his head.

Yeah this. People still think there was ever some kind of plan? There never was and never will be. That ****s work.

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04-25-2017 , 08:22 PM

#27904

superleeds

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,180

Quote:

Originally Posted by uke_master

ATC: you sound like a late grad student, is that right? Which university? That's pretty cool. I have heard of the horn problem in this context, yes I think we share quite a bit, I've studied a lot of hamiltonian systems (or more precisely quasi-hamiltonian systems which have moment maps that takes values in the Lie group instead).

Yeah the answers 6.43 guys. Can we move on now?

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04-25-2017 , 08:25 PM

#27905

kerowo

lolcat

Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 37,190

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperUberBob

He actually did pivot a bit. He went back on his views on NATO. He stated that he no longer views Russians as his friends. Plus he stopped calling China a currency manipulator. It's just that these things were positions that weren't quite as important to Trump supporters as things like oppressing brown people and hating Obama.

I'm not sure if pivoting harder would result in an approval rating that high. Sure there'd be some bump. The NeverTrumpers would probably jump on board. But other than that, everybody's view on him is pretty much set in stone. Just as he could eat a baby at a rally and not lose supporters, he could cure cancer and not gain any liberal supporters either. I really can't think of a more polarizing figure in American politics. It's either unadulterated hate or extreme adoration when it come to Trump.

That's not him pivoting, that's him failing.

04-25-2017 , 08:27 PM

#27906

stinkubus

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4,422

The reversal on China is definitely a pivot. I had the understanding the administration would've been able to act on tariffs on Chinese goods without congressional approval.

04-25-2017 , 08:28 PM

#27907

RV Life

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 1,935

The China thing is not a pivot. It's getting trademarks approved to benefit his brand.

04-25-2017 , 08:46 PM

#27908

OmgGlutten!

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,273

Trump has been pivoting towards whatever people tell him to pivot towards. During the election, he was getting his views from conspiracy tabloids, drudge and cable tv. Now his opinions are based on whomever spoke to him most recently, thus he is pivoting towards many mainstream GOP positions and there is a very strong chance that we end up in another ground war.

04-25-2017 , 08:50 PM

#27909

Huehuecoyotl

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Bad news for Kansas

Quote:

In 2012, Kansas undertook a large-scale tax reform that excluded certain forms of business income from individual taxation. In theory, these changes enhance the incentives to undertake more real economic activity such as new business formation or increases in employment or investment. But, the reform also shifted the incentives to avoid taxation by recharacterizing income sources. This paper provides evidence of these effects using federal administrative taxpayer data. Drawing on these data from 2010 to 2014, we find evidence suggesting that, at both extensive and intensive margins, the behavioral responses were overwhelmingly tax avoidance rather than real supply side responses.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=2958353

04-25-2017 , 08:57 PM

#27910

OmgGlutten!

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,273

The key to economic success is tax cuts for the super wealthy. End of story.

04-25-2017 , 09:05 PM

#27911

stinkubus

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4,422

The only non-negotiable GOP position.

04-25-2017 , 09:18 PM

#27912

RV Life

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 1,935

So Kacish told people in New Hampshire they have to "Get over it" when it comes to Social Security cuts.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/09/politi...cial-security/

I depend on SSDI when I am not working full time. It's not a lot. It lets me pay the rent and eat basically. So I emailed Kacish and pretty much told him to **** off nicely lol.

As a 41 year old Deaf man, I depend on my Social Security. Even though I have a college education, it can be hard at times to find employment due to my hearing loss. Your comments today telling me to "Get over it" with regards to cuts to Social Security are both ignorant and offensive. You clearly demonstrate a lack of understanding when it comes to life circumstances that many Americans face. You should be both ashamed and embarrassed.

04-25-2017 , 09:36 PM

#27913

OmgGlutten!

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,273

Kacish is just another creep. I hate the way the media normalizes these clowns.

04-25-2017 , 09:37 PM

#27914

Our House

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Trudeau and Trump spoke about the trade stuff from today. Guess what happened?

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/statu...29846949662720

04-25-2017 , 09:40 PM

#27915

wheatrich

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Kasich is right on entitlements, they've gone way too far but to cut waste and fraud you're gonna hit on some legit guy. Especially SSDI. Especially in Alabama.

Ofc, it's not in the top 100 of things to get mad about in that category, and it's always republicans numero uno to go after but it is a problem.

Anyway, trump called canada, canada's release explains everything they discussed in decent detail, trump WH release was 2 sentences, aka they talked about stuff, the end.

Kasich was decent on the daily show but it doesn't take much these days, Obama meanwhile is just taking $ from bankers. **** him.

04-25-2017 , 09:41 PM

#27916

OmgGlutten!

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Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,273

lol look at Trumps last tweet. the only moron at the table with their glass not on a coaster. And looks like he is the only person drinking soda.

"Get me a coke and make sure everyone else has water".

04-25-2017 , 09:44 PM

#27917

OmgGlutten!

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,273

what is 22 and 31.5 stats for? citation?

04-25-2017 , 10:34 PM

#27918

fatkid

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Quote:

The Constitution vests the spending powers in Congress, not the President, so the Order cannot constitutionally place new conditions on federal funds. Further, the Tenth Amendment requires that conditions on federal funds be unambiguous and timely made; that they bear some relation to the funds at issue; and that the total financial incentive not be coercive. Federal funding that bears no meaningful relationship to immigration enforcement cannot be threatened merely because a jurisdiction chooses an immigration enforcement strategy of which the President disapproves.

I'm no law genius but this seems like some basic **** right here.

04-25-2017 , 10:35 PM

#27919

PocketChads

guaranteed 42-10 finish

Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 22,476

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheatrich

Can you show me numbers about how it's gone too far

Numbers about fraud percentages

And a definition of what you consider to be entitlements, and like a pie graph of how much various programs make up this monolith called entitlements

04-25-2017 , 10:39 PM

#27920

stinkubus

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4,422

I'm sure you already know he won't have any.

04-25-2017 , 10:45 PM

#27921

DisGunBGud

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OmgGlutten!

The coaster thing is something small but when you consider all the layers it adds up to a man with absolutely zero class

04-25-2017 , 10:54 PM

#27922

OmgGlutten!

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,273

So if Trump actually gets his huge corporate tax cut that runs up the deficit, are Republicans still able to be "fiscal conservatives" and does the media still play along with it while never calling them on their complete bull****?

04-25-2017 , 10:57 PM

#27923

OmgGlutten!

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2016 Posts: 5,273

Rand Paul writing a terrible op ed for Breitbart

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...men-cut-taxes/

04-25-2017 , 10:58 PM

#27924

sylar

Ivan Drago's homeslice

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 20,307

US just lost against Mexico.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/25/news...una/index.html

Quote:

The US just lost a trade battle with Mexico. It's the first loss of the Trump era.

So much winning.

04-25-2017 , 11:01 PM

#27925

stinkubus

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 4,422

LOL at the media calling them out on it. Their masters would all be beneficiaries. "Fiscal conservatism" isn't something anyone has practiced in governance in our life times, it's just a talking point for rubes and misanthropes to justify terrible policies.

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